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  • #21
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:08pm Nov 12, 2021 3:08pm
Quoting kin78
{quote} The only question I keep asking myself is where are the ICT results? Why do none of the many people who are promoting this content cant show any results? I patiently wait for the Tobias and Parson story.
ZZZ zzz

Do your homework and stop blaming others because you are unable to test it by yourself.

It is pathetic reading people complaining because they are not able to verify a system and demand others to do it for them.

Grow up. If you want a proof, prove it yourself.
  • #22
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:17pm Nov 12, 2021 3:17pm
Besides, the title of this thread reads Institutional Trading SMC, not ICT. And there's a reason for it, despite the fact that I must credit ICT as the most important source of knowledge about this style of trading and as the person who has inspired everything.
  • #23
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:19pm Nov 12, 2021 3:19pm
Quoting scherzi
{quote} ZZZ zzz Do your homework and stop blaming others because you are unable to test it by yourself. It is pathetic reading people complaining because they are not able to verify a system and demand others to do it for them. Grow up. If you want a proof, prove it yourself.
Look I don't want to pick a fight but you should be reading with more comprehension. I have done my homework and the results are clear - ICT concepts are a lot of flash and no bang)

And by suggesting that i should find my own proof shows how hypocritical (bias) you are. If you believe so much that this ICT stuff works, why dont you show me the proof that you have? where are the consistently successful trades?
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  • #24
  • Nov 12, 2021 4:33pm Nov 12, 2021 4:33pm
Quoting kin78
{quote} Look I don't want to pick a fight but you should be reading with more comprehension. I have done my homework and the results are clear - ICT concepts are a lot of flash and no bang) And by suggesting that i should find my own proof shows how hypocritical (bias) you are. If you believe so much that this ICT stuff works, why dont you show me the proof that you have? where are the consistently successful trades?
Kin78 prove the system wrong if you beleive your so right give us the facts. Look what ever system you study it will be your perception of the market. I am not saying other systems dont work. I am saying that does not mean it is how the markets operate. It all about orders and money. For you to call his concepts flash and bang shows your lack of experience.
  • #25
  • Nov 12, 2021 10:50pm Nov 12, 2021 10:50pm
Thank you, Scherzi.....I subscribed immediately,the content is what I study and a combination of various systems.

I probably have all of ICT work on my HD,its the best knowledge one can gain as a trader,I believe it always work from the start (whenever that is lol),can't touch Michael's work too original,when you learn how money flows and follow the central banks only then you're in the game.ForexHoly comments are real and true :-),he speaks from good experience it seems,we can all learn from each other
  • #26
  • Nov 13, 2021 12:47am Nov 13, 2021 12:47am
Quoting kin78
{quote} Look I don't want to pick a fight but you should be reading with more comprehension. I have done my homework and the results are clear - ICT concepts are a lot of flash and no bang) And by suggesting that i should find my own proof shows how hypocritical (bias) you are. If you believe so much that this ICT stuff works, why dont you show me the proof that you have? where are the consistently successful trades?
No, because my only interest is sharing a video course I have. But you focus on my person. About myself, just consider I am the worst trader ever and you won't be disappointed.

Then, thinking I the number one loser in this industry, just go if you wish and watch my contents of you want. This thread is not about the person, but about the course.

And systems are tested with historical data, not live, by the way. In the future, if you wanna test a trading method use either a trading simulator of it is manual. Do not even do it in demo, you need from a few hundred to a few thousand trades to verify it under every market circumstance.

So just consider I am a consistent loser and watch if.you want the course.
  • #27
  • Nov 13, 2021 1:28am Nov 13, 2021 1:28am
Quoting kin78
{quote} The only question I keep asking myself is where are the ICT results? Why do none of the many people who are promoting this content cant show any results? I patiently wait for the Tobias and Parson story.
Firt of all im not ict founder so basicly idk what and how many he earning, but if you have time please look at this he still f ing show off, hahaha
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Using Chaos to Finding Order
  • #28
  • Edited 3:53am Nov 13, 2021 2:53am | Edited 3:53am
I am going to start moderating this group, meaning that repetitive contents trying to flood the thread will be considered as spam.

I am not giving away years of testing and thousands of dollars spent while learning myself to satisfy anyone's curiosity. That information won't be ever offered to the public.

NO MEANS NO

So anyone insisting and pressuring others to do something they do not want to do will be banned without prior notice from this thread. That's it.

Everybody is free to ask for anything here, but once you get your answer, you are not allowed to insist because that causes unnecessary tension on the thread and their participans.

I will be sharing a video shortly on how to test yourself a system. That is part of your work and my course is not oriented to lazy people or individuals who would like others to give them for free one million dollars in cash or even 10 pounds.

Said otherwise, I do not force anyone nor to watch my course that it is free nor test or validate it. So it is completely forbidden on this thread trying to pressure others to do anything. Anyone who cannot appreciate the value of a work like that that is given for free and just it is coming here to defy me or others will be treated as a troll. Anyone being dumb enough to not understand that my purpose is only sharing a course and SMC trading here and that I won't do anything I do not want to do for the only reason that I only do what I want to will be considered a troll. Anyone is free to get its own conclusions about why me or others are not accepting certain demands and that won't change anything because no one is looking for approval here.

Last time I say this, spamming with repetitive contents will lead to a ban.
  • #29
  • Nov 13, 2021 4:44am Nov 13, 2021 4:44am
An image is worth one thousand words, and I have produced a short video on testing. I will create another one in the future.

