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  • Apr 15, 2021 9:38am Apr 15, 2021 9:38am
Quoting Expo33
Pending orders EUR/USD H1 - TWO CONFLUENT FRACTAL LINES MOVING TOWARDS PRICE {image} GBP/CAD H4 - FRACTAL LINE MOVING AWAY FROM PRICE {image} USD/JPY M30 - FRACTAL LINE MOVING AWAY FROM PRICE {image}
None of our orders filled so far

Another pending order

USD/CAD H1 - FRACTAL LINE MOVING AWAY FROM PRICE
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  • Apr 15, 2021 10:16am Apr 15, 2021 10:16am
Quoting Expo33
Pending orders EUR/USD H1 - TWO CONFLUENT FRACTAL LINES MOVING TOWARDS PRICE {image} GBP/CAD H4 - FRACTAL LINE MOVING AWAY FROM PRICE {image} USD/JPY M30 - FRACTAL LINE MOVING AWAY FROM PRICE {image}
We will consider this pending order to be null and void as price came within 5 pips of the line. We can consider that as a missed first touch. Too bad as price rocketed upwards nicely. We had our trigger set at 3 pips from the line

GBP/CAD H4 - FRACTAL LINE MISSED ENTRY BY 5 PIPS
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  • Apr 15, 2021 11:11am Apr 15, 2021 11:11am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} None of our orders filled so far Another pending order USD/CAD H1 - FRACTAL LINE MOVING AWAY FROM PRICE {image}
Replacing this pending order with a closer fractal line that has been validated and then broken.

USD/CAD H1 - FRACTAL LINE VALIDATED AND BROKEN AND MOVING AWAY FROM PRICE
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Oil/USequities up up up and USD/CAD also going up. That is a complete breakdown of the usual inverse correlation. So we will be looking for a spot to get long on USD/CAD.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #544
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  • Edited 11:00pm Apr 15, 2021 10:43pm | Edited 11:00pm
Pending order

Still can't figure out how to set the EA with Bitcoin. This setup is basically a horizontal line so we can set it as is.

BTC/USD M30 - FRACTAL LINE WITH TRIANGLE CONFLUENCE
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  • #545
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  • Apr 16, 2021 3:18am Apr 16, 2021 3:18am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I'm not sure I understand your comment but thanks for posting.
Probably a cultural difference. In more direct language, your thread is a very good one. Your method has a lot of solid components to it. Most importantly, you are using it in real time on a funded account. You are not getting a lot of posts because everyone is taking notes who can understand what you are putting out, and those that cannot need to go back to babypips, so they cannot be trolls either. Okay, that's enough from me.

Edit: In my case, for example, while I do not take entries the way that you do, the dynamic trendlines are excellent ways to evaluate any active trades to determine whether or not it is time to get out with profit, tighten the stop, or add to a position. I am never too old to add to my toolbox.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
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  • Apr 16, 2021 8:44am Apr 16, 2021 8:44am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Probably a cultural difference. In more direct language, your thread is a very good one. Your method has a lot of solid components to it. Most importantly, you are using it in real time on a funded account. You are not getting a lot of posts because everyone is taking notes who can understand what you are putting out, and those that cannot need to go back to babypips, so they cannot be trolls either. Okay, that's enough from me. Edit: In my case, for example, while I do not take entries the way that you do, the dynamic trendlines are excellent...
Thanks for the clarification and compliment.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
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  • Apr 16, 2021 8:46am Apr 16, 2021 8:46am
Quoting Expo33
Pending order Still can't figure out how to set the EA with Bitcoin. This setup is basically a horizontal line so we can set it as is. BTC/USD M30 - FRACTAL LINE WITH TRIANGLE CONFLUENCE {image}
This trade was an epic failure that sent me into a little bit of a revenge trading mode

I had barely set the order then watched BUTTcoin plummet $500 in 32 seconds, oh my.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
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  • Apr 16, 2021 8:52am Apr 16, 2021 8:52am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} This trade was an epic failure that sent me into a little bit of a revenge trading mode I had barely set the order then watched BUTTcoin plummet $500 in 32 seconds, oh my.
Lmao Revenge trading, Sodomising Traders since the 1950s.
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  • Apr 16, 2021 12:41pm Apr 16, 2021 12:41pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} Lmao Revenge trading, Sodomising Traders since the 1950s.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
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  • Apr 17, 2021 1:02pm Apr 17, 2021 1:02pm
Nice climb with the BTC trades.
Are you trading this same strategy on your funded account?
Why didn't you replicate the BTC trades?
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  • Apr 17, 2021 5:44pm Apr 17, 2021 5:44pm
Quoting Koop
Nice climb with the BTC trades. Are you trading this same strategy on your funded account? Why didn't you replicate the BTC trades?
Thanks.

I was going to but I wanted to make sure I could leave BTC trades open when they intermittently shut down their server during weekend hours for BTC. Plus, there can be some nasty gaps when they reopen. As well as pretty bad spreads. I haven't confirmed with their chat support yet so I decided not to risk it for now.
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  • Apr 17, 2021 5:46pm Apr 17, 2021 5:46pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Thanks. I was going to but I wanted to make sure I could leave BTC trades open when they intermittently shut down their server during weekend hours for BTC. Plus, there can be some nasty gaps when they reopen. As well as pretty bad spreads. I haven't confirmed with their chat support yet so I decided not to risk it for now. {image}
You are correct, on funded, those need to be closed. Anytime there is a 2 hour or longer closure.
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  • Apr 17, 2021 6:13pm Apr 17, 2021 6:13pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} You are correct, on funded, those need to be closed. Anytime there is a 2 hour or longer closure.
I kind of thought that but wasn't quite sure.

