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  • #21
  • Apr 11, 2022 11:09pm Apr 11, 2022 11:09pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} If we pay a subscription can we turn off the adverts?
Do you want FF to be deprived of advt revenue from brokers,? How would they afford to provide freebies? How many of demo and hobby traders will remain as subscribers? How many chitter-chatters will pay money to massage their egos? How many cock fighters will stay put by paying money?
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #22
  • Apr 11, 2022 11:15pm Apr 11, 2022 11:15pm
Quoting simnz
{quote} Do you want FF to be deprived of advt revenue from brokers,? How many of deno and hobby traders will remain as subscribers? How many chitter-chatters will pay money to massage their egos? How many cock fighters will stay put by paying monry?
@simnz -- I think he was referring to **your** advertisement...

@simnz -- how many times have you posted the same advert on different threads?
  • #23
  • Apr 11, 2022 11:20pm Apr 11, 2022 11:20pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @simnz -- I think he was referring to **your** advertisement... @simnz -- how many times have you posted the same advert on different threads?
FF management encourages noble ventures. Not the upseller types who post exe files.
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  • #24
  • Apr 11, 2022 11:29pm Apr 11, 2022 11:29pm
Quoting simnz
{quote} FF management encourages noble ventures. Not the upseller types who post exe files.
Oh, really? And where exactly does FF management say they encourage this. Also, who gets to define what is / isn't a noble venture? For example, I think all my ventures are noble, though there are some who might disagree. Have you been designated the determiner of noble ventures? Just wondering...
  • #25
  • Apr 12, 2022 3:39am Apr 12, 2022 3:39am
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} A nice article you wrote. I agree emotions can be very useful in trading and they can also be devastating to our trading. A double edged sword they are. Now when someone is saying they trade emotionless....well that is impossible...the correct term is more like emotionally controlled. As I stated above emotions are actually a biological function like breathing...you cant stop breathing can you? Therefore its utterly impossible to be emotionless.. Unless you are truly a psychopath..which i doubt... Some of us have our emotions dulled and...
'but growth in your account require growth in your personal self.. and your personal growth always has to come first..'

Ahh yes agree with this, growing an account and the subsequent increase in trade size is another milestone, and requires work on personal beliefs. I have tried tricking myself e.g. opening multiple smaller trades, but ultimately it's all about personal growth, like you said.
  • #26
  • Edited Apr 13, 2022 3:26am Apr 12, 2022 11:29pm | Edited Apr 13, 2022 3:26am
Quoting robots4me
{quote} Oh, really? And where exactly does FF management say they encourage this. Also, who gets to define what is / isn't a noble venture? For example, I think all my ventures are noble, though there are some who might disagree. Have you been designated the determiner of noble ventures? Just wondering...
I am a spectator of slanging matches between Ff ghosts whose reason for the existence on FF is doing just that.

All gossiping ghosts want is : free space, access to guinea pigs free of cost, (without having to share source codes of their indicators or EAs), constant cock-fighting, trolling and trying to drive out genuine forum contributors.

Interesting to note is all of them share a common Guru, George.

Some of them have excellent chart drawing and hindsight trading capabilities. They provide good copy which boosts their ego.
Some of them take the likes given to their posts seriously. Even ghosts want ratings that will not help them when they shed anonymity.

Life is never dull at FF.

Cheers.
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #27
  • Apr 12, 2022 11:35pm Apr 12, 2022 11:35pm
Quoting simnz
{quote} I am a spectator of slanging matches between Ff ghosts whose reason for the existence on FF is just that. All gossiping ghosts want is : free space, access to guinea pigs free of cost, (without having having to share source codes of their indicators or EAs), constant cock-fighting, trolling and trying to drive out genuine forum contributors. Interesting to note is all of them share a common Guru, George. Some of them have excellent chart drawing and hindsight trading capabilities. They provide good copy which boosts their ego. Some of them...
Hey @simnz -- are you warming things up for another advert? Let's see -- I think I almost have it memorized by now...

"I train risk-averse retirees for generating passive income from trading of futures. They have limited expectations..."
  • #28
  • Apr 13, 2022 2:43am Apr 13, 2022 2:43am
Quoting simnz
{quote} I am a spectator of slanging matches between Ff ghosts whose reason for the existence on FF is just that. All gossiping ghosts want is : free space, access to guinea pigs free of cost, (without having to share source codes of their indicators or EAs), constant cock-fighting, trolling and trying to drive out genuine forum contributors. Interesting to note is all of them share a common Guru, George. Some of them have excellent chart drawing and hindsight trading capabilities. They provide good copy which boosts their ego. Some of them take...
The problem is Simnz the forum is open to people with hidden agendas.
At least you're blatant about it.
Go to hand that to you.
  • #29
  • Apr 26, 2022 2:24am Apr 26, 2022 2:24am
Turn off the PnL, or make all decisions on a separate account, and only use your main account to press buy/sell.

Meditate. Become aware of your emotions and though processes.

Have a rigorous system where you have to tick out your checklist EVERY time. In 'Atomic Habits' James Clear talks about how they do this in the Japanese train system - thus reducing errors by 70%. Every time a train rides into the station the driver calls out his current speed out loud. Every time the doors close the ushers point at every door in the train and says all clear. The point is to make the unconscious conscious, that's the only want to not let the unconscious drive you
  • #30
  • Aug 21, 2023 3:32pm Aug 21, 2023 3:32pm
Presuming you already have a technical strategy or a whole bunch of them then trading is 100% psychological.
It has been said that emotions are automatic reactions that skip our psychology to trigger a chemical reaction stimulating the adrenal glands on the kidneys to dump cortisol into the system, pumping us up for fight or flight.
There is a growing business model teaching traders how to tap into the pineal gland and adjust the automatic reactions / emotions.
They talk of saber tooth tigers and how these are pre programed primal survival instincts.
Personally I know I never will see a sabretooth tiger because they are extinct but people love a story and are wide eyed signing up for the next chapter.
IMHO its your ego simply wanting to be right, forced in the probability environment that it has no control over. Emotions are not automatic we create them.
The question is are you here to fight and be right, which is fun and highly addictive or are you here to make copious amounts of money.
  • #31
  • Last Post: Aug 21, 2023 3:41pm Aug 21, 2023 3:41pm
You only have to look at the expenses budget of every country on the planet to see that fighting and being right are at the top of the agenda. The addiction is so great that brokers invest in it, opening the doors and welcoming you in to your demise. Happy Trading
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