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  • #841
  • Jun 8, 2021 8:00am Jun 8, 2021 8:00am
Quoting sanatan
Currently, I'm backtesting Robin 2.5 with various parameters through trial and error. However, some positions will not be settled. {image}{image} If you don't change the specifications so that you can close the position early, you will end up with a big loss. Please change the specifications so that you can settle when you make a profit.
Yes. This is what happened to me. Right now I can't use my VPS to run Robin overnight because of this one. It didn't stop the order even you put TP value. It just keep doing what happened to you. I'm afraid that if ea open order, I can't close it and need to stop the auto trading and wait for tomorrow and run ea again. If we can get the setting or new update, that will be good.
  • #842
  • Jun 8, 2021 8:04am Jun 8, 2021 8:04am
Quoting Aworex
I have this tool that can preserve profits once the floating balance reaches a defined amount specified in an account. Some might find it useful , I use it on my live accounts to take profits {file}
I know that tool, itīs cool, but it is not needed with the EA...Icarus has every function, you only need understand how it works (everything is explained in the first post, if you are missing information and let me know) and understand what your settings mean to the EA. If you donīt understand this I highly advise you NOT to trade with any EA on a real account...Cheers
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  • #843
  • Jun 8, 2021 8:06am Jun 8, 2021 8:06am
Quoting limevanilla
{quote} I use Robin 2.5, there is no comment or information at my left side. So, I put the Icarus back just want to check what is the Profit Locked actually is. I can see that if I put it 1.0 = it's said 100%. That mean, whenever my trade reach the TP, it will stop the trade right? No more modifying my order. For example, my take_profit is 15 and my profit_locked is 1.0. And what is the minimum profit lock value?
Hi, I never tried 100% but in theory this would be what I would expec to happen...Cheers
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  • #844
  • Edited 11:08am Jun 8, 2021 8:23am | Edited 11:08am
Quoting MaPi
{quote} Hi, I never tried 100% but in theory this would be what I would expec to happen...Cheers
Thanks for your reply. I test it right now and waiting for the tp reach and want to see what will happen after that. If it still not going what we expect, I will update back to you. And by the way, can you let us know, what is the minimum profit value?

Edit: After make some test for profit_locked with 1.0 or same value with take_profits and higher than that, it's seem like Icarus_2.2.4_modified, Icarus_M_3.2, Robin 2.5 didn't work. I'm testing with backtest and also 1 pair demo and live account, it confirm that we have close the order manually.
  • #845
  • Edited 5:08pm Jun 8, 2021 4:28pm | Edited 5:08pm
Quoting limevanilla
{quote} Edit: After make some test for profit_locked with 1.0 or same value with take_profits and higher than that, it's seem like Icarus_2.2.4_modified, Icarus_M_3.2, Robin 2.5 didn't work. I'm testing with backtest and also 1 pair demo and live account, it confirm that we have close the order manually.
All versions of Icarus and Robin won't work because the original code of closing a cycle is:
if(buy_max_profit>0 && buy_close_profit>0 && buy_max_profit>buy_close_profit && total_buy_profit<buy_close_profit)

You set profit_lock to 1.0 will make buy_max_profit equal to buy_close_profit. That is, the closing cycle condition never satisfied. If we think it is a bug, the bug is from the original code of Icarus. I did not examine carefully of its original codes, because I believe they should be bugs free.
You can set profit_lock to 0.9999 and the profitable positions will be all closed.

I can change "buy_max_profit>buy_close_profit" to "buy_max_profit>=buy_close_profit" to modify it if we think it is necessary, perhaps in the next versions.
  • #846
  • Edited Jun 9, 2021 12:40am Jun 8, 2021 8:21pm | Edited Jun 9, 2021 12:40am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} All versions of Icarus and Robin won't work because the original code of closing a cycle is: if(buy_max_profit>0 && buy_close_profit>0 && buy_max_profit>buy_close_profit && total_buy_profit<buy_close_profit) You set profit_lock to 1.0 will make buy_max_profit equal to buy_close_profit. That is, the closing cycle condition never satisfied. If we think it is a bug, the bug is from the original code of Icarus. I did not examine carefully of its original codes, because I believe they should be bugs free. You can set profit_lock to 0.9999 and...
Thanks for your reply. I will try to set the profit_lock to 0.9999 as suggest and will update to you back if it work or not.

