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  • First Post: Edited Nov 29, 2021 12:00pm Nov 17, 2021 11:30am | Edited Nov 29, 2021 12:00pm
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
Trading can be frustrating especially if you keep getting stopped out and do not find out why. That is why the concept of trading the structure of the market more than appealed to me. Here, your aim is to precisely predict the market turning points from understanding the signals the market gives. Reading Eric T. Jones, James F. Dalton, and Robert B. Dalton's Markets in Profile was very enlightening as the the nature of market movement, explaining the how and why. It is the foundation of all my analysis. I do not use any indicators, seeing as these tell you what's going to happen after it has already happen, and the trade is no longer worth the risk. A strong foundation in candlestick analysis is also required. Here I would recommend the use of Steve Nison's numerous books on the same. I will post a series of trades taken using what I believe is the best system in the world to take trades at the low point in the market and at the highs, unlike anyone else. And hopefully this should be enough to convince you all to delve a little deeper into the market, and hopefully find the answers that are right in front of you... Thanks.
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  • Nov 21, 2021 2:13pm Nov 21, 2021 2:13pm
  •  cliffme
  • | Joined Sep 2015 | Status: Member | 4 Posts
Keep going, super interested on how market profiles could help identify zones or targets in market structure trading.
 
 
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  •  here2there
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...Here, your aim is to precisely predict the market turning points from understanding the signals the market gives...
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I don't believe this is possible. But you are welcome to prove me wrong if you can.

That said, it is important to note that certain candlestick patterns are better for trading than others. Most of them are not even worth bothering with. Furthermore, such candlestick patterns are best used for trading the Daily chart, as they tend to be stronger on this time frame, especially when it comes to turning points.
You don't know because you don't ask.
 
 
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  • Nov 22, 2021 10:18am Nov 22, 2021 10:18am
  •  Winston Reed
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Hobby Trader | 4,477 Posts
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Trading can be frustrating especially if you keep getting stopped out and do not find out why. That is why the concept of trading the structure of the market more than appealed to me. Here, your aim is to precisely predict the market turning points from understanding the signals the market gives. Reading Peter Steidlmayer's Markets in Profile was very enlightening as the the nature of market movement, explaining the how and why. It is the foundation of all my analysis. I do not use any indicators, seeing as these tell you what's going to happen...
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Nice thread! I have most of Nison's books and have always used candlestick patterns to some degree or another in my trading. Markets are fractal so they are equally powerful on all time frames. You need prove nothing to anyone except yourself. Carry on. I'll be following.
 
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  • Nov 22, 2021 11:19am Nov 22, 2021 11:19am
  •  Winston Reed
  • Joined Mar 2009 | Status: Hobby Trader | 4,477 Posts
I highly recommend this thread to supplement your endeavor.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...y-candle-chart
 
 
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  •  Maule
  • | Joined Aug 2016 | Status: Member | 246 Posts
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Trading can be frustrating especially if you keep getting stopped out and do not find out why. That is why the concept of trading the structure of the market more than appealed to me. Here, your aim is to precisely predict the market turning points from understanding the signals the market gives. ... I will post a series of trades taken using what I believe is the best system in the world to take trades at the low point in the market and at the highs, unlike anyone else. And hopefully this should be enough to convince you all to delve a little deeper...
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I see the entry and the SL but no TP. Does your method determine in advance where to Take Profit or do you simply wait for the market to exhaust itself then manually close the trade?
Play the hand you were dealt.
 
 
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  • Nov 26, 2021 5:20am Nov 26, 2021 5:20am
  •  fundednext
  • | Commercial Member | Joined Nov 2021 | 20 Posts
Market structure may be a trend following tool that traders read and follow supported how an asset moves. From bullish moves, to bearish and in between with ranges. Market Structure is usually spoken as Price Action. We seek advice from this study as market structure because it's how the entire market moves.
 
