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  •  jojofx
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Hello,
thank you mate for allowing everyone to post here. I'm practicing and trading 1m and 5m naked chart for a while now but sometimes i feel like i missing something, i don't know if it's just more confidence or a technical issue. I'm reading and studying this thread to learn more, people like you and JensG are a pearl in this ocean.

May i ask you a couple of things?
1) Do you analyze higher timeframes to realize if you will be on the right side of the micro-trend? Or it's just a feeling due to the micro price action in that zone?

2) Sometimes you talk about slow and speed of price action during live charts. With this you mean the size of the candles or the high activities in a single candle (e.g. how many times a single candle goes up and down)?

Also if it's possible, can you spend 1minute to write the reason of your trade when you post a chart please? Sometimes i can't really understand the reason of some of the charts you post.
I personally i'm sticking to "break and retest" situation like in this chart but as i said, sometimes it turns and i don't realize i need to get out of the trade and i get a lose.

I'm also learning to spot those "fail breakout" in my trades since they look great.

Cheers.
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  •  venividivici
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Hello, thank you mate for allowing everyone to post here. I'm practicing and trading 1m and 5m naked chart for a while now but sometimes i feel like i missing something, i don't know if it's just more confidence or a technical issue. I'm reading and studying this thread to learn more, people like you and JensG are a pearl in this ocean. May i ask you a couple of things? 1) Do you analyze higher timeframes to realize if you will be on the right side of the micro-trend? Or it's just a feeling due to the micro price action in that zone? 2) Sometimes...
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1) Do you analyze higher timeframes to realize if you will be on the right side of the micro-trend? Or it's just a feeling due to the micro price action in that zone?

No, to be honest I look out for channels/trends but im only looking to make a few pips per trade and not hold, so I'm not bothered about analysing trends on a chart too much, I'm more focused on the reversal of the current legs and nearby levels that could disrupt my trade.

2) Sometimes you talk about slow and speed of price action during live charts. With this you mean the size of the candles or the high activities in a single candle (e.g. how many times a single candle goes up and down)?

Yes, watching the activity of a single candle live as it forms, the speed its moving, if the candle is moving fast enough in the direction I want it to go in. (momentum)
 
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  •  jojofx
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{quote} 1) Do you analyze higher timeframes to realize if you will be on the right side of the micro-trend? Or it's just a feeling due to the micro price action in that zone? No, to be honest I look out for channels/trends but im only looking to make a few pips per trade and not hold, so I'm not bothered about analysing trends on a chart too much, I'm more focused on the reversal of the current legs and nearby levels that could disrupt my trade. 2) Sometimes you talk about slow and speed of price action during live charts. With this you mean the...
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Thank you for the reply mate.
Please keep your charts coming, i just love them.

This is the trade i just closed, it was a bit aggressive though. Maybe i should've wait a bit more before open.
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  •  Jaymantos
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I would like to give a few tips here, as I was recently contacted privately, but think this information is better kept public for everyone. General recommendation for all who want to trade like this: Depending on your monitor and field of vision, arrange 3-5 charts from top to bottom on the screen. Jumping back and forth between charts is nonsense, it doesn't work because you lose the feeling for the price action each time. My personal preference: EUR/USD, GBP/USD, USD/CAD, AUD/USD. In addition, there are sometimes small information advantages if...
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No tree, it is said, can grow to heaven unless its roots reach down to hell
 
 
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  •  JensG
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@Jaymantos:

Yes, that looks good. As an additional recommendation, I would add horizontal lines or a grid to make it easier to spot areas that are on a similar price level than the PA you're currently watching.

@jojofx

A higher timeframe doesn't really make sense for what we're doing. Understanding the bigger picture is important, sure. Veni and also I talked about it here before, but our bigger picture is usually visible within the last couple of hours because of the short holding time and not some overarching trend that lasted the last couple of days or even longer. I typically take several trades long and short each day in the pairs I'm trading. The overall direction of the last days, weeks or whatever has no bearing for me, neither does it has an effect on my odds, probability, hell it doesn't even affect my tail risk. We need to understand the current pattern, like is it range, channel or perhaps more of a mean reversion or a completely unpredictable news outbreak. I do, for example, always recommend *beginners* not to take bets against the direction of a channel but to trade with its flow.
 
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  • Dec 8, 2021 4:53am Dec 8, 2021 4:53am
  •  phoenix777
  • | Joined Mar 2018 | Status: finally | 147 Posts
Hi Veni and Jens,

Would you take the same trade?
Where would you put your positive stop loss after price reversing?
My earlier plan is to put SL to BE once it reverses, but as we can see, the price suddenly move against it, which will stop my trade at BE.

On that trade, i close it early after seeing big long leg, which i think tend to be reversed. But i will miss more profit, if the price keep moving down
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  • Dec 8, 2021 8:48am Dec 8, 2021 8:48am
  •  jojofx
  • | Joined Jun 2014 | Status: Member | 212 Posts
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@Jaymantos: Yes, that looks good. As an additional recommendation, I would add horizontal lines or a grid to make it easier to spot areas that are on a similar price level than the PA you're currently watching. @jojofx A higher timeframe doesn't really make sense for what we're doing. Understanding the bigger picture is important, sure. Veni and also I talked about it here before, but our bigger picture is usually visible within the last couple of hours because of the short holding time and not some overarching trend that lasted the last couple...
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Thank you for clarification JensG. It make perfect sense: in few words we need just to "understand" what is going on at the moment on the chart and take advantage of it with the very next trend/micro trend/leg.

