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Stop Loss is not a financial loss

  • #21
  • Nov 24, 2022 8:48am Nov 24, 2022 8:48am
Quoting Nefser
{quote} You're wrong. It is a direct reduction of your capital, which money you have put into your account. Don't trade what you can't afford (financially, emotionally, mentally) to lose. It sounds like you can't "afford" some of those things, potentially because you expect to be...'smarter' than the market? Than other traders? That your trades are going to work out where others don't?
No, I'm not wrong!
the issue is something else
I have come up with the idea that stoploss is not actually a financial loss!
rather, it is more of a mental blow!
The financial aspect is not important to me at all
  • #22
  • Nov 24, 2022 8:51am Nov 24, 2022 8:51am
Quoting Nefser
{quote} Well, then perhaps you should go see someone about your emotional state related to trading. Does this relate too other things in your life...playing cards with your friends, playing solitaire on your own? Do you have to "win" and if you don't win, you go and sulk about it for hours/days? You seem to be locked in to the idea that trades 'matter'. They don't matter. No one puts on 'good' trades, they only put on trades that happen to 'work out'. No one puts on bad trades (unless they are actually, really not thinking about the market), they...
I wrote at the beginning of this topic
You should not run away from stop loss to make profit
You have to compromise with it
  • #23
  • Nov 29, 2022 6:01am Nov 29, 2022 6:01am
A stop-loss order is an order placed with a broker to buy or sell a specific stock once the stock reaches a certain price
  • #24
  • Nov 30, 2022 1:28am Nov 30, 2022 1:28am
Quoting Eelse16
A stop-loss order is an order placed with a broker to buy or sell a specific stock once the stock reaches a certain price
Your answer has nothing to do with the topic!
  • #25
  • Mar 10, 2026 3:26am Mar 10, 2026 3:26am
Quoting s.everest
Hi In this post, I want to examine Stop Loss psychologically. i think Stop Loss is not a financial loss! Stop Loss is a blow to your ideas and confidence! It is a mental and psychological issue rather than a financial and material... I think the way to make a profit in the financial markets is not to never stop. But compromise with it! Stop Loss is our friend! If your soul enjoys Stop Loss, you can make profit from the market, and it does not matter what method you use. Most traders are looking for dream trading systems that will never stop....
Nah it's not that serious, stop-loss is part of any strategy, same as take-profit. If you don't take it personal, then you are going to be alright.
  • #26
  • Mar 10, 2026 10:09am Mar 10, 2026 10:09am
Mental blow?
It may be. That is ,if your strategy is bullet proof, and stopping your loss causes mental blow and question if your strategy is valid.
But, realistically, any entry has a 50/50 profit /loss chance , so, we should expect stopping our loses at times.
In any case, do not stop you losses if causes something. After all, is a matter of time and money. You entry will be a winner if you wait long enough, and have the money to hold your position. May be years, but soon or later the price comes around.

I use one strategy that does not use stop losses. Is a price following strategy, so, I may have long and shorts open most of the time- soon or later capital increases.
  • #27
  • Mar 10, 2026 1:46pm Mar 10, 2026 1:46pm
Quoting jeuro2.0
Mental blow? It may be. That is ,if your strategy is bullet proof, and stopping your loss causes mental blow and question if your strategy is valid. But, realistically, any entry has a 50/50 profit /loss chance , so, we should expect stopping our loses at times. In any case, do not stop you losses if causes something. After all, is a matter of time and money. You entry will be a winner if you wait long enough, and have the money to hold your position. May be years, but soon or later the price comes around. I use one strategy that does not use stop...
You must be a newbie to trading or have massive deep pockets.
As someone who was trading live during 9-11, I know for a fact ANYTHING can happen at any stage.
So no stoploss = only a matter of time before BOOM !!!
Im only here for the Guzzoline...
  • #28
  • Mar 10, 2026 3:06pm Mar 10, 2026 3:06pm
No stop, but hedge
No deep pockets. I wish.
I was not trading yet for 9-11. I started around 2005.
I agree with you. Any time, anything can happens. So, we pray for not to be with open positions on those times.
I did pass the Black Swan event in 2015. I made money, but never collected as Alpari UK went bankrupt. So, after many months I did recover only my deposit Via FSA.

But in any case, in events like that, absolutely no one fill orders. so, stop loss are ignore, margin call are ignore. hedges are ignore. All are filled at the top/bottom of the spike. (cleverly, Brokers , after all is settle in events like that, they show that respected you TP in spite the price went in you favor and xtra 100 pips)
  • #29
  • Mar 11, 2026 12:23am Mar 11, 2026 12:23am
Quoting jeuro2.0
Mental blow? It may be. That is ,if your strategy is bullet proof, and stopping your loss causes mental blow and question if your strategy is valid. But, realistically, any entry has a 50/50 profit /loss chance , so, we should expect stopping our loses at times. In any case, do not stop you losses if causes something. After all, is a matter of time and money. You entry will be a winner if you wait long enough, and have the money to hold your position. May be years, but soon or later the price comes around. I use one strategy that does not use stop...
I can sense your confidence in the text, but that wait long enough approach is a dangerous myth in trading, let's be real. While it works for non leveraged spot assets like Bitcoin or blue chip stocks, it is a guaranteed account blow up in forex, metals, futures, or crypto futures. Leverage and funding fees will liquidate you long before the price comes around lmao. A;so 50 / 50 chance doesn’t mean you can ignore risk, it means you need strict loss management to survive the losing streaks so you’re still in the game when the winners hit. Trading without stops isn’t a strategy, it’s just gambling pretending you are trading. Real longevity comes from protecting capital first, not hoping for a reversal.
  • #30
  • Last Post: Mar 12, 2026 5:32am Mar 12, 2026 5:32am
Hi Brdert. I am not advocating the "wait long enough approach" But It is not a myth, is a reality if approached as other assets . But obviously it is dangerous game if trading with high leverage.
For "certain" strategies Hedging is better the SL. Personal opinion but not for all strategies. The subject of SL vs Hedge is eternal , cost double spreads etc.
But we must think in the type of events you mentioned. I a weekend I rather go to sleep totally hedge than with a SL. Say, crap happens before having liquidity on Monday. Market quotes are 500 pips above/below the end of the week. Your loss, 500 extra pips (no price at yours SL). Hedge position no extra loss/gain. Which case sound like gambling?

But digressing from the topic. Stopping a loss "is" a financial loss. Stopping a profit "is" a financial profit. Both are final when executed.
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