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  • #1
  • First Post: Mar 16, 2021 5:42am Mar 16, 2021 5:42am
I am pretty sure most successful traders are very selective with what they share on forums like ours. Nevertheless does somene like to talk about the hidden numbers in the fx market. Have you come up with with a formula that changed your game radically? What can we find if we dig deep into the numbers, how to get there, what to look for? I am asking only about formulas based on the bid/ask of a single instrument. No currency meters, tick or future volumes, fundamental values etc.. What can we find in just the sequence of quote digits printed on a chart, or not on a chart? Is there really any form of "secret" that can be discovered? Any ideas ?
  • #2
  • Mar 16, 2021 9:48am Mar 16, 2021 9:48am
What do I get in return for revealing these secrets?

Crucial Point Forex Secret
3+9+3+3+9+1+3 96952 66956 153952

31 31 32 25

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  • #3
  • Mar 16, 2021 10:24am Mar 16, 2021 10:24am
Quoting blob
What do I get in return for revealing these secrets? Crucial Point Forex Secret 3+9+3+3+9+1+3 96952 66956 153952 31 31 32 25 4 4 5 7 {image} {image} {image}
Hello. Thanks for participating. You always get something in return but not always straight away and many times not in the way you expect.
Now to the numbers you posted, can you give some example of the practical application of that when you trade? I may lack a few points of iq to just get it of that number sequence.
  • #4
  • Mar 16, 2021 11:49am Mar 16, 2021 11:49am
Quoting feline207
What can we find if we dig deep into the numbers, how to get there, what to look for?
Have you dug into the numbers? and what did you find?

Quoting feline207
I am asking only about formulas based on the bid/ask of a single instrument.
Do you have any formulas yourself?

Quoting feline207
Is there really any form of "secret" that can be discovered? Any ideas ?
I think you gonna have to be a Math Nerd before diving into numbers. Are you a Math Nerd?

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  • #5
  • Mar 17, 2021 9:16am Mar 17, 2021 9:16am
Quoting blob
{quote} Have you dug into the numbers? and what did you find? {quote} Do you have any formulas yourself? {quote} I think you gonna have to be a Math Nerd before diving into numbers. Are you a Math Nerd? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgOcEZinQ2I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2vgICfQawE
No I am not. Probably that is why I haven't had great success as a trader. Thanks for those videos, fascinating stuff. I do not get the pattern and how it can be applied to trading. Should pi be used in spatial calculation only?
  • #6
  • Mar 17, 2021 10:14am Mar 17, 2021 10:14am
I think that the video above is that even such a complex mechanism as the forex market is just a few rules that create absolute unpredictability when interacting with each other.
The topic of numbers and sequences is very interesting and should be discovered more during trading courses, etc. Because our world is numbers and patterns, just like the information world is 0 and 1. So if we managed to come up with it, then why not find the code for everything around.
  • #7
  • Mar 17, 2021 11:52am Mar 17, 2021 11:52am
Don't get too complicated I have spent many hours searching for "the secret", but it is simple and in the front of your eyes, stop searching around.

Use .1000 .500 and .250 round numbers.

Example in EURUSD price: 1.19000, 1.19500, 1.19250.

Risk less and get a better reward.
Looking for profitable short term trades ...|
  • #8
  • Mar 17, 2021 12:37pm Mar 17, 2021 12:37pm
Quoting PipsCrasher
I think that the video above is that even such a complex mechanism as the forex market is just a few rules that create absolute unpredictability when interacting with each other. The topic of numbers and sequences is very interesting and should be discovered more during trading courses, etc. Because our world is numbers and patterns, just like the information world is 0 and 1. So if we managed to come up with it, then why not find the code for everything around.
So maybe price should be converted into another language and then analyzed? Can we just analyze the price quotes or we have to convert them. Like the squares of the above video..
  • #9
  • Mar 17, 2021 12:39pm Mar 17, 2021 12:39pm
Quoting Js3mwtRc
Don't get too complicated I have spent many hours searching for "the secret", but it is simple and in the front of your eyes, stop searching around. Use .1000 .500 and .250 round numbers. Example in EURUSD price: 1.19000, 1.19500, 1.19250. Risk less and get a better reward.
Thank you but the topic here is different. I want to know what lies beneath the surface of those numbers.
  • #10
  • Mar 17, 2021 12:47pm Mar 17, 2021 12:47pm
Quoting feline207
{quote} Thank you but the topic here is different. I want to know what lies beneath the surface of those numbers.
You are welcome, just remember my post if, you get tired doing cyrcles around
Looking for profitable short term trades ...|
  • #11
  • Mar 17, 2021 1:52pm Mar 17, 2021 1:52pm
Quoting feline207
{quote} Probably that is why I haven't had great success as a trader.
This implies that you think a set of (yet unknown) numbers will transform you into a successful trader? I wonder what kind of logic leads to that assertion...
If I code, I can't trade...
  • #12
  • Mar 17, 2021 3:17pm Mar 17, 2021 3:17pm
Quoting Cognoscio
{quote} This implies that you think a set of (yet unknown) numbers will transform you into a successful trader? I wonder what kind of logic leads to that assertion...
I think that you oversimplify that. Logic dictates that the precious information should not be obvious at first glance.
Do you think that me, you, the rest of the herd, and the best traders out there, all use the same numbers..?
  • #13
  • Mar 18, 2021 2:04am Mar 18, 2021 2:04am
Quoting feline207
Any ideas ?
I was looking at your profile picture and noticed you're young.
Are you still studying or what are/have you done academically?
Have you considered being a data scientist?

