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  • #10,081
  • Jun 5, 2022 11:18am Jun 5, 2022 11:18am
A new addition. Worst closed trade in every pair. Its plotted on chart too. Mainly for fast check rules bad mistakes and try fixed them
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  • #10,082
  • Jun 6, 2022 2:33pm Jun 6, 2022 2:33pm
With 3 dynamic parameters. Profit jump is big ( 21k with 1 parameter ). Only difference between both captures is one havent AI enabled ( lower profit )
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  • #10,083
  • Jun 6, 2022 2:49pm Jun 6, 2022 2:49pm
humble and honest advice
when/if you overfit in history then it might most probably fail in the future
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  • #10,084
  • Jun 6, 2022 2:59pm Jun 6, 2022 2:59pm
Quoting mr.brown
humble and honest advice when/if you overfit in history then it might most probably fail in the future
I know past not guarantee future. Its main reason i have some extra report info for try guess if it will be reliable in long term. Anyway this kind of reports are more headed for help to improve rules in coding stage. But still it can give an idea how can performs system ( if its red then its clear it will be a disaster, if its green its a hope )

If you compare reports i uploaded last weeks you can see DD decreased a lot. That means system risk is lower now. Still not don't guarantee anything but improvement and higher success chances are there. Its not a blind test as real time tests...
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  • #10,085
  • Jun 7, 2022 6:42am Jun 7, 2022 6:42am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} I know past not guarantee future. Its main reason i have some extra report info for try guess if it will be reliable in long term. Anyway this kind of reports are more headed for help to improve rules in coding stage. But still it can give an idea how can performs system ( if its red then its clear it will be a disaster, if its green its a hope ) If you compare reports i uploaded last weeks you can see DD decreased a lot. That means system risk is lower now. Still not don't guarantee anything but improvement and higher success chances are...
Hi brother where i can get complete set of files .
  • #10,086
  • Jun 7, 2022 11:14am Jun 7, 2022 11:14am
Quoting mr.brown
humble and honest advice when/if you overfit in history then it might most probably fail in the future
A couple things I forgot comment about history backtest.

1) From system perspective, backtest is future since system runs as should do in real time. System dont know next candle and if make a performance in a date range, then it should be same if it was running in real market ( ignoring swap/spread/slippage differences ).

2) At least in my case, backtest AI for get optimal parameters is not tricky as search parameters giving the best profit. Now its simple but it uses some collected data for decide what parameters it will be more consistent along time. Many times parameters are not best pips maker. Take other values in consideration.
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  • #10,087
  • Jun 7, 2022 11:21am Jun 7, 2022 11:21am
Now i have TE slightly messed due to builds changes and broker symbols names changed. This is "clean" run with last stable build and new symbols names ( 21k performance build )

While I dont change build overall is always green ( as backtest reports ). When i change build things start to be ugly with old trades since new build cycle is very different and cant manage old trades as expected

Max DD it was less -200p. Not so high for a cold start
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  • #10,088
  • Jun 7, 2022 11:40am Jun 7, 2022 11:40am
Quoting braintheboss
Now i have TE slightly messed due to builds changes and broker symbols names changed. This is "clean" run with last stable build and new symbols names ( 21k performance build ) While I dont change build overall is always green ( as backtest reports ). When i change build things start to be ugly with old trades since new build cycle is very different and cant manage old trades as expected Max DD it was less -200p. Not so high for a cold start {image}
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  • #10,089
  • Jun 7, 2022 11:43am Jun 7, 2022 11:43am
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} A couple things I forgot comment about history backtest. 1) From system perspective, backtest is future since system runs as should do in real time. System dont know next candle and if make a performance in a date range, then it should be same if it was running in real market ( ignoring swap/spread/slippage differences ). 2) At least in my case, backtest AI for get optimal parameters is not tricky as search parameters giving the best profit. Now its simple but it uses some collected data for decide what parameters it will be more consistent...
backtest is essential. no dubt. just sayin, overfitted curves fails on the forward tests
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  • #10,090
  • Jun 7, 2022 11:47am Jun 7, 2022 11:47am
Quoting mr.brown
{quote} backtest is essential. no dubt. just sayin, overfitted curves fails on the forward tests
My question is why you think mine is overfitted. All opinions are welcome
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  • #10,091
  • Jun 7, 2022 2:42pm Jun 7, 2022 2:42pm
Quoting braintheboss
{quote} My question is why you think mine is overfitted. All opinions are welcome
I am not. however while you fix every error, its getting overfitted.
I have coded too many lines, probably close to million. while you are making your system you are overfitting due you are working with history data.
how much you fix, that much you overfit. there is a line that should not be passed.

