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Quoting paavo59
they come in thinking the world owes them every thing a entitled jerk he would think that way diggs , peace again how nice Ausi,THE BIGGEEST scammer ,dig,joj,,,stop taht BS
DIGGER AUSSI THREAH Lol,, I remember Hocius telling you you would make friends ,just remember ,no time for losers ,,,,,,,, lets see,,,
Quoting paavo59
they come in thinking the world owes them every thing a entitled jerk he would think that way diggs , peace again how nice Ausi,THE BIGGEEST scammer ,dig,joj,,,stop taht BS
JOKER ,,,,Haha yes ... I met a lot of nice people here ... Some of you believed in me more than my family. ??????????? money ???????
Quoting paavo59
{quote} JOKER ,,,,Haha yes ... I met a lot of nice people here ... Some of you believed in me more than my family. ??????????? money ???????
Mate, you have used 7 posts to make your point.

We get it, your’e not the only one to raise this issue.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
Quoting RickM
{quote} Mate, you have used 7 posts to make your point. We get it, your’e not the only one to raise this issue.
Hi Joker, easy going, show a proven account, probably no problem, probably going for 10 minutes, do it, don't think to come, sa am thing Digger, Aussi, what can be deduced, good night everyone
Quoting paavo59
{quote} Hi Joker, easy going, show a proven account, probably no problem, probably going for 10 minutes, do it, don't think to come, sa am thing Digger, Aussi, what can be deduced, good night everyone
Sorry RickM ,that was last,
Hi Andy,

Quoting moodybot
In the beginning there was monitor and keyboard.
The monitor was without form and so the Grand Architect separated high and low with a horizontal line.
He called this price.
Let there be trading said the Grand Architect.
The Grand Architect deposited man on earth in his form and said that we must trade.
Man did not trade. The horizontal line would not move.
To induce man to trade the Grand Architect set the high and low target each day.
Man would buy while the Grand Architect would sell.
And it was good....... for the Grand Architect....

An Andy Gem lol.


Crikey there was quite a bit I had to speedread through this morning.
We are moving away slightly now (lol) from George’s discussion, but hey, that’s what happens.


The Architect, now I like that one, Andy.


This (architect) IS imo
the “core” of what George was saying, to everyone, right from the very beginning of his first thread.

That the market is “operated” at its extremities (and that those extremities are fractal).


I usually just smile to myself when I get up in the mornings and have a look at where they took the market.

Now I don’t trade GBPUSD but here’s something, from back at the start of THIS week.
(I promised, and will honour, posting no more boring charts till 2022 lol, but here’s the reference post)


GBPUSD
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} The clockwork precision of fx markets always brings a smile.

The next station above is 1.34810, and ones below are already on the chart.



So, again, GU is now back at what I call a “rotational inflection” area.

How could it be seen four days ago though (rhetorical).
Well anyone can, if looking at the market in a particular way

And I am thinking (without knowing) that THIS is WHAT George commenced this second thread about.
It was never, imho, George’s idea to TELL traders HOW to trade.
But how simply to LOOK at the Market, and it’s Mechanics, as he saw it
(ie Andy’s Architect).


All the best for a great leadup to the New Years folks.
(sorry to all the posts I missed quoting or upticking, I enjoyed reading them all though)
Quoting TimeTells
Hi Andy, {quote} An Andy Gem lol. Crikey there was quite a bit I had to speedread through this morning. We are moving away slightly now (lol) from George’s discussion, but hey, that’s what happens. The Architect, now I like that one, Andy. This (architect) IS imo the “core” of what George was saying, to everyone, right from the very beginning of his first thread. That the market is “operated” at its extremities (and that those extremities are fractal). I usually just smile to myself when I get up in the mornings and have a look at where they took...
Hi Timetells,
yes i also marked that price (1.34810) on the chart when you mentioned it just to learn and see if the price will reach it and when. On the 4 hour chart there was a big sell off near that price few days ago and a bit of herd zone was created. Any reason why this is ” rotational inflection” area as u call it. And why were u so confident that price will come to that price level. I mean u were very precise abut the price level while most traders sort of have a zones in mind.