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I just went to google and searched "Forex data analytics".
Nada. No information on forex data analytics.
It looks like no one is even posting their data analytics and findings.
Even the chick in the video was like "....yeah nah... I can't tell you."
LOL
  • #14
  • Mar 18, 2021 4:59am Mar 18, 2021 4:59am
Quoting blob
{quote} Have you considered being a data scientist?
are you using data analytics in your trading? how's the performance of your trading using it?
  • #15
  • Edited 6:54am Mar 18, 2021 6:43am | Edited 6:54am
Quoting blob
What do I get in return for revealing these secrets? Crucial Point Forex Secret 3+9+3+3+9+1+3 96952 66956 153952 31 31 32 25 4 4 5 7 {image} {image} {image}
Hi blob,

giving some numbers and a very cryptic text won't help. However, since you asked for a data scientist, I used R to look at the frequency distribution of the number 44 that you marked in the first 100k digits of or the number pi. The occurences of positions of ANY number within pi will of course follow a uniform distribution as long the intervals are big enough. Here I only used intervals of 10k:

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Although you cannot predict the exact position of occurences of any numbers within the digits of pi, you know that the digits will occur equally likely within big enough time intervals. What would that mean for forex? I don't know. Maybe: If you wait long enough for a particular pattern, you can be certain to see it (however, you won't know the exact time).

However, the more complex the patterns become, the longer it will take until they appear.

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The above image shows the occurences of the digits 0 - 9 within the first 100k digits of pi.

If you don't agree, please beg your words with stats!
  • #16
  • Mar 18, 2021 8:48am Mar 18, 2021 8:48am
Quoting blob
{quote} I was looking at your profile picture and noticed you're young. Are you still studying or what are/have you done academically? Have you considered being a data scientist? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpLHMKTolVw I just went to google and searched "Forex data analytics". Nada. No information on forex data analytics. It looks like no one is even posting their data analytics and findings. Even the chick in the video was like "....yeah nah... I can't tell you." LOL
Oh... that picture was taken some years ago. But I am still young, I have graduated university long time ago. I have a a nice job and so much interesting things to do besides trading, but trading has been the passion. Really took a lot from me.. And not just money, unfortunately. I don't even know why I still believe. Hope never dies. What about you, are you satisfied with what you did, did you find any hidden numbers along the way.
  • #17
  • Mar 18, 2021 8:56am Mar 18, 2021 8:56am
Quoting AntiCre
... since you asked for a data scientist.
How about an intelligent data scientist and not an average one like yourself?
Seriously bro, my 17 year old nephew plots frequency distribution graphs. Its nothing complicated, its as complicated as copy and paste.

So I don't know what's up with you showing me the frequency distribution, and by doing so, was a rookie move on your part.
I mean, you can plot the frequency distribution of Breakouts, Inside bars, Candlestick patterns, Sessions, News, how many times you poop and fart, etc...
And the fact that your presenting me this, is telling me that I'm dealing with a rookie.
No disrespect, but good luck with your graphs and stats. Because it appears to me, that you don't even know what you're looking for.

Quoting AntiCre
If you don't agree, please beg your words with stats!
Yeah.... No. I got better things to do.
You can entertain your friends with your useless graphs.
  • #18
  • Mar 18, 2021 9:15am Mar 18, 2021 9:15am
Quoting feline207
{quote} Oh... that picture was taken some years ago. But I am still young, I have graduated university long time ago. I have a a nice job and so much interesting things to do besides trading, but trading has been the passion. Really took a lot from me.. And not just money, unfortunately. I don't even know why I still believe. Hope never dies. What about you, are you satisfied with what you did, did you find any hidden numbers along the way.
As a side note; You're competing with the world's greatest minds when trading. A lot of people think it's easy money. What's worse is when you get other people telling you that it doesn't require much to trade (intellectually, physically and monetary). It takes a lot from everyone. No one just dare to admit it. Some people have lost a lot that recouping their losses are impossible. There will always be hidden numbers. Mathematicians are dedicated-ly working hard daily to solve universal equations. Me, I'm not in it for the money. My itch are the numbers.
  • #19
  • Mar 18, 2021 10:11am Mar 18, 2021 10:11am
Blob, I see FF experts are out in force. That aside - out of curiosity - you ever applied any of your FX discoveries to another field? And you ever followed the rabbit warren of the lineage?
  • #20
  • Mar 18, 2021 10:51am Mar 18, 2021 10:51am
Please I ask all of you , lets not ruin this thread, thousands of discussions became dead, more often intentionally. If anyone has something valuable to contribute so we can all learn and become better, please do so! But I really don't' care who is better than who etc.. I don't know any of you that are standing behind forum nicknames, at least I have a photo uploaded, no one even shows a pic, I don't know whos the smartest guy and that is not the point, I dont need to find that. I want to read something interesting. One of the reasons I started this thread - there is really lack of good information recently on this forum and on the net as a whole I think. Some years back, there were lots of fascinating stuff around, I wont mention particular threads and names, tons of out of the box stuff to read, yeah unfortunately that wasn't enough for me. But I really hope that from this thread here, I will be able to learn something new again, and not just witness you insulting each other.. What is the point ? Thousands of thrash like that everywhere... I am sure everyone can give even just a little bit, if you let go of the ego. So please be kind and just introduce some concept or a video or whatever, but not personal insults...
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