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  • #1,001
  • Jul 22, 2021 7:31am Jul 22, 2021 7:31am
Hey @ All,

hope you are doing well My real account is running hot, when they are publishing news, could we ask EZB to release statements every day?

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The profit factor reprensts trading after my liquidation in April, it is not 100% produced by automated trading, I used the hot buttons a couple of times when I had a strong guess where EURUSD is going...Purely automated I would expect the PF to be in the area of 2,4ish...I am trading with an european broker beeing blessed to be profession client with a leverage of 1:400, spread is in average 0,1 pip and I pay 3 € per Lot comission. Swap rates are real good, so far I am plus swap for this year. Choosing a good broker is essential when trading Icarus as aggessiv as I do, as you can see the turnover this year is close to 500 Lots equals 50 Mio EUR...

Sry for beeing so passiv here the last months, my job is giving me crazy workloads at the moment and the weekend is reserved for my GF, family and friends, I hope you understand.

I am still having plans to start a Youtube on this project, most likley I will do so end of the year...

Thanks to you all for beeing part of this thread, you made it now allready greater than I ever could imagin, and this, my friends, was just the start...

If you want to watch my real account perform, subscribe me and I will do the same, it is only shown to my buddies here on FF...

Cheers to all of you
Green pips 2 all of us!
  • #1,002
  • Edited 10:30pm Jul 22, 2021 10:13pm | Edited 10:30pm
Hi mr @TeChaoLiang I forward test EA for few days and I thought that I completely understand how Robin works, but now when I see closed trades, there are some weird trades, they all quickly close in loss and have 0.3 lot size (my settings 0.1 lot, hedge multiply 2), is this a bug? in picture below, 0.3 lot trade started (when virtual TP reached I guess?) and then closed at the same time with a 0.1 lot win trade (at profit lock?), right after that is a new 0.1 trade follow the trend. If this is a function, can you tell me how to turn it off
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Another thing, I want to test Robin with virtual SL bigger than TP, ATR on, is there any way to do that beside rewrite mql4 code? Thank
  • #1,003
  • Jul 22, 2021 10:32pm Jul 22, 2021 10:32pm
Quoting TDV
Hi mr @TeChaoLiang I forward test EA for few days and I thought that I completely understand how Robin works, but now when I see closed trades, there are some weird trades, they all quickly close in loss and have 0.3 lot size (my settings 0.1 lot, hedge multiply 2), is this a bug? in picture below, 0.3 lot trade started (when virtual TP reached I guess?) and then closed at the same time with a 0.1 lot win trade (at profit lock?), right after that is a new 0.1 trade follow the trend. If this is a function, can you tell me how to turn it off {image}...
Show me your trade as well as Account history, so that I can figure out why there is a 0.3 lots trade.
  • #1,004
  • Jul 23, 2021 12:36am Jul 23, 2021 12:36am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} Show me your trade as well as Account history, so that I can figure out why there is a 0.3 lots trade.
here they are sir:
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  • #1,005
  • Jul 23, 2021 4:43am Jul 23, 2021 4:43am
Quoting TDV
{quote} here they are sir: {image}{image}zoom in: {image}
The 0.3 lots should be a profit chasing position. I think you had set No. of orders with the trend to 3 but not 1 or 2. Would you also upload the settings file .set ?
If you don't like this feature, you can set No. of orders with the trend to 0 or just set profit_lock to 1.
  • #1,006
  • Jul 23, 2021 4:54am Jul 23, 2021 4:54am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} The 0.3 lots should be a profit chasing position. I think you had set No. of orders with the trend to 3 but not 1 or 2. Would you also upload the settings file .set ? If you don't like this feature, you can set No. of orders with the trend to 0 or just set profit_lock to 1.
yes, I set it 3
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  • #1,007
  • Jul 23, 2021 5:11am Jul 23, 2021 5:11am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} The 0.3 lots should be a profit chasing position. I think you had set No. of orders with the trend to 3 but not 1 or 2. Would you also upload the settings file .set ? If you don't like this feature, you can set No. of orders with the trend to 0 or just set profit_lock to 1.
Orders with the trend are 0.1 lot orders instantly open after previous order take profit, right? So what are 0.3 lots order for, Robin close it with few pips loss then open new follow trend 0.1 lot order, sorry I dont get the logic here.
  • #1,008
  • Edited 6:19am Jul 23, 2021 6:02am | Edited 6:19am
Quoting TDV
{quote} Orders with the trend are 0.1 lot orders instantly open after previous order take profit, right? So what are 0.3 lots order for, Robin close it with few pips loss then open new follow trend 0.1 lot order, sorry I dont get the logic here.
orders_follows=3 is your setting. That's why 0.3 lots. (3*0.1 = 0.3)
It means you use triple lots of min lots to chasing the profit. The following part of codes is using buy positions as an example to explain the logic to you, I commend the explanation as red.

