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  • #5,401
  • Nov 12, 2021 12:30am Nov 12, 2021 12:30am
Quoting Masterrmind
{quote} Yes puppets on a string. No one said they were perfect or going to be around forever, although that would certainly be nice. If you've used them you would likely be happy to a certain extent with the trading conditions they provide. Sure there are little glitches here and there with customer service and support and timing of credentials but things have been seen to be improving. These 2 firms are well ahead of the rest in the retail Prop space as shown by numerous traders here. I don't see too many puppets here, just a group of hard working...
You should not use a public thread to indoctrinate about what is good or bad for the members. What do you know about what is good or bad?

Don't threaten me! I know you can ignore me and will not be able to post here! I don't care, Masterrmind!
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #5,402
  • Nov 12, 2021 1:22am Nov 12, 2021 1:22am
Quoting JotaP
{quote} You should not use a public thread to indoctrinate about what is good or bad for the members. What do you know about what is good or bad? Don't threaten me! I know you can ignore me and will not be able to post here! I don't care, Masterrmind!
Your visual statement that traders who recommend MFF and FTMO are puppets is baseless and infantile at best. This thread is an intellectual sieve through which legitimate prop firms are separated from the spurious ones with sound, logical and experiential proof. Every prop firm is held under a microscope of observation to ascertain their validity. Nothing like pegging a firm good or bad until it has undergone scrutiny. Ignorantly, you call those who sacrificed money, time, huge efforts to arrive at a difficult conclusion as regards the validity of prop firms puppets. Masterrmind already gave you cogent reasons that are contrary to your assertions. Predictably, it is like flotsam on your impenetrable mind, unable to sink. Could you create another thread to clown around?
Fred
  • #5,403
  • Nov 12, 2021 2:47am Nov 12, 2021 2:47am
Quoting Chronus
{quote} Your visual statement that traders who recommend MFF and FTMO are puppets is baseless and infantile at best. This thread is an intellectual sieve through which legitimate prop firms are separated from the spurious ones with sound, logical and experiential proof. Every prop firm is held under a microscope of observation to ascertain their validity. Nothing like pegging a firm good or bad until it has undergone scrutiny. Ignorantly, you call those who sacrificed money, time, huge efforts to arrive at a difficult conclusion as regards the validity...
I know the kind of people that believe are very smart and logical in their assertions. Many of them, usually the dumbest ones, can't resist to verbally call the others stupid or ignorant.
Make a note.
1) Firms can only provide better service when users demand it, not when users are subservient to them.
2) MFF has all ingredients to fail in the short-term, we are already seeing red flags.
3) FTMO, as the market leader, may keep going. But users must demand more and more from them.
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #5,404
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:04am Nov 12, 2021 3:04am
Quoting JotaP
{quote} I know the kind of people that believe are very smart and logical in their assertions. Many of them, usually the dumbest ones, can't resist to verbally call the others stupid or ignorant. Make a note. 1) Firms can only provide better service when users demand it, not when users are subservient to them. 2) MFF has all ingredients to fail in the short-term, we are already seeing red flags. 3) FTMO, as the market leader, may keep going. But users must demand more and more from them.
Why must we demand more, entiled are we ? ( I am not against asking them to improve)

what next, ask FTMO For 95% Of profits?
It's in fear when people show what they truly value.
  • #5,405
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:05am Nov 12, 2021 3:05am
Quoting JotaP
{quote} I know the kind of people that believe are very smart and logical in their assertions. Many of them, usually the dumbest ones, can't resist to verbally call the others stupid or ignorant. Make a note. 1) Firms can only provide better service when users demand it, not when users are subservient to them. 2) MFF has all ingredients to fail in the short-term, we are already seeing red flags. 3) FTMO, as the market leader, may keep going. But users must demand more and more from them.
" 2) MFF has all ingredients to fail in the short-term, we are already seeing red flags." What makes you say this? Have I missed something?

I now have 2 accounts with them and support has improved, any technical failings seem to be corrected very quickly (overnight at least) and they seem to be doing the right things and seem interested in finding real traders to work with.

