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  • #6,721
  • Feb 21, 2022 6:33pm Feb 21, 2022 6:33pm
I'd really like to see how MFF handles Wiley's case.

I think he has been unjustly villified on this thread (being called "idiot," etc) when nothing on MFF's FAQ states that one's MFF account should be the "master" and that you could not copy from your own account outside of MFF.
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  • #6,722
  • Feb 21, 2022 9:37pm Feb 21, 2022 9:37pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} That's not correct at all. Not sure who you heard that from. I contacted Connor on their Discord support and confirmed. {image} {image}
Just shows how confusing it can be I guess. I queried the use of a copier and this was the reply I received (June 2021) from Yavuz:

Hi there,
The host account should be MFF account, otherwise we will need to investigate the trade copier EA to make sure its not a signal service or trade copier from another individual.
Regards,
Yavuz.
https://my-forex-funds.intercom-mail...jpg?1621161990Yavuz from My Forex Funds
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Cheers all.
  • #6,723
  • Feb 21, 2022 10:52pm Feb 21, 2022 10:52pm
Quoting abryan
https://finotrader.com/ref=91 no time limit on their challenges,they have a telegram channel too,only time will tell if they are really legit
I just have such a hard time trusting someone who cannot even proofread web copy.
"We are located in the London"
"We has realistic target"
What country do we really think they are operating from?
Other than that, prices look great, 7% target stage 1, no time limit. Dream come true if it's real.
  • #6,724
  • Feb 21, 2022 11:39pm Feb 21, 2022 11:39pm
I am seeing a pattern of new firms coming onboard and undercutting the big boys. You don't see them with stupid rules like hand over your EA to us or close all your trades by end of the week or don't trade news etc. I wonder how long the big current boys can hold on to their retarded rules.
  • #6,725
  • Edited 12:23am Feb 22, 2022 12:13am | Edited 12:23am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I just have such a hard time trusting someone who cannot even proofread web copy. "We are located in the London" "We has realistic target" What country do we really think they are operating from? Other than that, prices look great, 7% target stage 1, no time limit. Dream come true if it's real.
Hungary
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  • #6,726
  • Feb 22, 2022 12:41am Feb 22, 2022 12:41am
suits me well with all the rules tried to buy 25k challenge card has been declined
Allergic to bullshitters, never argue with fools
  • #6,727
  • Feb 22, 2022 3:49am Feb 22, 2022 3:49am
Quoting OutThere
I am seeing a pattern of new firms coming onboard and undercutting the big boys. You don't see them with stupid rules like hand over your EA to us or close all your trades by end of the week or don't trade news etc. I wonder how long the big current boys can hold on to their retarded rules.
I think the rules of two big boys(FTMO and MFF) are just fine. It must not be too easy. They have to protect themselves from gamblers to serve pro traders. I usually suspect the firm if the rules are very easy because their main purpose is usually hunting the fees, not funding traders...
  • #6,728
  • Feb 22, 2022 3:56am Feb 22, 2022 3:56am
Quoting mcquak
{quote} Hungary {image}
a non-Hungarian named guy ( Slovak name?) in a tiny village address ( Bezenye, pop= 1300 ppl)....suddenly the faked London (virtual) office address looks classy...
what can be wrong?
nice extra touch that all is posted by a non-commercial member, with a very much commercial referral link.
the so-called "prop trading" is definitely ripe for a major clean up.

i mean, what to expect when " trusted" firms come out with BS of raising small ( read unproven) acct's traders profit share, but cut those of big ( read: proven) acct's bcos they cant find more investors?
what rubbish is that?!
if have already all allocation money handled out, just stop enrolling new ppl the same speed. real simple. after all, claimed that the lion share of the profit derived from trading ( as any prop shop should have!) and not from fees ( as most ponzi works!)
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #6,729
  • Feb 22, 2022 5:29am Feb 22, 2022 5:29am
Quoting martyr13
{quote} I think the rules of two big boys(FTMO and MFF) are just fine. It must not be too easy. They have to protect themselves from gamblers to serve pro traders. I usually suspect the firm if the rules are very easy because their main purpose is usually hunting the fees, not funding traders...
Another consideration is that a funded trader would want the Prop Firm to apply a set of trading objectives that complement the business plan such that longevity of operations is firmly in place.

Many traders put alot of effort and time into passing several challenges and finally getting to the funded stage and the last thing they want to see is the Prop Firm go belly up.

Traders and Prop Firms should always aspire to a win-win situation.

Ofcourse the trading objectives may not suit all funded traders but as long as they suit most funded traders then it's a mutually beneficial partnership.