// CASE 2.1 >>> We reach Take Profit so we activate profit lock
if(buy_max_profit==0 && total_buy_profit>CalculateTP(buy_lots[0])) //Reach virtual TP
{
buy_max_profit=total_buy_profit; //Set Max profit so far
buy_close_profit=profit_lock*buy_max_profit; //Calculate close profit by profit lock
if (!Buy_Chased[buys-1] && orders_follows>0) //Perform profit chasing
{
if (buys<max_open_positions && buys<max_positions)
ticket=OrderSendReliable(Symbol(),OP_BUY,orders_follows*CalculateStartingVolume(),Ask,slippage,0,0,key,magic,0,Blue);
Buy_Chased[buys-1] = true;
return;
}
}
// CASE 2.2 >>> Profit locked is updated in real time When continue in profit, update max profit and close profit
if(buy_max_profit>0)
{
if(total_buy_profit>buy_max_profit)
{
buy_max_profit=total_buy_profit;
buy_close_profit=profit_lock*buy_max_profit;
}
}
// CASE 2.3 >>> If profit falls below profit locked we close all orders
if(buy_max_profit>0 && buy_close_profit>0 && buy_max_profit>=buy_close_profit && total_buy_profit<buy_close_profit) //Close positions in profit
{
if (total_buy_profit+total_sell_profit>0) CloseAllSells();
CloseAllBuys();
Buy_Chased[buys-1] = false;
With_Buy[buys-1] = false;
return;
}

If you don't like to chase the profit, just set profit lock to 1, then when virtual TP is reached the order is close immediately. Or you can set orders_follows=0 (that is "No. of orders with the trend" in your input settings), and the EA will send a zero lots fail order, the error message will be shown in your journal but no harm to the EA running.
All the answers of your questions are in the source code, please take time try to read it.
  • #1,009
  • Edited 7:30am Jul 23, 2021 7:09am | Edited 7:30am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} orders_follows=3 is your setting. That's why 0.3 lots. (3*0.1 = 0.3) It means you use triple lots of min lots to chasing the profit. The following part of codes is using buy positions as an example to explain the logic to you, I commend the explanation as red. // CASE 2.1 >>> We reach Take Profit so we activate profit lock if(buy_max_profit==0 && total_buy_profit>CalculateTP(buy_lots[0])) //Reach virtual TP { buy_max_profit=total_buy_profit; //Set Max profit so far buy_close_profit=profit_lock*buy_max_profit; //Calculate close profit by...



Dear Mr. TeChaoLiang
Can you provide the conditions for me to use the expert buttons when using the Meta 4 tester?



I did some tests on Robin and IKarus experts and I will upload the result.
But I realized that without using their control buttons, it is practically impossible to measure the real situation.


In some cases, the expert makes a lot of profit based on the settings that the user has to manage and save the profit, but this possibility does not exist in the tester and the buttons do not work.
And in some cases, which can easily prevent Express from entering the red zone, this is still not possible

Also, it would be great if you put the option for emergency exit in the settings (in both experts). (with Trure Or false)
For example, when you reach the required risk and the buttons turn yellow or red, close all positions and start again.



The first and second photos are for Icarus_M_3 2
And the second result for Rabin 2.7
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  • #1,010
  • Edited 7:49am Jul 23, 2021 7:38am | Edited 7:49am
Quoting sobhan
{quote} Dear Mr. TeChaoLiang Can you provide the conditions for me to use the expert buttons when using the Meta 4 tester?
There is no way to use the buttons when you are running back test. The buttons only effected when you running forward test.
When you running a forward test or even on a live account, if you want put position in, you had better use the buttons or your position put won't have a magic number for the EA to take over control. But if you just want to close positions, you can directly close it from your MT4 terminal without using the close buttons. A closed position doesn't need the EA to take care, however, an open position needs the EA to follow up.
  • #1,011
  • Edited 8:02am Jul 23, 2021 7:52am | Edited 8:02am
2.23 do not support backup forces (EURUSD.i)
I'm testing another platform today.

This is the VPS result 2.23 from April to today
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  • #1,012
  • Jul 23, 2021 8:01am Jul 23, 2021 8:01am
Quoting sobhan
{quote} Also, it would be great if you put the option for emergency exit in the settings (in both experts). (with Trure Or false) For example, when you reach the required risk and the buttons turn yellow or red, close all positions and start again. The first and second photos are for Icarus_M_3 2 And the second result for Rabin 2.7
How to define the required risk? You can use Equity_Warning as a risk alert, the smaller the value is the sooner the Alert Red shown. Then you can stop the EA manually from your MT4 terminal.
Equity_Warning = 0.2 means the equity is 20% off from your initial deposit money.
  • #1,013
  • Edited 9:05am Jul 23, 2021 8:11am | Edited 9:05am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} There is no way to use the buttons when you are running back test. The buttons only effected when you running forward test. When you running a forward test or even on a live account, if you want put position in, you had better use the buttons or your position put won't have a magic number for the EA to take over control. But if you just want to close positions, you can directly close it from your MT4 terminal without using the close buttons. A closed position doesn't need the EA to take care, however, an open position needs the EA to follow...

