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  • #3,321
  • Aug 30, 2021 11:21am Aug 30, 2021 11:21am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} Well a couple of weeks ago the CEO of FT just said the had payouts of $1.5 million on a two weeks time period.
So? such unfounded claims mean absolutely nothing in reality.

Come on, you're a Commercial member, you should know these things.
  • #3,322
  • Aug 30, 2021 11:27am Aug 30, 2021 11:27am
Quoting Koop
{quote} So? such unfounded claims mean absolutely nothing in reality. Come on, you're a Commercial member, you should know these things.
I am not commercial that is an error of FF here because I was doing a mistake which cannot be reversed as I see. I am only a full-time trader.

To mention FTMO, they had for a long time that BS rule, which was also the most complained statement I read everywhere, of no news trading and no positions over weekend, because FTMO cannot said they are unable to handle it. Now recently they added Swing accounts, why at that time point I ask myself ?
  • #3,323
  • Aug 30, 2021 11:30am Aug 30, 2021 11:30am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} I am not commercial that is an error of FF here because I was doing a mistake which cannot be reversed as I see. I am only a full-time trader. To mention FTMO, they had for a long time that BS rule, which was also the most complained statement I read everywhere, of no news trading and no positions over weekend, because FTMO cannot handle it.

FTMO had a lot of really shit rules in the past. Their swing account is also bullshit, but they only pay 1.5 million out per month and have 3-4x more traffic than FT. They also have a min trading days like a sane company and their conditions have always been tied to a brokers, LMAX, purple trading or thinkmarkets for example. FT's conditions were fucking stupidly insane, clear fraud. I don't remember FTMO every having such fraud. They had horrible tick stuffing and slippage but thats it.
  • #3,324
  • Aug 30, 2021 11:37am Aug 30, 2021 11:37am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} FTMO had a lot of really shit rules in the past. Their swing account is also bullshit, but they only pay 1.5 million out per month and have 3-4x more traffic than FT. They also have a min trading days like a sane company and their conditions have always been tied to a brokers, LMAX, purple trading or thinkmarkets for example. FT's conditions were fucking stupidly insane, clear fraud. I don't remember FTMO every having such fraud. They had horrible tick stuffing and slippage but thats it.
For me it is not that easy to judge. I wanted to stay on facts only which matters the most. I heard also many people complaining about the support of FTMO, they have standardized english answers, and no answers around those questions. I also made the experience of having not been answered. So I can confirm that. And I do not speak czech. You can get in trouble if you have a question to FTMO in english which is out of scope of their already delivered english answers. Just to make an example that FTMO is not the heaven of any prop firms here. At the moment the conditions of FT are still more attractive compared to FTMO.
  • #3,325
  • Aug 30, 2021 11:46am Aug 30, 2021 11:46am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} ...and when you take their (FT) own words that they grew so much recently that changes had to be made ? It makes sense when having view from a certain distance. For me the conditions on FT are still #1, then MFF #2, and FTMO #3. FT just doing some switches to adjust the recent growth of new members. When there is no rule change anymore, then FT would be considered #1 in the prop firm space more clearly, like it was last month in July e.g., when they had best conditions far far away from any competitors. They are still better in conditions...
Well, that's the big one.....payments. FTMO and MFF have zero history of payout issues, meanwhile, FT is denying payouts and changing rules. You cannot change the rules without having trader sign new contract or at least check a box acknowledging new Ts&Cs. There is no way FT is # 1 nor will they ever be number 1. I do this for a living and wouldn't go near them from day 1.
  • #3,326
  • Aug 30, 2021 11:48am Aug 30, 2021 11:48am
Quoting QAndy
{quote} Well a couple of weeks ago the CEO of FT just said the had payouts of $1.5 million on a two weeks time period.
Was that in the same post she said something like "I'm on a private jet, bitches" and then showed a picture of her flabby ass?
  • #3,327
  • Aug 30, 2021 11:55am Aug 30, 2021 11:55am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Was that in the same post she said something like "I'm on a private jet, bitches" and then showed a picture of her flabby ass?
Lmao call it flabby all you want, it has QAnonAndy on his knees licking her feet.
  • #3,328
  • Aug 30, 2021 12:20pm Aug 30, 2021 12:20pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} Lol Are you Trolling? or shilling?
He birthed his first post on FF 5 days ago. Since then he's obsessed with convincing people FT smells like a rose, when its complete dog
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #3,329
  • Aug 30, 2021 1:39pm Aug 30, 2021 1:39pm
https://dt4xtrader.com/instant-fundi...rs/#max-widget