Regards
Quoting whitesta
{quote} Hi Timetells, yes i also marked that price (1.34810) on the chart when you mentioned it just to learn and see if the price will reach it and when. On the 4 hour chart there was a big sell off near that price few days ago and a bit of herd zone was created. Any reason why this is ” rotational inflection” area as u call it. And why were u so confident that price will come to that price level. I mean u were very precise abut the price level while most traders sort of have a zones in mind. Regards

Hi whitesta,

Cheers, yes I was very confident price would go to that point.
It arrived there to “less than a pip” on the hour candle completion after the NY open (16:00 on the charts).
(while I was asleep lol)


The important thing I should say is that I was extremely confident

… that price would EITHER, go UP to that 1.34810, OR DOWN to the inflection point below the 1.33900, which was at 1.33000.


So, I do NOT have directional “intent” covered (yet) in my trading. Price will go up or down and I will trade WITHIN the directional momentum
(ie somewhere within the full move - not often at their extremes) for some small pips.


While Directional INTENT was a principle that trader BWilliam did bring up over here on Andy’s Flying Dutchman thread.

Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Here's yours in Purple and my own algo repeating levels in Blue.
(interesting your demarcation line is around halfway - I will think hard on this, cheers BW)
{image}
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Hi Pete, both our lines are correct. Yours is the extreme. Mine a demarcation that's why it's halfway.
This ties in with my intent posts at extremes. Cheers

Those two posts above were the last time I exchanged posts with BW, who for his own reasons pulled the plug ultimately on posting.

BW also explained why he would not instruct folk on his intent ideas as they were his life’s work and good on him, I say.



Now, Inflection itself is quite a simple concept.

It is where the market GOES (imho) to specifically hesitate (or sometimes LOL blow straight through it to the next Inflection point again),
and when it does hesitate it then ranges in a rotational format above and below and around the inflection point.


Sometimes up to eight hours. Pic is here.

Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Past 9 days, market cycle build-ups, George's Targets and cycle completions.
(the top chart highest gray Inflection point is at 129.410 -see 2nd chart pic - but I couldn't quite draw it in at the top of the chart pic)
All done for me again, just keeping George's work alive for those that have followed him the past few years. . {image} {image}

(Once assessed as “being” in inflection range this could also be traded for 5 pips plus comms up & down and over & over until price breaks out of inflectional range -
it does it first with a ‘fake n flip’ trick move, as I call it, then comes the firm breakout sometime after - but that’s all another story)


Andy’s thread I posted from above, “Flying Dutchman”
and Andy’s other thread, “Real or Algo”
both go into quite a bit of discussion lol about Andy's Architect topic also, hehee,

which George firmly & devoutly believed in as I remember.

all the best
Pete
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Hi whitesta, Cheers, yes I was very confident price would go to that point. It arrived there to “less than a pip” on the hour candle completion after the NY open (16:00 on the charts). (while I was asleep lol) The important thing I should say is that I was extremely confident … that price would EITHER, go UP to that 1.34810, OR DOWN to the inflection point below the 1.33900, which was at 1.33000. So, I do NOT have directional “intent” covered (yet) in my trading. Price will go up or down and I will trade WITHIN the...
Hi Timetells,

Thanks again for the input. I have placed those price levels you mentioned to study the details of it. Those are the congestion areas where price spends most time. The price stayed around the 1.3480 area for quite some, nearly a day before dropping. And yes a couple of fake moves before it dropped. Atleast now i have a bit more details regarding the areas to look for. Step by step...

Regards
Hi,

Using the info provided by Timetells in posts a while ago, i tried to look for a reflection zone/ area on GBP/CAD on the daily time frame and came up with 1.72700. I got that particular price level around 5 or so days ago and yes the price did come to that price zone. It was a really congested area and the price was the closest to a whole number. Seemed a decent enough zone to me.
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Quoting TimeTells
Hi Andy, {quote} An Andy Gem lol. Crikey there was quite a bit I had to speedread through this morning. We are moving away slightly now (lol) from George’s discussion, but hey, that’s what happens. The Architect, now I like that one, Andy. This (architect) IS imo the “core” of what George was saying, to everyone, right from the very beginning of his first thread. That the market is “operated” at its extremities (and that those extremities are fractal). I usually just smile to myself when I get up in the mornings and have a look at where they took...

You know my take on the market Pete...

The fact that you have shown time and time again the working mechanics of the market, predicting reversals to the pip... that's a rare gift, achieved through bloody hard work. I'll admit now, I can't do that. BW was the only other one I have seen call price with the same accuracy.
You and I know some damn good traders, each has their own strengths, methods, ideas.... and to say its taken me 10,000 + hours to get anywhere near comfortable with the markets where even then I rely on money management with 28 pairs all feeding off of the 'circle of life'....

