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  • #5,901
  • Dec 2, 2021 11:11am Dec 2, 2021 11:11am
Quoting MoxFulder
{quote} Kickstart trading and E8 are cousins, evals and prices are very similiar.{image} {image}
So the 250K account is more expensive (as a %) than the 100K. 750 for 100K would be 1875 for 250K. This is the thing that irritates me most, simple tasks that cannot be handled yet we expect them to run a business and be able to pay us.
  • #5,902
  • Dec 2, 2021 11:18am Dec 2, 2021 11:18am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} So the 250K account is more expensive (as a %) than the 100K. 750 for 100K would be 1875 for 250K. This is the thing that irritates me most, simple tasks that cannot be handled yet we expect them to run a business and be able to pay us.
I didn't catch that, they'll probably change it now that you pointed it out.
  • #5,903
  • Dec 2, 2021 11:31am Dec 2, 2021 11:31am
Quoting leosfx
{quote} For mff, I will wait then. I plan my entrance in the challenge very carefully. Cannot afford too many surprises from their end. I am not interested in making a quick buck, but these props' first stage really force us to. Waiting for input from you brave souls about the recently shared ones. I see e8, digital pit...

e8, digital pit etc these are all white labels.
  • #5,904
  • Dec 2, 2021 11:31am Dec 2, 2021 11:31am
Quoting MoxFulder
{quote} Kickstart trading and E8 are cousins, evals and prices are very similiar.{image} {image}

Yes I am seeing a lot of it, not sure how they will hold up if someone actually makes a lot..... lets see. I am starting to get very annoyed by all these white labels popping up and my itchy gambling fingers.
  • #5,905
  • Dec 2, 2021 11:38am Dec 2, 2021 11:38am
Quoting MoxFulder
{quote} Kickstart trading and E8 are cousins, evals and prices are very similiar.{image} {image}

That's Ment Funding though, not E8.
Can't remember if E8 also use EightCap.
  • #5,906
  • Dec 2, 2021 11:39am Dec 2, 2021 11:39am
Quoting Koop
{quote} That's Ment Funding though, not E8. Can't remember if E8 also use EightCap.
it does.
  • #5,907
  • Dec 2, 2021 11:49am Dec 2, 2021 11:49am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} it does.
Ah, definitely a white label then.
Eightcap's even beginning to outdo TCF, the gods of white labeling... Worst of all, all it's WLs are hitting the market around the same time.
  • #5,908
  • Dec 2, 2021 12:09pm Dec 2, 2021 12:09pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} e8, digital pit etc these are all white labels.
Was just starting to do the research. You guys are saving me a lot of time and hassle, thank you.
Wish there was a decent 3rd spot after Ftmo and MFF. Who is your third spot for now Takisd?

Is there even a third spot yet? Incredible to not see any more real serious companies getting into this.
  • #5,909
  • Dec 2, 2021 1:54pm Dec 2, 2021 1:54pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} Ah, definitely a white label then. Eightcap's even beginning to outdo TCF, the gods of white labeling... Worst of all, all it's WLs are hitting the market around the same time.
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  • #5,910
  • Dec 2, 2021 2:10pm Dec 2, 2021 2:10pm
Quoting leosfx
{quote} Was just starting to do the research. You guys are saving me a lot of time and hassle, thank you. Wish there was a decent 3rd spot after Ftmo and MFF. Who is your third spot for now Takisd? Is there even a third spot yet? Incredible to not see any more real serious companies getting into this.

I have thefundetraderprogram or whatever iti s thats blakes at max also. But i dont like it and i dont think it will survive.

The 8cap white labels are all run by FPFX. I am surprised they went as far as going beyond dashboards but yeh. The problem I have is that its 8cap not fpfx, 8cap are shady as fuck.
  • #5,911
  • Dec 2, 2021 2:18pm Dec 2, 2021 2:18pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} I have thefundetraderprogram or whatever iti s thats blakes at max also. But i dont like it and i dont think it will survive. The 8cap white labels are all run by FPFX. I am surprised they went as far as going beyond dashboards but yeh. The problem I have is that its 8cap not fpfx, 8cap are shady as fuck.
What's making you think Blake's (thefundedprogram) isn't going to make it? What don't you like?
  • #5,912
  • Dec 2, 2021 2:21pm Dec 2, 2021 2:21pm
Quoting MoxFulder
{quote} What's making you think Blake's (thefundedprogram) isn't going to make it? What don't you like?