Masterrmind ..........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #6,730
  • Feb 22, 2022 6:14am Feb 22, 2022 6:14am
Quoting martyr13
{quote} I think the rules of two big boys(FTMO and MFF) are just fine. It must not be too easy. They have to protect themselves from gamblers to serve pro traders. I usually suspect the firm if the rules are very easy because their main purpose is usually hunting the fees, not funding traders...
There are all kinds of characters in this world. If you need to be wrangled, constrained and told what to do as a subservient dependent trader, then you have it made with your beloved big boys.
  • #6,731
  • Feb 22, 2022 6:31am Feb 22, 2022 6:31am
no reply yet even after repeated emails

looks like no one is sitting on the desk at finotrade


the offer was too good but looks like the company is not
Allergic to bullshitters, never argue with fools
  • #6,732
  • Feb 22, 2022 6:54am Feb 22, 2022 6:54am
Quoting mcquak
{quote} Hungary {image}
So basically a 20-year-old kid made a website. What could go wrong?
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #6,733
  • Feb 22, 2022 7:08am Feb 22, 2022 7:08am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} So basically a 20-year-old kid made a website. What could go wrong?
Nothing! Btw their terms and conditions are a copy of One Up trader. What do we know about one up trader? What does this mean?

I hope they/he somehow manage to survive.. I mean he's young!

Their offer is too good..
  • #6,734
  • Feb 22, 2022 7:34am Feb 22, 2022 7:34am
Quoting OutThere
I am seeing a pattern of new firms coming onboard and undercutting the big boys. You don't see them with stupid rules like hand over your EA to us or close all your trades by end of the week or don't trade news etc. I wonder how long the big current boys can hold on to their retarded rules.
FTMO and MFF both have accounts in which none of what you just mentioned exists.
  • #6,735
  • Feb 22, 2022 7:36am Feb 22, 2022 7:36am
Quoting martyr13
{quote} I think the rules of two big boys(FTMO and MFF) are just fine. It must not be too easy. They have to protect themselves from gamblers to serve pro traders. I usually suspect the firm if the rules are very easy because their main purpose is usually hunting the fees, not funding traders...
Protect them from gamblers?
They want only gamblers, that's how they make money, 10%/8% per month to pass is pure gambling, and we all know that 99% of people who call themselves traders are nothing else that gamblers.

It doesn't mean you cannot make money gambling with forex, but trading is something else
  • #6,736
  • Feb 22, 2022 7:40am Feb 22, 2022 7:40am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} There are all kinds of characters in this world. If you need to be wrangled, constrained and told what to do as a subservient dependent trader, then you have it made with your beloved big boys.
It is simply don't lose more than 5% in a day and 10% (FTMO) or 12% (MFF) overall. That is all. News trading and weekend holding with MFF or FTMO swing account is fine. You DO NOT NEED to submit your EAs any longer. Hit your target, get funded and trade.
I can always tell when you enter the room because there is just this glowing beam of positivity emulating from you EVERYWHERE you go.
  • #6,737
  • Feb 22, 2022 7:42am Feb 22, 2022 7:42am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} FTMO and MFF both have accounts in which none of what you just mentioned exists.
I'll check into that later but good to see they finally are sobering up.
Ps: no need to hand over EA in evaluation account does not mean dick sh*t.
  • #6,738
  • Feb 22, 2022 7:45am Feb 22, 2022 7:45am
Quoting Metcalfe
{quote} Protect them from gamblers? They want only gamblers, that's how they make money, 10%/8% per month to pass is pure gambling, and we all know that 99% of people who call themselves traders are nothing else that gamblers. It doesn't mean you cannot make money gambling with forex, but trading is something else
You now have 45 days with FTMO (as long as half way there with 3 days left), always been 60 days with MFF (with extension). It's 1% per week, after funded, there is no target. You CAN PASS these challenges using no more than 1:1 or 2:1 leverage. No need to gamble. You are correct, though, most people are indeed gamblers and WILL NOT approach this way.
  • #6,739
  • Feb 22, 2022 7:45am Feb 22, 2022 7:45am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} It is simply don't lose more than 5% in a day and 10% (FTMO) or 12% (MFF) overall. That is all. News trading and weekend holding with MFF or FTMO swing account is fine. You DO NOT NEED to submit your EAs any longer. Hit your target, get funded and trade. I can always tell when you enter the room because there is just this glowing beam of positivity emulating from you EVERYWHERE you go.
Thank you. Maybe I will send you the reason I am glowing in PM later.
So, no need to place SL either?
Why don't they just say NO RULES like BGC then?
  • #6,740
  • Feb 22, 2022 8:22am Feb 22, 2022 8:22am
Quoting Muhammedfx
no reply yet even after repeated emails looks like no one is sitting on the desk at finotrade the offer was too good but looks like the company is not
This company is smells fishy. They say they are from London yet their English is horrible, mistakes everywhere
Terms are amazing but you know what they say, if it is too good to be true it probably isn't true
Those who don't believe in magic will never find it
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