Hopefully they have taken as much challenge fees from all the degenerate halfwits as they can manage and re-invest that fools gold back into the business support and infastructure.

Long term sustainability depends on finding genuine talent and keeping it (in any business).

......But there is one born every minute who thinks they can buy an EA and make a million with $100.... in 5 days!
  • #5,406
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:08am Nov 12, 2021 3:08am
Quoting ensale
what next, ask FTMO For 95% Of profits
You have to answer this sort of atypical questions that never crossed my mind.

PS: Your English is too bad for someone from the UK. Can you do better?
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #5,407
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:09am Nov 12, 2021 3:09am
Quoting JotaP
{quote} You should not use a public thread to indoctrinate about what is good or bad for the members. What do you know about what is good or bad? Don't threaten me! I know you can ignore me and will not be able to post here! I don't care, Masterrmind!
The only issue here is Mastermind is too kind to deal with clowns like yourself.
Atleast there are 3 profitable traders regularly posts here, I don't blame them if ain't hang around longer.
on a postive roll...
  • #5,408
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:21am Nov 12, 2021 3:21am
Quoting Fagin
{quote} " 2) MFF has all ingredients to fail in the short-term, we are already seeing red flags." What makes you say this? Have I missed something? I now have 2 accounts with them and support has improved, any technical failings seem to be corrected very quickly (overnight at least) and they seem to be doing the right things and seem interested in finding real traders to work with. Hopefully they have taken as much challenge fees from all the degenerate halfwits as they can manage and re-invest that fools gold back into the business support and...
I am also pursuing a 50K challenge with them, just because I like to have field experience, not because I trust them.
I was at 7.5% then had a rebuff. Now, am waiting for an extension or a retry.

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  • #5,409
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:24am Nov 12, 2021 3:24am
Quoting Rmg
{quote} The only issue here is Mastermind is too kind to deal with clowns like yourself. Atleast there are 3 profitable traders regularly posts here, I don't blame them if ain't hang around longer.
I have not seen any profitable trader, the only one that posts Trade Explorers based on Prop Firm is me. I am not using bots either.
Capisce, clown?
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #5,410
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:31am Nov 12, 2021 3:31am
Quoting JotaP
{quote} You should not use a public thread to indoctrinate about what is good or bad for the members. What do you know about what is good or bad? Don't threaten me! I know you can ignore me and will not be able to post here! I don't care, Masterrmind!
This thread is non commercial.

A best thread in whole of forexfactory and that is good for prop firm users in general.

Your reply shows you are negative and want to create bad image for some real good Prop firms.

If you want to promote some other prop firm, you should open a new thread and face questions there.
Intraday only.
  • #5,411
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:38am Nov 12, 2021 3:38am
Quoting JotaP
{quote} . 3) FTMO, as the market leader, may keep going. But users must demand more and more from them.
Totally disagree. There has to be a point a customer becomes content with what a business offers whether it's perfect (in their own mind) or not, especially when they already offer the best, compared to others.
Both parties must compromise on certain conditions so each can be happy with the partnership.
Both customer and Company will have to give up some ground.

You can't demand so much that you eventually push these companies into trying to please you or outdo the competition to the detriment of their business.
Funding Talent is the classic warning tale.

There is hardly anything more to complain about with MFF or FTMO these days. If we can't appreciate that, then I wish y'all luck searching for that unicorn...
For you, it certainly wasn't E8 lol.