@phoenix777 For quite some time i had the same issue: feel remorse for the missing continuation trend. But the essence of scalping is getting in and out to just grab few pips and don't care about the rest. If "missing money" is your issue, one thing that can help is raising the amount of volume/lot you trade such as even 5pips it will result in good money but you need to learn to be profitable first or you will just wipe your account. The best would be just don't care about money because they will come anyway if you learn properly. Even 10 pips a day can make you rich
Another thing you can do is close half of position and then keep the other half to see if the trend continues, from what i saw a lot of times price comes back to our entry point before continuing, maybe because there is where a lot of liquidity is standing.

I'm sure venividivici and JensG can give you more valuable tips.

Cheers.
 
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  • Dec 8, 2021 11:28am Dec 8, 2021 11:28am
  •  venividivici
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Hi Veni and Jens, Would you take the same trade? Where would you put your positive stop loss after price reversing? My earlier plan is to put SL to BE once it reverses, but as we can see, the price suddenly move against it, which will stop my trade at BE. On that trade, i close it early after seeing big long leg, which i think tend to be reversed. But i will miss more profit, if the price keep moving down {image}
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That's how you do it.
 
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  • Dec 8, 2021 1:46pm Dec 8, 2021 1:46pm
  •  JensG
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Hi Veni and Jens, Would you take the same trade? Where would you put your positive stop loss after price reversing? My earlier plan is to put SL to BE once it reverses, but as we can see, the price suddenly move against it, which will stop my trade at BE. On that trade, i close it early after seeing big long leg, which i think tend to be reversed. But i will miss more profit, if the price keep moving down {image}
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I did take this trade this morning. It was on EUR/USD, wasn't it? I put my entry a little bit higher than you to make sure the previous low was safely broken. This was a buy-trade in a downward channel within a downtrend after all. Be that as it may, momentum was on our side and this channel showed good legs in both directions but, because of these circumstances, I decided to not move my SL into positive territory but instead to exit manually. I typically don't bet on channels to be broken, so there is no point in trying and milk it, furthermore, the counter legs of channels typically show plenty of indecisiveness because channels, opposed to ranges, live of market participants seeking an entry in the overall direction. One man's reversal is the other one's opportunity to get in late.
 
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  • Dec 8, 2021 2:06pm Dec 8, 2021 2:06pm
  •  venividivici
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{quote} I did take this trade this morning. It was on EUR/USD, wasn't it? I put my entry a little bit higher than you to make sure the previous low was safely broken. This was a buy-trade in a downward channel within a downtrend after all. Be that as it may, momentum was on our side and this channel showed good legs in both directions but, because of these circumstances, I decided to not move my SL into positive territory but instead to exit manually. I typically don't bet on channels to be broken, so there is no point in trying and milk it, furthermore,...
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I got a bit confused reading this then I realized Jens thought you took a buy trade, I think Jens spotted the wrong thing on the chart, correct me if im wrong so I outlined his trade more clearly. He took the short from the leg with the trend.

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  • Dec 8, 2021 2:16pm Dec 8, 2021 2:16pm
  •  JensG
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Oh indeed, I didn't spot the first arrow. Alf wears glasses ;-) Well, solid trade then! I played the channel on both sides by the way.
 
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  • Dec 8, 2021 8:47pm Dec 8, 2021 8:47pm
  •  phoenix777
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{quote} I got a bit confused reading this then I realized Jens thought you took a buy trade, I think Jens spotted the wrong thing on the chart, correct me if im wrong so I outlined his trade more clearly. He took the short from the leg with the trend. {image}
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Yes, i took the short trade.
Thank you for your confirmation, veni and jens.
 
 
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A leg up was formed and I started to look for opportunities to get in on a reversal, getting in too close to that previous daily high didnt make sense, I would be risking a continuation of a bullish trend, so I waited for price to get back downwards within the earlier range below the days high, with a little bearish momentum whilst looking at the nearest levels (disturbances) to keep me alerted to where I would possibly have to close my trade.
 
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  •  jojofx
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{image}{image}{image} A leg up was formed and I started to look for opportunities to get in on a reversal, getting in too close to that previous daily high didnt make sense, I would be risking a continuation of a bullish trend, so I waited for price to get back downwards within the earlier range below the days high, with a little bearish momentum whilst looking at the nearest levels (disturbances) to keep me alerted to where I would possibly have to close my trade.
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Great trade mate!
I (and i'm sure many others) appreciate the explanation of the reason of why you took the trade.

I'm in this trade right now but it seems market already slowed down and big players waiting for the news "Core CPI" to move the market. Missed few opportunities this morning because i wasn't in front of the screen

EDIT: close at high of the day. +4 pips
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  •  jojofx
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One more trade for me
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  •  gfxchange22
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One more trade for me {image}
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Hi what indicator is that on your chart?
 
 
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  •  jojofx
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{quote} Hi what indicator is that on your chart?
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Hi, that is cTrader platform.
The only indicator i use is the one that draws those dot lines at round numbers.
 
 
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