Edit: Just want to update, it's work. Already test and the result come good. And by the way, just to let know to anyone trade with gold/xauusd. If you use default setting where take_profit = 8.0 with min_lots = 0.1, the profit you will take is USD 0.80. I'm calculating using this website to calculate my gold profit and put the pips inside take_profit value.
  • #847
  • Jun 9, 2021 2:26am Jun 9, 2021 2:26am
Hi TeChaoLiang,

I was trying to initiate a manual Buy and Sell using the Robin 2.5 EA but noticed these messages in the journal, Am I doing anything wrong...
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  • #848
  • Edited 4:35am Jun 9, 2021 3:51am | Edited 4:35am
Quoting Aworex
Hi TeChaoLiang, I was trying to initiate a manual Buy and Sell using the Robin 2.5 EA but noticed these messages in the journal, Am I doing anything wrong... {image}
No, You do nothing wrong. I remember it happened before when I modify forcing Icarus into yellow alert for MaPi. It seems to be a bug in original codes of Icarus. I'll try to fix it soon.

The reason is when you manually buy or sell at the beginning, there is no buy or sell cycles exist, but the EA is using lots of the first position as the min_lots to open position. That's why an order send error occurs because a 0 lots order sent. By modifying to using variable of min_lots not using buy_lot[0] or sell_lots[0], the problem solved. New modified version is attached, but I do not change the version number. I will also update to the previous post.
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File Type: ex4 Icarus_M.2.5.ex4   161 KB | 424 downloads
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File Type: mq4 Icarus_M.2.5.mq4   243 KB | 535 downloads
  • #849
  • Edited 4:42am Jun 9, 2021 4:13am | Edited 4:42am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
Robin 2.5 Here is a new version of Robin, Robin 2.5. This version of Robin will handle another two hedging cycle for dealing with hedging positions. When a hedging position achieve its hedging purpose, that is, BE to the loss position it hedged, will start to do a profit lock. When a hedging position reaches its SL, the hedging position will be closed. When the loss position reaches its SL again, another hedging position will be put. {image} You can set the Multiplier of hedging lots to set the lots of hedging. Also, you have to tuning the ATR settings...
Owing to fact that I don't know why I cannot edit post #820. The modification of Robin 2.5 is attached here. It fixed manually open a position with a 0 lots bug in the original codes of Icarus. I had fixed the problem in Icarus but forgot to fix the same code segment in Robin.

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File Type: ex4 Robin_2.5.ex4   145 KB | 394 downloads
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File Type: mq4 Robin_2.5.mq4   238 KB | 501 downloads
  • #850
  • Jun 9, 2021 4:24am Jun 9, 2021 4:24am
Thanks
  • #851
  • Edited 5:34am Jun 9, 2021 5:22am | Edited 5:34am

Please Stop Asking What is The Best Settings


The most important settings of a grid trading system is you have to find out an appropriate grid to trade. Do not think or even believe the default settings of the EAs.
The default settings only serve a purpose that I can examine whether or not the EA is work as it is designed. For example, I set each hedging position of 2.0 of min_lots and chasing profit positions to 4.0 min_lots, only for the purpose of I can examine the testing result to find out if it is work as supposed. It means not a best or even a better settings. Also, the ATR for grid size settings, I only to make sure the grid can be dynamically determined via the time frame, periods, and the multiplier.
You have to find out a better or a best settings for you, I only can assure that you can tune an appropriate grid side for you via the settings.
I encourage all of you trying to find various settings to different symbols and/or different situations and sharing your best practice here.
So, please do not ask what is the best settings but share your findings here.

Cheers to ALL
  • #852
  • Jun 9, 2021 6:02am Jun 9, 2021 6:02am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
Please Stop Asking What is The Best Settings The most important settings of a grid trading system is you have to find out an appropriate grid to trade. Do not think or even believe the default settings of the EAs. The default settings only serve a purpose that I can examine whether or not the EA is work as it is designed. For example, I set each hedging position of 2.0 of min_lots and chasing profit positions to 4.0 min_lots, only for the purpose of I can examine the testing result to find out if it is work as supposed. It means not a best or even...
I am 100% with you ! C H E E R S
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  • #853
  • Jun 9, 2021 6:15am Jun 9, 2021 6:15am

