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  • Feb 17, 2022 2:08pm Feb 17, 2022 2:08pm
  •  Paulscaff1
  • Joined Feb 2021 | Status: Member | 640 Posts
Quoting Wiley7777
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Sent in all the proving documents Cryptosurf suggested. Let's see how long it takes for something to come back. Hopefully it'll be soon if they read any of this. I hope that I overreacted and crypto is correct in seeing this as a simple situation and a mistake on their end is corrected. I still maintain that their shoddy support ops, willful ghosting, and their blase we don't give a [email protected]#k attitude toward all of it just reeks of rank arrogance. I'll be rooting for the competition to grow and thrive for sure.
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Last time I got a reply to a support ticket was 15 hours, which I thought was ok.

I would guess your situation will take longer to solve, but you should hopefully at least get some confirmation within that time to say that their looking into it.
 
 
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  •  Cryptosurf
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Quoting Wiley7777
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Sent in all the proving documents Cryptosurf suggested. Let's see how long it takes for something to come back. Hopefully it'll be soon if they read any of this. I hope that I overreacted and crypto is correct in seeing this as a simple situation and a mistake on their end is corrected. I still maintain that their shoddy support ops, willful ghosting, and their blase we don't give a [email protected]#k attitude toward all of it just reeks of rank arrogance. I'll be rooting for the competition to grow and thrive for sure.
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Don't blame them for your willful idiocy. A rational person would have known exactly what to do to prove their case. It's unfathomable how anyone can be so stupid.

EDIT: I still think you and your story doesn't wash, and you're nothing more then D grade Bull artist.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
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  • Feb 17, 2022 2:42pm Feb 17, 2022 2:42pm
  •  Wiley7777
  • | Joined Jul 2021 | Status: Member | 18 Posts
Quoting Cryptosurf
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{quote} Don't blame them for your willful idiocy. A rational person would have known exactly what to do to prove their case. It's unfathomable how anyone can be so stupid. EDIT: I still think you and your story doesn't wash, and you're nothing more then D grade Bull artist.
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1. It took them close to two weeks just to let me know, only upon my chasing them with emails through another department, that my payment was denied due to signals. Is this acceptable to you?
2. In any business, you do not assume that a customer figures everything out. No matter how obvious it maybe to you. Even if that customer comes across as a complete idiot, you STILL explain things in a clear manner to that person until he/she is clear.
This was my last response to the agent before I was ghosted:

Yeah so HOW do I prove that the original source of those trades did not come from a third party? You are saying that any trades originating from a non-MFF account
is presumed to be third party signals. Yes, a few trades came from non-MFF accounts but HOW do I prove that I was the one that originated those trades from a
non-MFF personal account? Like specifically what do I need to submit? If I submitted all the trades recorded from other accounts that sent the trades and the
accounts bear my name does that do the trick??


Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:46 AM
From: "Abdul Noor Wasay (Support)" <[email protected]>
To:
Subject: [My Forex Funds] Re: payout
Your request Ticket number (557244) has been updated. To add additional comments, reply to this email.

Abdul Noor Wasay (My Forex Funds)

Feb 16, 2022, 7:46 EST

Dear ,

We would be requiring the proof that you were not using any signal service on your account. You mentioned you used trade copier to copy trades from your personal account.

Copy trading of others persons signals is not allowed with us. As those trades (even though they are from your personal accounts) were not from your MFF account.

Thank you.
Regards,
Noor Wasay
Customer Support Agent
www.myforexfunds.com







Feb 16, 2022, 7:01 EST

Noor, I was asking what specifically do you need from me in a case like this as proof. Please let me know.
 
 
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  • Feb 17, 2022 2:53pm Feb 17, 2022 2:53pm
  •  Cryptosurf
  • Joined Feb 2015 | Status: Member | 1,458 Posts | Online Now
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{quote} 1. It took them close to two weeks just to let me know, only upon my chasing them with emails through another department, that my payment was denied due to signals. Is this acceptable to you? 2. In any business, you do not assume that a customer figures everything out. No matter how obvious it maybe to you. Even if that customer comes across as a complete idiot, you STILL explain things in a clear manner to that person until he/she is clear. .
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You're not a customer. You're a private contractor working on behalf of MFF once you signed that contract. You're supposed to know what you're doing.