The trading conditions, they seem to also have low numbers of new members, the traffic stats prove that plus there is no way they are executing trades. I think theres a lot of fake shit in the promo stuff too.

When revenues dip they wont survive i think.
  • #5,913
  • Dec 2, 2021 5:40pm Dec 2, 2021 5:40pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} here are spread from my live account with them. I dont have any gripe with trading conditions there.{image}
Thats a nice spread, iirc ftmo have bigger spread, thanks
In the end its just a stupid numbers game
  • #5,914
  • Dec 3, 2021 3:22am Dec 3, 2021 3:22am
"Desire to Trade" host Etienne Crete's recent interview of FPFX founder Justin Hertzberg with interesting info on prop firms using their services.
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  • #5,915
  • Dec 3, 2021 4:09am Dec 3, 2021 4:09am
Good evening traders, comrades,
At the moment im working with ftmo, 2 x 80 k euros accounts, already third month and nothing wrong happened per that period of time.
Thinking of trying fmstraders. Everything looks similar like ftmo, leverage, challenges . But one thing i like more,that no restrictions on news and weekends. Sometimes it sucks to close positions that are not in profit on friday, and going to profit on Monday or tuesday...
Plus in advance, there is opportunity to grow your account up to 1 mil $. That really motivates me lol. As they mention on the site : In order to be eligible to apply for this account you must have 2 payouts from your funded account.: well i guess its possible if stick to the plan .
Did someone try them?
Thanks in advance
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  • #5,916
  • Dec 3, 2021 5:29am Dec 3, 2021 5:29am
New props in the market should, at least, try to show some credibility allowing to pay with Paypal.

A recent company without Paypal is difficult to even consider.
  • #5,917
  • Dec 3, 2021 6:22am Dec 3, 2021 6:22am
Quoting leosfx
So is it still only MFF and FTMO the first two choices for most here who have experience with other prop firms? I appreciate all the thoughts of any poster regarding their favorite 2 prop firms up to now. Me personally, don't have much unique experience to share. I have experience with FTMO alone and most of it is positive, but am looking to grow. Thank you!
Still love myFF - easiest challenge to pass and constantly improving. Yes support can sometimes be slow and the overall experience is not as polished as ftmo. But on getting funded and getting paid - they certainly deliver. The blackfriday discount code of 15% is the icing on the cake.

I agree that there is still no decent 3rd choice of prop firm.
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  • #5,918
  • Dec 3, 2021 9:24am Dec 3, 2021 9:24am
[quote=nebby;13810681]{quote} Still love myFF - easiest challenge to pass and constantly improving. Yes support can sometimes be slow and the overall experience is not as polished as ftmo. But on getting funded and getting paid - they certainly deliver. The blackfriday discount code of 15% is the icing on the cake. I agree that there is still no decent 3rd choice of prop firm.[/quote

What about The Prop Trading?

I haven't heard anything too negative and they have paid out to a few traders I think?
  • #5,919
  • Dec 3, 2021 9:34am Dec 3, 2021 9:34am
[quote=Mtinifx;13811036]
Quoting nebby
{quote} Still love myFF - easiest challenge to pass and constantly improving. Yes support can sometimes be slow and the overall experience is not as polished as ftmo. But on getting funded and getting paid - they certainly deliver. The blackfriday discount code of 15% is the icing on the cake. I agree that there is still no decent 3rd choice of prop firm.[/quote What about The Prop Trading? I haven't heard anything too negative and they have paid out to a few traders I think?

They have that awful lot size limit for a month as a catch all.
  • #5,920
  • Dec 3, 2021 9:50am Dec 3, 2021 9:50am
[quote=Takisd;13811058]
Quoting Mtinifx
{quote} They have that awful lot size limit for a month as a catch all.
If anyone can manage the 3 month long lot size restrictions on the funded account, then TPT takes the number 3 spot. At least till all the new comers can last as long as TPT has.

I would give TCF the no. 4 spot, especially now that they've eliminated their risk review thing... Maybe even 3 since they're older than MFF, but I've seen bigger payouts from TPT guys.

TCF would ask be much better if they ditched all their white Labels and just concentrated their efforts.
No complaints trading with them yet, except for the fact that I would have to ditch the first account i worked my ass off to get if I want to purchase a bigger account balance with the ongoing 30% discount.
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