If you want to save your time, I explain how to use the replay feature of Tradingview and what is the simulator I use actually (SoftFX simulator).

If you still have interest on it, here is a video in "Spanglish". I am not a native English speaker nor live in an area where English is spoken. But if you are, then you will understand the contents.

BASIC BACKTESTING

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  • #30
  • Nov 13, 2021 8:37am Nov 13, 2021 8:37am
its a renamed supply and demand concept, that ict guy is a good marketer
  • #31
  • Edited 9:08am Nov 13, 2021 8:43am | Edited 9:08am
Quoting NateBeruk
its a renamed supply and demand concept, that ict guy is a good marketer
Which is the original strategy then?

Can you pls share the link to the original strategy you say SMC is a renaming of? Maybe the name of the original book if it exists? Which chapter or that presumed original work explains the candle that defines the breaker block for instance?

How would you map the COT hedging programs and SMT divergence within a monthly FVG exact range or the consequent encroachment to the S&D whatever original technique you affirm SMC is a copy of? Which are the "original" concepts that correspond to it?

Can you define what is a reclaimed block? Can you tell us the difference between a liquidity gap and a liquidity void?

Could you maybe share a daily chart of gold and tell us the current IPDA cycle and the last five MM models?

According to your knowledge, could you tell us about last week of TESLA H1, which ICT weekly template is the one Tesla printed?
  • #32
  • Nov 13, 2021 9:17am Nov 13, 2021 9:17am
Quoting Pram808
{quote} Firt of all im not ict founder so basicly idk what and how many he earning, but if you have time please look at this he still f ing show off, hahaha https://youtu.be/IRCcpvXcFQs
Continue to prove how blinded you are by the flash of ICT. Anyone with a modicum of intellect will see just how gullible you are - perfect ICT student material

The only thing that this 'car show' proved is that he made some money. my question remains, did he earn this from trading his concepts?

If yes, it shouldn't be difficult for him to show some trading statements should it?

You do the math:

$150 per month from an average of 400 students for five years. How hard would it be to buy a few cars?
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  • #33
  • Nov 13, 2021 9:19am Nov 13, 2021 9:19am
Quoting scherzi
I am going to start moderating this group, meaning that repetitive contents trying to flood the thread will be considered as spam. I am not giving away years of testing and thousands of dollars spent while learning myself to satisfy anyone's curiosity. That information won't be ever offered to the public. NO MEANS NO So anyone insisting and pressuring others to do something they do not want to do will be banned without prior notice from this thread. That's it. Everybody is free to ask for anything here, but once you get your answer, you are not...
Here's a genuine question:

Of the thousands of dollars that you spent to learning these concepts, how much have you earned from trading them over the years?
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  • #34
  • Nov 13, 2021 9:23am Nov 13, 2021 9:23am
Quoting kin78
{quote} Continue to prove how blinded you are by the flash of ICT. Anyone with a modicum of intellect will see just how gullible you are - perfect ICT student material The only thing that this 'car show' proved is that he made some money. my question remains, did he earn this from trading his concepts? If yes, it shouldn't be difficult for him to show some trading statements should it? You do the math: $150 per month from an average of 400 students for five years. How hard would it be to buy a few cars?
Yes, the car proves nothing. Nor 5000 cars. It could be money from his family he got. Or a rental and a false document.

He could even not be Michael the guy on the video.
  • #35
  • Nov 13, 2021 9:24am Nov 13, 2021 9:24am
Quoting kin78
{quote} Here's a genuine question: Of the thousands of dollars that you spent to learning these concepts, how much have you earned from trading them over the years?
Blocked.
  • #36
  • Edited Nov 14, 2021 5:50am Nov 13, 2021 10:03am | Edited Nov 14, 2021 5:50am
Real-time Paper Trading Random Assets.

I like to trade cryptos without leverage. I look for the most volatile ones and enter the game.

This is and 1-hour live recording doing that using a demo account and showing why HTF and relative price analysis is important.

I am currently using at least m1 for entries for my live account but I really am working to get my entries below the 30seconds mark. The possibilties are really outstanding because your RRR increases exponentially when you start to use multi-timeframe analysis.

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  • #37
  • Nov 13, 2021 10:58am Nov 13, 2021 10:58am
Quoting NateBeruk
its a renamed supply and demand concept, that ict guy is a good marketer
Still waiting for a clarification.
  • #38
  • Nov 13, 2021 12:38pm Nov 13, 2021 12:38pm
Quoting NateBeruk
its a renamed supply and demand concept, that ict guy is a good marketer
I traded Supply and Demand it does have some simular concepts but it is definitly not the same. Order Block trading is a lot more detailed and has many more concepts.
  • #39
  • Nov 13, 2021 12:51pm Nov 13, 2021 12:51pm
Quoting Forexholy
{quote} I traded Supply and Demand it does have some simular concepts but it is definitly not the same. Order Block trading is a lot more detailed and has many more concepts.
Yes, I subscribe it. I also learned S&D years ago and it is more like support and resistance trading.

I must say I have added a lot of stuff to ICT since I started, but not S&D btw. S&D is too simplistic imho.
  • #40
  • Nov 13, 2021 12:52pm Nov 13, 2021 12:52pm
Quoting NateBeruk
its a renamed supply and demand concept, that ict guy is a good marketer
Ok, I am also blocking this user. Sorry.

Please, new users, read the rules of the thread and avoid spamming it.

This thread is not about ICT nor Michael.
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