Like I said before, it's unfathomable how anyone can be so stupid.
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  • Feb 17, 2022 2:55pm Feb 17, 2022 2:55pm
  •  Wiley7777
  • | Joined Jul 2021 | Status: Member | 18 Posts
And in a typical MFF fashion, I finally get a response just now from billing after explaining the whole situation and asking again to let me know what they need from me for dispute:

Kane B (My Forex Funds)
Feb 17, 2022, 14:06 EST
Hi ,
I hope you are doing well.
We have not disbursed your payout as the signals have been caught in your trades.
Best Regards,
Kane B
My Forex Funds - Billing Team
https://www.myforexfunds.com
 
 
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  • Feb 17, 2022 3:46pm Feb 17, 2022 3:46pm
  •  Expo33
  • Joined Aug 2013 | Status: Member | 3,095 Posts
Just to break up the monotony of the Wiley7777 saga.............

The 5ers Bootcamp price went from 50 Euros to 85 Euros! Wow, that's some serious inflation but don't worry it's transitory.

Also, E8 Funding is offering some extra drawdown. Not a recommendation as I've never used them. Just sharing the email I got.
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  • Feb 17, 2022 4:05pm Feb 17, 2022 4:05pm
  •  Cryptosurf
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Wow, that's some serious inflation but don't worry it's transitory.
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  • Feb 17, 2022 8:08pm Feb 17, 2022 8:08pm
  •  navk
  • Joined Oct 2010 | Status: Trader | 15,967 Posts | Online Now
hi guys,

When I had funded account with MFF few months ago, my payments were made thro bank transfer.

There was no " Deel " payment that time.

Now they make all payments to all Independant contractors thro Deel account.

What do I do to open Deel account ?

Can any one provide links and process how to open Deel account ?

And how do I inform MFF about this ?

Thanks
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  •  Capablanca
  • Joined Nov 2021 | Status: Member | 861 Posts
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hi guys, When I had funded account with MFF few months ago, my payments were made thro bank transfer. There was no " Deel " payment that time. Now they make all payments to all Independant contractors thro Deel account. What do I do to open Deel account ? Can any one provide links and process how to open Deel account ? And how do I inform MFF about this ? Thanks
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This was a while ago but as far as I remember you open an account providing your details and ID card. Deel verifies that and the account becomes active, allowing you to receive money in Deel.

To receive a payout MFF will send you a contract to sign in Deel's platform. You read and sign it. After that the contract is active and they are able to make you payments.

The money is received in Deel and has to be withdraw in 30 days. Withdraws to Wise or Revolut are free of charge. For other platforms like Paypal or Coinbase there's a cost.

You can also spend the balance using their virtual card, although they're very strict in the spending. I tried once to purchase a challenge with Deel balance and that came refused. I also tried to deposit in my broker account using Deel card and also came refused. I was able, though, to purchase a gift card at Amazon.
 
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  • Feb 18, 2022 5:47am Feb 18, 2022 5:47am
  •  navk
  • Joined Oct 2010 | Status: Trader | 15,967 Posts | Online Now
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{quote} This was a while ago but as far as I remember you open an account providing your details and ID card. Deel verifies that and the account becomes active, allowing you to receive money in Deel. To receive a payout MFF will send you a contract to sign in Deel's platform. You read and sign it. After that the contract is active and they are able to make you payments. The money is received in Deel and has to be withdraw in 30 days. Withdraws to Wise or Revolut are free of charge. For other platforms like Paypal or Coinbase there's a cost. You...
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What do i have to do receive money from deel? I want to withdraw money to my bank account
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  • Feb 18, 2022 7:00am Feb 18, 2022 7:00am
  •  Fagin
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Offline | 1,147 Posts
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{quote} What do i have to do receive money from deel? I want to withdraw money to my bank account
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Just follow the instructions and add your account details, it processes automatically (at least it does in my country, maybe different for others).

If you are due a payment then MFF should have sent you the links and contract etc, I'd do it from their end rather using their links than try to make it work your side. It should all be pretty seamless.
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  • Feb 18, 2022 7:25am Feb 18, 2022 7:25am
  •  Capablanca
  • Joined Nov 2021 | Status: Member | 861 Posts
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{quote} What do i have to do receive money from deel? I want to withdraw money to my bank account
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You have an option of bank wire. You would have to insert the details to know the costs.
I know that Wire and Revolut are free. For bank wire I don't know.
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  • Feb 18, 2022 9:35am Feb 18, 2022 9:35am
  •  hazelj80
  • Joined Nov 2008 | Status: Member | 620 Posts
What I am thinking of is getting with a prop firm once I get something down to where I like it then trade with them and raise my own capital to x amount with my share of the profits then do my own personal account.