Is there an alternative?

For example, there should be a section in the settings where it can be said that whenever the maximum number is reached and it was in profit, it will automatically close the positions or close it at a loss.

I saw an expert who used the typing option to use buttons during testing
I will put the link to that expert. And if I find a video on how to use it, I will send it to you
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...4#post10293664





To understand the performance of Express, it is necessary to use all its control capabilities in backtest conditions.
I have been experimenting with various experts for a long time. Sometimes an expert makes a profit for two years in a row and finally blows up your account in a month. So it will be dangerous.
Live Market Testing (demo or real) offers few opportunities and options to explore.



The point I found in testing the various Grid system experts was that one of the key to their success was having the right risk with Rivard.

If your failure in Expert is more than your victory, Expert will not be useful
And if your chances of winning with a small profit are greater than the number of times you lose with a big loss, the expert still has no chance of success.
  • #1,014
  • Jul 23, 2021 10:41am Jul 23, 2021 10:41am
Quoting MaPi
Hey @ All, hope you are doing well My real account is running hot, when they are publishing news, could we ask EZB to release statements every day? {image} The profit factor reprensts trading after my liquidation in April, it is not 100% produced by automated trading, I used the hot buttons a couple of times when I had a strong guess where EURUSD is going...Purely automated I would expect the PF to be in the area of 2,4ish...I am trading with an european broker beeing blessed to be profession client with a leverage of 1:400, spread...

Please share this indicator
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  • #1,015
  • Jul 23, 2021 11:43am Jul 23, 2021 11:43am
ok i am sharing my results...
i am trading with dax... robot icarus...
it happens big draw down when the dax go short or log many points.
i started scratch demo with 10k eur. the draw down was
max 6k eur thwn the balance was 12k.
sometimes i let all sell orders to close and stay waiting
that the price come up... not completely automated so...
i have icmarkets demo account.
leverage 1.30.
i am not going to put this in real.....
bye bye to all.
  • #1,016
  • Jul 24, 2021 5:36am Jul 24, 2021 5:36am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} How to define the required risk? You can use Equity_Warning as a risk alert, the smaller the value is the sooner the Alert Red shown. Then you can stop the EA manually from your MT4 terminal. Equity_Warning = 0.2 means the equity is 20% off from your initial deposit money.

Dear Mr. TeChaoLiang


An important issue is using the clock setting in Expert
For example, when you set the start of the expert work at 8 am and the end at 1 pm, when the expert arrives at 1 pm, it stops completely.
This means that if you have a game cycle, it will be released
I think it is better to continue the last cycle to get results. Not to stop completely
  • #1,017
  • Jul 24, 2021 5:02pm Jul 24, 2021 5:02pm
Quoting sobhan
{quote} Dear Mr. TeChaoLiang An important issue is using the clock setting in Expert For example, when you set the start of the expert work at 8 am and the end at 1 pm, when the expert arrives at 1 pm, it stops completely. This means that if you have a game cycle, it will be released I think it is better to continue the last cycle to get results. Not to stop completely
An alternative choice is just stop initiating any new cycles, the not closed remaining cycles will still under managing of Robin. Which means, Robin will still putting orders to chase the profit and will still putting necessary hedging orders and doing hedge management till positions are all closed.

Attached is the alternative choice version.

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  • #1,018
  • Jul 25, 2021 7:56am Jul 25, 2021 7:56am
Hello

Just wanted to say a big thanks to MaPi; Icarus & TeChaoLiang; Robin

I have been back testing Icarus and will now forward test on a demo acc to see how it performs

Cheers
M
  • #1,019
  • Jul 25, 2021 1:23pm Jul 25, 2021 1:23pm
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} An alternative choice is just stop initiating any new cycles, the not closed remaining cycles will still under managing of Robin. Which means, Robin will still putting orders to chase the profit and will still putting necessary hedging orders and doing hedge management till positions are all closed. Attached is the alternative choice version. {file}{file}

Dear Mr. TeChaoLiang
Is there a problem with these codes? (Icarus_M_3.2 Timing)
In the section related to Sell , Buy conditions are entered
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  • #1,020
  • Jul 25, 2021 1:26pm Jul 25, 2021 1:26pm
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} An alternative choice is just stop initiating any new cycles, the not closed remaining cycles will still under managing of Robin. Which means, Robin will still putting orders to chase the profit and will still putting necessary hedging orders and doing hedge management till positions are all closed. Attached is the alternative choice version. {file}{file}

That's great
thanks a lot



May I ask you to make this change on Icarus as well? (Icarus_M_3.2 Timing)
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