I rarely look in these days Pete, but when I do, your posts are in all honesty from a learning point of view, from a chart reading perspective, the only ones worth reading.

Andy
Quoting moodybot
{quote} You know my take on the market Pete...

Hi Andy,

Cheers mate, as always.


It’s important for me to always point out, that whatever I want to show, is usually a large picture overview of the market as it plays itself out in its (imo)
orchestrated structure (as it is the same activity over & over).


However, I still have plenty of work to do with my entry precisions.


There are plenty of posters on FF here, that I see, who have the entry aspect of trading very well fine tuned
(eg the Vol Folk also can pinpoint this pretty closely, whereas I do not always).


All the charts I post are mostly, just, interesting for me, rather than always useful from a trading viewpoint.


And any ‘to the pip’ action with price - which often happens for me after NY has opened, and while I am in bed LOL - is more a re-confirmation for me that the market is very well organised, and not so much a trading tool.

I do my trading in-between the Inflections.


What I see on the Factory are folks who are mainly looking for the HOW & WHEN to enter a trade, once they open up a chart.
And as such are looking for systems or templates etc.

Me (and yourself, I understand) are more inclined to be looking “ahead” at the WHERE something will be happening at some future point in time.


All traders are not ‘after’ the same thing (other than profit, of course) in their sought after METHODOLOGY.

George himself was doing BOTH on his first thread by giving his studied overview of the Market Mechanics initially (and how to observe it), and then next to pinpoint entries by incorporating his indis (ma’s & tma true) to cover upcoming trade entries.

all the best pal, the battle continues, have a great New Years.
Pete
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi Pumi .
Thanks Rick. It makes sense. This all goes back to manipulation.
consolidation/ manipulation and distribution are the 3 key thing i use to see how the markets are moving and reacting this set the presidencie then for internal or external liquidity and the over all range i am looking to trade in
Hi pete
I Hope you are well with good health
small doubt
i am from india as you know will george target theory work in indian indices and stock
As trading Forex from India is prohibited.
Quoting venkatredy
Hi pete
I Hope you are well with good health
small doubt
i am from india as you know will george target theory work in indian indices and stock
As trading Forex from India is prohibited.

Hi V,

Mate I do not trade either stocks or indices so I have zero trading experience there.


In my opinion, and from what I have looked at though with major indices (NOT stocks) I see George's Target Theory running all through them yes.

However I am always "looking for this" whenever I open any chart (forex), so it just jumps out at me.


What I will say, imho, is that these and all theories are just the BEGINNING of an understanding of the repeating Market Mechanics.

I firmly believe that any trader who has success in the markets (any markets) does so because of THEMSELVES, and that these theories are guide posts to getting a trader to a point where they can say BEFORE pushing the buy/sell button .... "Should I be trading OR just watching the markets now".

(And miss a successful trade, by just watching, and you might also SEE something that helps you for next trade time, and for many trade times afterwards.)

You can spend weekends (as I did) with a good external "trade simulator" where you can choose a "time in the past" on your chart and then push the go button then watch & observe what price DOES as it heads somewhere, and what it then does when it gets there. (Targets I mean)

all the best V
Pete
So this is basically George's method and adding fib to determine possible targets (which is around Equal Highs and Equal Lows)?

Maybe after all those years of implicative posts somebody has to post charts to remove any assumptions, opinions, non-ending unverified theories, and solidify the concepts by doing it everyday and posting here and thereby refine it to the pip.

Thanks for the contributors.

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Below is the chart of George's latest post.

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I will try to do it now and apply the basic knowledge I understand.
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Some people have asked: "which targets are the market makers going to take out first?".

I think there is a link to George's use of the TMA and BWilliam's Intent that gives him the confidence as to which targets they are highly likely to go for. George and BWilliam both look at the same information and process it differently and yield the same results. George didn't reveal much about the intent as much as BWilliam has tried to show us. I think the use of the TMA has clouded some of us from seeing what George wanted us to see without applying any indicator on the chart. But of course he spoke a lot about the manipulation which goes hand-in-hand with the intent.

Edit: If you want to know more about the Intent go through BWilliam's posts - he posted enough for us to see it.
Thank you for your inputs because this thread has become like an encyclopedia of theories and articulations of nowhere. I will post more charts base on george's concepts
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