How to tune grid trading EAs in this thread


Suppose you have a better indicators trigger setting for you. As I mentioned before, when to enter is not so important to grid trading logic.
Then you can disable ATR for grid size first, run back test with the grid size and the TP as variables to be optimized.
When you can pick settings from the optimization result, save the settings for future comparison.
Then you can enable ATR for grid size and tuning the settings compare to the optimized results. If you find a setting of ATR with the result better than the optimized result, then you possibly have found a better settings of ATR for dynamically decide a appropriate grid size.
The tuning process take time, but you have to spend time to do this.
  • #854
  • Jun 9, 2021 11:50am Jun 9, 2021 11:50am
I need help please,on my side the EA is working very well,but its not closing trade in profit..Will i close the trade manually from my end or its the EA that will close the trade when in profit..Help a soul..am using a real account..
  • #855
  • Jun 9, 2021 12:52pm Jun 9, 2021 12:52pm
Quoting Fancysegs
I need help please,on my side the EA is working very well,but its not closing trade in profit..Will i close the trade manually from my end or its the EA that will close the trade when in profit..Help a soul..am using a real account..
Set your profit_lock to 0.9999
  • #856
  • Jun 9, 2021 8:37pm Jun 9, 2021 8:37pm
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} Owing to fact that I don't know why I cannot edit post #820. The modification of Robin 2.5 is attached here. It fixed manually open a position with a 0 lots bug in the original codes of Icarus. I had fixed the problem in Icarus but forgot to fix the same code segment in Robin. {file}{file}
Does Robin have a facility to use the Ea to handle different strategies like the one based on ADR such as below:
(a) ticks variation based on per second. 32 ticks or 64 ticks etc.
(B) draw mtf ADR band
(C) Semaphore with different settings for 9 TFs. with offsets enough to enlarge band display even on 1 m chart frame

Semaphore is a dynamic value changer or repainter. This is only to give an idea of top and bottoms for trader to decide when to enter or exit. It is for timing and selection of direction to trade.

Manually, you have to be quick in trading. EA will help enter and exit trades with a lightening speed.

Can EA make direct use of semaphore or zig zags or even ADR bands to decide on direction by itself ?
Practice makes a person perfect
  • #857
  • Jun 10, 2021 12:02am Jun 10, 2021 12:02am
Quoting simnz
{quote} (a) ticks variation based on per second. 32 ticks or 64 ticks etc.
I think EA can calculate ticks variation.
Quoting simnz
{quote}(B) draw mtf ADR band
If you offer me an indicator of ADR that can draw mtf ADR band, EA can then read the value of the band. But EA can not draw anything on the chart window.
Quoting simnz
{quote} (C) Semaphore with different settings for 9 TFs. with offsets enough to enlarge band display even on 1 m chart frame
Semaphore is a message that an indicator generate. EA can not read such message from the indicator. EA can only read value in the indicator buffers.
Quoting simnz
{quote} Can EA make direct use of semaphore or zig zags or even ADR bands to decide on direction by itself ?
Once an indicator draw something on the chart window, the value of the indicator drawing can be read by EA.

It is a long way to me. Firstly, I need a mq4 file of ADR indicator that can draw mtf ADR band. If no such mq4 file available, means I have to code an ADR indicator in advance. Also, you have to define semaphore to me. EA can not read semaphore from the chart window. Because indicators and EA each has its own running thread the only interface between them is EA read data from the indicator buffers of the indicator. Indicator buffers is used for indicator to draw something on the chart window.
  • #858
  • Jun 10, 2021 12:16am Jun 10, 2021 12:16am
Quoting TeChaoLiang
{quote} I think EA can calculate ticks variation. {quote} If you offer me an indicator of ADR that can draw mtf ADR band, EA can then read the value of the band. But EA can not draw anything on the chart window. {quote} Semaphore is a message that an indicator generate. EA can not read such message from the indicator. EA can only read value in the indicator buffers. {quote} Once an indicator draw something on the chart window, the value of the indicator drawing can be read by EA. It is a long way to me. Firstly, I need a mq4 file of ADR indicator...
Ok. I attach

4 TF semaphore. You may give choice of using closed candle or current candle for generating entry)
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File Type: mq4 4 Level ZZ Semafor alerts.mq4   33 KB | 444 downloads
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  • #859
  • Jun 10, 2021 12:32am Jun 10, 2021 12:32am
ADR attached
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File Type: mq4 Average Daily Range - V4.01 (1).mq4   14 KB | 507 downloads
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  • #860
  • Jun 10, 2021 12:35am Jun 10, 2021 12:35am
I think EA can be programmed to print ADR and 4 TF fractals on the chart .
It may be a good idea to do so for a person like me who does not know how to read mql or do backtesting to confirm if the EA is working well.
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