Is this new prop firm..not in my list when I search for prop firm through internet..is it legit?
  • #3,330
  • Aug 30, 2021 1:53pm Aug 30, 2021 1:53pm
Quoting fx11trade
how are spreads compared between ftmo and mff?
anyone?
  • #3,331
  • Aug 30, 2021 1:59pm Aug 30, 2021 1:59pm
Quoting fx11trade
{quote} anyone?
pretty much the same? close on most pairs and either way on most pairs. They are market spreads.
  • #3,332
  • Aug 30, 2021 2:02pm Aug 30, 2021 2:02pm
Quoting QAndy
{quote} For me it is not that easy to judge. I wanted to stay on facts only which matters the most. I heard also many people complaining about the support of FTMO, they have standardized english answers, and no answers around those questions. I also made the experience of having not been answered. So I can confirm that. And I do not speak czech. You can get in trouble if you have a question to FTMO in english which is out of scope of their already delivered english answers. Just to make an example that FTMO is not the heaven of any prop firms here....
Since your brain doesn't seem to be able to accept facts but rather denies the facts and focuses on the same falsity (FT's truthfulness) I am going to assume you work with them in some way/your income is tied to them.

You also come off as a racist, I have argued with FTMO multiple times about many things even said a lot of negatives about them on here when they were tick stuffing, including highly technical things and never has language been the problem. Actually one of their staff I have spoken to isn't even Czech.....

At this point in time, I feel it necessary to ask, "Jessica..... is that you?"
  • #3,333
  • Aug 30, 2021 2:41pm Aug 30, 2021 2:41pm
Quoting jinsen
https://dt4xtrader.com/instant-fundi...rs/#max-widget Is this new prop firm..not in my list when I search for prop firm through internet..is it legit?
started up in 2020, FTMO copycat with terrible communication and bad reviews. Best to stay away.
  • #3,334
  • Aug 30, 2021 2:46pm Aug 30, 2021 2:46pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} started up in 2020, FTMO copycat with terrible communication and bad reviews. Best to stay away.
Ok. Thanks for the heads-up. Was very tempted to try. The profit and DD look feasible.
  • #3,335
  • Aug 30, 2021 3:10pm Aug 30, 2021 3:10pm
Quoting mizi123
{quote} More than you think if you don't wonder i have smell these far more faster than you look at my thread sections {image} {image}
Good to see, Iam not alone in this adventure .
on a postive roll...
  • #3,336
  • Aug 30, 2021 3:17pm Aug 30, 2021 3:17pm
Quoting jinsen
{quote} Ok. Thanks for the heads-up. Was very tempted to try. The profit and DD look feasible.
Still do some research. They didn't have this instant funding option when i checked early this year so maybe things have improved from when there were a bunch of bad reports on a large Prop firm related facebook group.

The conditions seem nice.. better than MFF, 5ers and Buoytrade... But the credibility is something i'd be wary of.
If you have some money to throw away you could always start with the cheapest option.
  • #3,337
  • Aug 30, 2021 3:21pm Aug 30, 2021 3:21pm
Quoting Koop
{quote} Still do some research. They didn't have this instant funding option when i checked early this year so maybe things have improved from when there were a bunch of bad reports on a large Prop firm related facebook group. The conditions seem nice.. better than MFF, 5ers and Buoytrade... But the credibility is something i'd be wary of. If you have some money to throw away you could always start with the cheapest option.
Did someone say gamble?!!!

Does this firm have payout reports? hmmm. .

Edit: Cancel that... max buying power.... yawn
  • #3,338
  • Aug 30, 2021 4:09pm Aug 30, 2021 4:09pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Did someone say gamble?!!! Does this firm have payout reports? hmmm. . Edit: Cancel that... max buying power.... yawn
Wait, i didn't see anything about max buying power. Just checked again, still didn't.
That would be a big blufx no no.
  • #3,339
  • Aug 30, 2021 4:29pm Aug 30, 2021 4:29pm
Regarding FTMO one can go much cheaper with Kieran on traderseed.io and save most of the FTMO fees and in addition $300k buying power can be added to FTMO(s $400k BP, so in total $700k BP). For FTMO going over Kieran could be the best option, he introduces to FTMO officially.
  • #3,340
  • Aug 30, 2021 4:41pm Aug 30, 2021 4:41pm
Hi guys
I've read through most of the posts. You rock !!!
Mastermind thx for starting it.

I want to test FTMO, MFF, and FT (but smaller account as I they have issues with bigger payouts). Would like to have one more to test, but will wait to see my progress with those guys

Yes - this is my first post and this thread is the only reason I joined here so I can share my experience as well
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