I'm not coming across 50k own my own and I wouldn't suggest getting a loan for trading (really stupid)

This is probably the best thing to do if you're undercapitalized but want to trade your own account with your own money
Use OPM (other people's money aka leverage)

We're already leveraging a lot so why not leverage theirs to benefit you in the end??
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  • Feb 18, 2022 11:15am Feb 18, 2022 11:15am
  •  navk
  • Joined Oct 2010 | Status: Trader | 15,967 Posts | Online Now
Hey guys,
I am travelling currently but noticed that my trades hit the levels and passed phase 2 evaluation.
Will start contract process on Monday
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  •  mcquak
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Hey guys, I am travelling currently but noticed that my trades hit the levels and passed phase 2 evaluation. Will start contract process on Monday {image}
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Congrats, you made it!
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  • Feb 18, 2022 4:52pm Feb 18, 2022 4:52pm
  •  Masterrmind
  • Joined Jun 2013 | Status: Master chaos and you master trading | 11,265 Posts
Quoting Expo33
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Just to break up the monotony of the Wiley7777 saga............. The 5ers Bootcamp price went from 50 Euros to 85 Euros! Wow, that's some serious inflation but don't worry it's transitory. Also, E8 Funding is offering some extra drawdown. Not a recommendation as I've never used them. Just sharing the email I got. {image}
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It's great to keep the thread participants aware of any changes to Prop Firms offerings and conditions.

Thanks for the update.

Masterrmind ............
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
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  • Feb 18, 2022 4:57pm Feb 18, 2022 4:57pm
  •  Masterrmind
  • Joined Jun 2013 | Status: Master chaos and you master trading | 11,265 Posts
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Hey guys, I am travelling currently but noticed that my trades hit the levels and passed phase 2 evaluation. Will start contract process on Monday {image}
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You really power through these challenges Navk in quick time.

Great result and very well done to you.

Best wishes,

Masterrmind .............
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
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  • Feb 20, 2022 6:43am Feb 20, 2022 6:43am
  •  manuforex
  • Joined Nov 2019 | Status: Member | 71 Posts
Quoting Expo33
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Just to break up the monotony of the Wiley7777 saga............. The 5ers Bootcamp price went from 50 Euros to 85 Euros! Wow, that's some serious inflation but don't worry it's transitory. Also, E8 Funding is offering some extra drawdown. Not a recommendation as I've never used them. Just sharing the email I got. {image}
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It did increase but at the end when you passed the 3 phases, the final cost of challenge will be the same.
Also, for each phase, you had to do 8% profit, now it’s 6%.
I’m currently in phase 2 of the challenge. It’s more peaceful that MFF or FTMO, because you have 1 year to finish challenge.
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  • Feb 20, 2022 9:28am Feb 20, 2022 9:28am
  •  mcquak
  • Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Inactive | 467 Posts
Gang, FYI:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lux News Alert


Dear Trader, we have made a change in our profit split into the Live accounts for new sign-ups and reset accounts.

Because of the growth of our program, and the increasing numbers of traders with high-value accounts, we need to attract more new investors and partners.

Most big investors get around 60/70% of the profit split when they invest their money in an asset management company. We need to stay attractive to be able to offer our ultra-high real money accounts to an ever-larger group of traders.

For this reason, it was necessary to lower the profit splits into ultra-high accounts (500k up to 2.5 million) from 65% to 50%

On the other hand, we increased the profit split on smaller accounts (up to and including 200k) to 75%, a higher profit split than ever before.

We are aware that many others prop firms offer higher profit splits. Offering extreme high-profit splits is easy for prop firms that only offer virtual money accounts or work with a b-book broker who trades against you. They also only offer virtual (demo) trading on their so-called live account. In the end, they do not need to find investors for virtual money accounts as virtual money is unlimited available for them!

We only offer real money accounts, and therefore, we have to deal with real investors to cover the funds in these accounts. Our -and their wishes- are to steadily grow our program in a sustainable manner, and not have it only available to a small group of traders, or face instability due to lack of funding.


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  • Feb 20, 2022 11:25am Feb 20, 2022 11:25am
  •  Bizziebee
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Gang, FYI: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lux News Alert Dear Trader, we have made a change in our profit split into the Live accounts for new sign-ups and reset accounts. Because of the growth of our program, and the increasing numbers of traders with high-value accounts, we need to attract more new investors and partners. Most big investors get around 60/70% of the profit split when they invest their money...
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