 
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  • Nov 27, 2021 2:54am Nov 27, 2021 2:54am
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
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Keep going, super interested on how market profiles could help identify zones or targets in market structure trading.
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Thanks... Well, they do very well. I cannot share that with you yet it being proprietaty, but i can predict within 10 or 15pips where the market will reverse.
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  • Nov 27, 2021 3:04am Nov 27, 2021 3:04am
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
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{quote} I don't believe this is possible. But you are welcome to prove me wrong if you can. That said, it is important to note that certain candlestick patterns are better for trading than others. Most of them are not even worth bothering with. Furthermore, such candlestick patterns are best used for trading the Daily chart, as they tend to be stronger on this time frame, especially when it comes to turning points.
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HEHEHE... Thanks. I have already proved myself wrong, that's all that matters. But on a more serious note, I have been taking these sorts of trades for over a year now. And it is very precise. Please just take my word for it now. Candlestick patterns work on all timeframes at turning points, otherwise the entire chart would be like a line graph. when the market turns and retraces, there is a candlestick pattern on a lower timeframe, you cannot see on the daily. I prefer H1 because it is more exciting. And this way you can explain each market move, and not chuck it all up to the institutional traders. LOL. Look a little closser, everytime the market turns, there is a pattern, you may not know it, yet, see it a couple more times, and some some more, and the pattern emerges, pretty fun stuff...
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  • Nov 27, 2021 3:09am Nov 27, 2021 3:09am
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
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{quote} Nice thread! I have most of Nison's books and have always used candlestick patterns to some degree or another in my trading. Markets are fractal so they are equally powerful on all time frames. You need prove nothing to anyone except yourself. Carry on. I'll be following.
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Lovely post. This is what first got me thinking. After an illuminating lecture on complex structures, hhehe. If the market is complex and shows fractal patterns, is is not possible to break it down to its most basic form and go from there, well there are about forty different "basic" forms I can see thus fur. But, thanks for the follow. Look forward to catching you here.
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  • Nov 27, 2021 3:13am Nov 27, 2021 3:13am
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
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{quote} I see the entry and the SL but no TP. Does your method determine in advance where to Take Profit or do you simply wait for the market to exhaust itself then manually close the trade?
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Hello there Maule. I do not include these as it would be too much information, it is my propietary trading take on market structure. I do not include the take profit in my screenshots, if i do, they are false. But i know beforehand the turning points. Thanks
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  • Nov 27, 2021 3:14am Nov 27, 2021 3:14am
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
Quoting Winston Reed
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I highly recommend this thread to supplement your endeavor. https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...y-candle-chart
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Hadn't seen this. Thanks reed.
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  • Nov 27, 2021 3:19am Nov 27, 2021 3:19am
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
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Market structure may be a trend following tool that traders read and follow supported how an asset moves. From bullish moves, to bearish and in between with ranges. Market Structure is usually spoken as Price Action. We seek advice from this study as market structure because it's how the entire market moves.
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I couldn't have put it any other way. You are completely correct. Market structures traces an outline onto which the market will flow, it advises you how the trend with propagate. the candlesticks then show you when to enter, at the lows of the market or the highs to reverse the move. They also warn you if the market will return to clear the high/low at which you are sitted, this way, you can tighten your belt, and take an even better trade. Thanks fundednext...
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  • Nov 27, 2021 3:30am Nov 27, 2021 3:30am
  •  warsong
  • | Joined Nov 2017 | Status: Member | 9 Posts
It's threads like this I love to follow. Hope you won't be distracted by naysayers.

Following....
 
 
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  • Nov 27, 2021 3:58am Nov 27, 2021 3:58am
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
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It's threads like this I love to follow. Hope you won't be distracted by naysayers. Following....
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Hehehehehe.... Warsong, I created this profile for myself, and maybe to inspire others. Am so charged nothing can discorage me. I will post more trades next week. Adieu. Hope to cathch you here then... Take care.
Blood, Sweat, and PIPS.
 
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  • Nov 29, 2021 4:34am Nov 29, 2021 4:34am
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
First Trade of the week. And in my opinion, a scalp trade with maybe 50 pips max in it, maybe.
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  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
Second trade of the day..... Was a little "lucky" to catch it at the very beginning of the decline...

This is the prefered market bias so, maybe a hundred pips. Who knows???
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  • Nov 30, 2021 11:21am Nov 30, 2021 11:21am
  •  Pythonxrtg
  • | Joined Jun 2020 | Status: Member | 36 Posts
Very nice trade, 137 pips profit....
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  • Dec 1, 2021 2:12am Dec 1, 2021 2:12am
  •  MCFly
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I'm a bit confused. You wrote "Reading Eric T. Jones, James F. Dalton, and Robert B. Dalton's Markets in Profile was very enlightening as the the nature of market movement, explaining the how and why. It is the foundation of all my analysis. I do not use any indicators,..."

Isn't it mandatory to use a volume profile indicator to trade volume profile?
 
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  • Dec 1, 2021 11:27am Dec 1, 2021 11:27am
  •  Tony111
  • | Joined Oct 2020 | Status: Junior Member | 3 Posts
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Trading can be frustrating especially if you keep getting stopped out and do not find out why. That is why the concept of trading the structure of the market more than appealed to me. Here, your aim is to precisely predict the market turning points from understanding the signals the market gives. Reading Eric T. Jones, James F. Dalton, and Robert B. Dalton's Markets in Profile was very enlightening as the the nature of market movement, explaining the how and why. It is the foundation of all my analysis. I do not use any indicators, seeing as these...
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