here is the metric; how much you make profit with history data that much it fails with forward test
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  • #10,092
  • Jun 7, 2022 3:06pm Jun 7, 2022 3:06pm
Quoting mr.brown
{quote} I am not. however while you fix every error, its getting overfitted. I have coded too many lines, probably close to million. while you are making your system you are overfitting due you are working with history data. how much you fix, that much you overfit. there is a line that should not be passed. here is the metric; how much you make profit with history data that much it fails with forward test
I understand your point
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  • #10,093
  • Jun 9, 2022 2:25pm Jun 9, 2022 2:25pm
New build finished ( v0.17 +38K pips ). Prev build was around 21K pips with higher DD

I have been add a parameters cache because as MT4 is single thread it needs 30m for process all parameters. I added parameters info in every pair in reports too

I will use tomorrow in TE account
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  • #10,094
  • Edited Jun 10, 2022 1:33am Jun 9, 2022 2:55pm | Edited Jun 10, 2022 1:33am
Some interesting things...

How parameters affects. Both have AI disabled ( only uses dynamic parameters ). First its using full system parameters ( as is cached process time is zero ). Second is same but searching best parameters. Performance go from 26k to 35k with better DD.

Black boxes shows pair differences when you apply optimal parameters.

AI is quite heavier ( 660 vs 1855 ). Its almost 3 times slower when its enabled.

PS: Parameters are stable in long term. Then while you dont change rules behaviour it can do long runs without decrease performance
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  • #10,095
  • Jun 9, 2022 5:49pm Jun 9, 2022 5:49pm
Quoting braintheboss
New build finished ( v0.17 +38K pips ). Prev build was around 21K pips with higher DD I have been add a parameters cache because as MT4 is single thread it needs 30m for process all parameters. I added parameters info in every pair in reports too I will use tomorrow in TE account {image}
I was just curious if you planned on sharing your ea and preset after you are finished with optimization?
  • #10,096
  • Jun 9, 2022 11:23pm Jun 9, 2022 11:23pm
Quoting bojack34
{quote} I was just curious if you planned on sharing your ea and preset after you are finished with optimization?
Only reports tool with all necessary for can read pins history data. Its enough for can build any profitable system since you can avoid real time tests. Its people responsability how they will use it
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  • #10,097
  • Edited 2:12pm Jun 11, 2022 1:59pm | Edited 2:12pm
MT4 multithread backtest

v0.18 -> 553s vs 4800s ( single thread ). v0.18 it have more dynamic parameters then its quite slower than prev ( 1800s )

Short story. In single thread you need 80m. In multithread only 9m

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  • #10,098
  • Dec 7, 2022 6:49am Dec 7, 2022 6:49am
Quoting dingdong99
{quote} yes, i agree Brain.. brilliant strategy not necessarily get a good profit without good money management. that i also test for some money management with consider how much balance need. {image} look have good build for u, brain. on there can test many pair in mt4. and can see the result like that.
hello
Dingdong
please provide auto set file , i m using now manual but need some auto set files
  • #10,099
  • Jan 18, 2023 1:00pm Jan 18, 2023 1:00pm
My last toy. Trader Explorer...
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  • #10,100
  • Edited 2:52pm Jan 25, 2023 2:28pm | Edited 2:52pm
Porting Trader Explorer to HTML. I send data from MT4
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