Also, I did some seriously bad revenge trading on Friday to ruin my good start to the month and thought it best to let it go until Sunday anyways.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
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  • Apr 17, 2021 6:21pm Apr 17, 2021 6:21pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I kind of thought that but wasn't quite sure. Also, I did some seriously bad revenge trading on Friday to ruin my good start to the month and thought it best to let it go until Sunday anyways.
Oh that makes sense, good call.
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  • Apr 18, 2021 4:53pm Apr 18, 2021 4:53pm
Hello traders, we have some setups to start the week but will wait to set any pending orders until the market has some liquidity.

From here on forward I will only trade fractal lines moving towards price by waiting for the line to break and then buying/selling the other side. I will only trade the first touch for fractal lines moving away from price and will catalog the angle of the fractal line that to see if steeper angles lines are better overall. Of course, if I get frustrated I will go insane and just start clicking buttons and hope for the best

AUD/USD H1 - FRACTAL LINE MOVING AWAY FROM PRICE (11.4 DEGREES)
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USD/JPY M30 - TWO FRACTAL LINES BOTH MOVING AWAY FROM PRICE (LINE#1 - 25.1 DEGREES, LINE 2 - 21.3 DEGREES)
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GBP/NZD H4 - FRACTAL LINE MOVING TOWARDS PRICE
https://www.xe.com/currencyconverter...rom=GBP&To=NZD shows this pair gapping up above the line on market open which is perfect as we can then wait for liquidity and then buy the retrace back to the line
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  • Apr 18, 2021 6:59pm Apr 18, 2021 6:59pm
Quoting Expo33
Hello traders, we have some setups to start the week but will wait to set any pending orders until the market has some liquidity. From here on forward I will only trade fractal lines moving towards price by waiting for the line to break and then buying/selling the other side. I will only trade the first touch for fractal lines moving away from price and will catalog the angle of the fractal line that to see if steeper angles lines are better overall. Of course, if I get frustrated I will go insane and just start clicking buttons and hope for the...
We took a manual entry on GBP/NZD.

Pretty risky for a Sunday afternoon trade but we are sticking with the plan of buying a retrace back to a broken fractal line. Turns out upon further examination there is an older fractal line in confluence with our newest fractal line. Using an untested wickless trendline (saddle brown on the chart) as our TP guide.

GBP/NZD H4 - BUYING RETEST OF A BROKEN FRACTAL LINE
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  • #557
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  • Apr 18, 2021 9:11pm Apr 18, 2021 9:11pm
Quoting Expo33
Hello traders, we have some setups to start the week but will wait to set any pending orders until the market has some liquidity. From here on forward I will only trade fractal lines moving towards price by waiting for the line to break and then buying/selling the other side. I will only trade the first touch for fractal lines moving away from price and will catalog the angle of the fractal line that to see if steeper angles lines are better overall. Of course, if I get frustrated I will go insane and just start clicking buttons and hope for the...
Oops.

Packed up my tripod and zoom lens and went down to the local watershed to do some wildlife photography and forgot to set my pending orders for the setups I found. Missed the first touch on USD/JPY and of course, price perfectly touched the line before bouncing 12 pips. But it's only 12 pips, right? Wrong. Attention to detail is everything in trading. Why scour the charts for a few good setups and then miss the moment. I could have taken 12 pips profit. I could have tightened my SL and gave myself a really good risk/reward situation. Or, I could have moved my SL to BE for a risk-free running trade. But instead, I got a bad taste in my mouth and that could lead to some impatient trading. Maybe chase a trade that isn't a good setup.

USD/JPY M30 - THE MISSED ENTRY UPDATED CHART
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  • #558
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  • Jun 7, 2021 3:08am Jun 7, 2021 3:08am
Hey there Expo33,

Thanks very much sharing this system. I'm currently testing it out, hopefully I'm trading it correctly and will post some screenshots soon.

BTW I noticed you also started the Wolf Waves thread back in 2017.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...et-in-the-zone

If I recall correctly within that thread you mentioned something like 70% of your trades at the time were based on Wolf Waves. Curious to know if that is still the case or if you've moved on and replaced your bread and butter trades with Fractal Geometry? Also do you find if there is much correlation between the two systems? I was very interested in Wolf Waves years ago before I realized you started a thread on this. Much appreciated for all your efforts and dedication on doing so.

On a personal note, hats off to you for being a single dad. I was one myself for many years and understand how tough it can be.

Thanks,
Timo
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  • Jan 8, 2022 10:52am Jan 8, 2022 10:52am
Thanks for this way of seeing fractals. will continue to follow.
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  • Dec 9, 2022 11:27am Dec 9, 2022 11:27am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Probably a cultural difference. In more direct language, your thread is a very good one. Your method has a lot of solid components to it. Most importantly, you are using it in real time on a funded account. You are not getting a lot of posts because everyone is taking notes who can understand what you are putting out, and those that cannot need to go back to babypips, so they cannot be trolls either. Okay, that's enough from me. Edit: In my case, for example, while I do not take entries the way that you do, the dynamic trendlines are excellent...
sincerely i wish i can understand this way of trading, knowing and understanding the basics is my difficulty like how to set lines to expect buy, what are the conditions to place the lines between two fractal points etc, i will appreciate if you can help
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