And I don't even think they're that bad either. Your standards are probably higher than mine.
  • #5,412
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:46am Nov 12, 2021 3:46am
Quoting navk
{quote} This thread is non commercial. A best thread in whole of forexfactory and that is good for prop firm users in general. Your reply shows you are negative and want to create bad image for some real good Prop firms. If you want to promote some other prop firm, you should open a new thread and face questions there.
Brilliant conclusion!
This thread is Commercial, it is in Commercial Forum. The only person here that has never recommended any Prop Firm is me.
Really funny.
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #5,413
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:49am Nov 12, 2021 3:49am
Quoting Koop
{quote} Totally disagree. There has to be a point a customer becomes content with what a business offers whether it's perfect (in their own mind) or not, especially when they already offer the best, compared to others. Both parties must compromise on certain conditions so each can be happy with the partnership. Both customer and Company will have to give up some ground. You can't demand so much that you eventually push these companies into trying to please you or outdo the competition to the detriment of their business. Funding Talent is the classic...
There is lot of room for improvement, namely in limiting their arbitrary discretionary judgements.
Follow your guts, if you want to lose your money...
  • #5,414
  • Nov 12, 2021 3:52am Nov 12, 2021 3:52am
To the 300-600K funded FTMO & MFF guys trading FX & indices... liquidity is not infinite especially in retail FX, so what kind of position sizes are you filling on live accounts, and what kind of slippage in & out have you personally experienced?
  • #5,415
  • Nov 12, 2021 4:06am Nov 12, 2021 4:06am
From MyForexFunds discord:

Lets talk our phase 1 and 2 bonuses.
We have had numerous people trying to take advantage of the fact phase 1 and 2 are demo accounts and then when they get to live they trade 0.01 10 times to reach payout criteria. They cheat on the demo, don't trade on the live.




What I see here:

We have numerous "prop-firms" trying to take advantage of rookies.
They cheat on the finance industry by going unregulated and setting whatever rule of their pleasure at any time. In the end, they cheat on the client who just obeyed their terms and conditions.
Always ready to help
  • #5,416
  • Nov 12, 2021 4:10am Nov 12, 2021 4:10am
From MyForexFund discord:

..rather than changing our rules that most people abide by, we will limit the bonus value to all...
For this reason we are now adjusting our Phase 1 and 2 bonuses to 2% and 4% of the TARGET VALUE only




That's exactly changing the rules!!! A typical scammer tactic, I tell you first what I do not do, but just after that I do it.
Always ready to help
  • #5,417
  • Nov 12, 2021 4:24am Nov 12, 2021 4:24am
All we can do is face the fact that nothing will be perfect.

From what ive seen with MFF & FTMO they seem pretty good so if your going to pick a firm, why wouldnt you choose them? And if you wouldnt choose them.....then what alternative is there?

Sometimes in life you just have to bend over and take it.......and might even learn to like it! (Metaphoricaly speaking.....)
  • #5,418
  • Nov 12, 2021 4:27am Nov 12, 2021 4:27am
Quoting PaulMF
From MyForexFund discord: ..rather than changing our rules that most people abide by, we will limit the bonus value to all... For this reason we are now adjusting our Phase 1 and 2 bonuses to 2% and 4% of the TARGET VALUE only That's exactly changing the rules!!! A typical scammer tactic, I tell you first what I do not do, but just after that I do it.
No you ignorant dweeb, it's simply a growing business adjusting it's terms and conditions as it continues to gather new information.
If you run a business and notice that there may be some loop holes which unscrupulous customers continue to exploit, you do realize that it would be incredibly stupid of you not to plug them?

Even if no one were to actually be exploiting this bonus thing, I don't see anything wrong with the firm adjusting the offer in a way they see fit and more reasonable.

Stop whining around Paula.


Btw, is there any way to restrict this thread to participation from active prop Traders/Evaluation participants and people genuinely interested in potentially trying props out?
  • #5,419
  • Nov 12, 2021 6:09am Nov 12, 2021 6:09am
Quoting ensale
{quote} Why must we demand more, entiled are we ? ( I am not against asking them to improve) what next, ask FTMO For 95% Of profits?
Precisely.

Improvement is all that we ask

Masterrmind .........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
  • #5,420
  • Nov 12, 2021 6:24am Nov 12, 2021 6:24am
Quoting JotaP
{quote} You should not use a public thread to indoctrinate about what is good or bad for the members. What do you know about what is good or bad? Don't threaten me! I know you can ignore me and will not be able to post here! I don't care, Masterrmind!
Members have always been welcome to voice their opinions provided such opinions are inline with the purpose of this thread.

Post 1 outlines the purpose.

I view your comments as being rather disruptive to the main purpose of the thread.

I suggest you read and re-read members recent posts as they contain many gems.

Masterrmind ..........
Master your Mind then Master your Trades
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