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  • #9,201
  • Feb 23, 2021 6:05pm Feb 23, 2021 6:05pm
Hello traders,
Can someone help me with this..I am confused whether the trend is up or sideways. It removed a supply zone which I pointed in red arrow but it never removed a zone nor it break ML also price never accepted the imbalance. It removed that and also made higher high and we got the ability to draw upward ML. Looking forward for your inputs on this. Thank you.
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  • #9,202
  • Feb 23, 2021 8:25pm Feb 23, 2021 8:25pm
Unlucky, my sell order never got activated.
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  • #9,203
  • Feb 23, 2021 10:12pm Feb 23, 2021 10:12pm
Quoting Collotennis
Unlucky, my sell order never got activated.{image}
As we got only one base candle maybe you should have placed your order on the low of the base.
  • #9,204
  • Feb 23, 2021 10:26pm Feb 23, 2021 10:26pm
Quoting Collotennis
Unlucky, my sell order never got activated.{image}
Hate when that happens, ive missed loads of limit triggers like this.
I agree with Varma, to me the zone would have looked too small, I would have wrapped the full candle.
  • #9,205
  • Feb 24, 2021 1:17am Feb 24, 2021 1:17am
Quoting Collotennis
Unlucky, my sell order never got activated.{image}
I was lucky enough to get triggered, I took the full candle plus about 2 pips padding underneath.
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  • #9,206
  • Feb 24, 2021 1:25am Feb 24, 2021 1:25am
Quoting Varma123
Hello traders, Can someone help me with this..I am confused whether the trend is up or sideways. It removed a supply zone which I pointed in red arrow but it never removed a zone nor it break ML also price never accepted the imbalance. It removed that and also made higher high and we got the ability to draw upward ML. Looking forward for your inputs on this. Thank you. {image}

Thats how ive seen it mate. The RBR CP (green) removed the DBD CP to the left.

Is the daily your curve timeframe?
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  • #9,207
  • Feb 24, 2021 1:47am Feb 24, 2021 1:47am
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} I was lucky enough to get triggered, I took the full candle plus about 2 pips padding underneath. {image}
News spike must have pushed price up to the zone
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  • #9,208
  • Feb 24, 2021 2:29am Feb 24, 2021 2:29am
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} Thats how ive seen it mate. The RBR CP (green) removed the DBD CP to the left. Is the daily your curve timeframe? {image}
Yes mate..I use daily as my curve TF.
  • #9,209
  • Feb 24, 2021 3:05am Feb 24, 2021 3:05am
EURGBP

W1 - CP demand zone has just been removed with lots of room down to demand.

D1 - Downtrend, supply zones being created, lots of room down to next opposing demand.

H4 - LOL Supply zones created, downward momentum line respected. Could be good RR potential from shorting these zones, as the next higher TF opposing demand (Daily) is miles away.

Ive took the 2 Supply zones as one and will try and target just above opposing D1 demand at 1:5RR. Maybe trail SL behind any new H4 supply that may be created
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  • #9,210
  • Feb 25, 2021 4:57pm Feb 25, 2021 4:57pm
Quoting Varma123
Hello traders, Can someone help me with this..I am confused whether the trend is up or sideways. It removed a supply zone which I pointed in red arrow but it never removed a zone nor it break ML also price never accepted the imbalance. It removed that and also made higher high and we got the ability to draw upward ML. Looking forward for your inputs on this. Thank you. {image}
Hi Varma123 this chart is currently up as you have correctly identified the ability to draw momentum line up which have created
Higher lows and higher highs also removed supply zones on the way up.

Regards
JGK
  • #9,211
  • Feb 25, 2021 9:50pm Feb 25, 2021 9:50pm
Quoting jgk
{quote} Hi Varma123 this chart is currently up as you have correctly identified the ability to draw momentum line up which have created Higher lows and higher highs also removed supply zones on the way up. Regards JGK
Thank you JGK for your valuable information.
  • #9,212
  • Feb 25, 2021 10:09pm Feb 25, 2021 10:09pm
Hello Traders,
Analysis of EURGBP,
1. Price broken DBD supply zone
2. Trend is sideways
3. Higher probability is to look for buys in demand and sell for supply

Would appreciate it if you put your valuable inputs into this. Thank you.
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  • #9,213
  • Mar 2, 2021 8:15pm Mar 2, 2021 8:15pm
Hai AKT and S.A.D traders,
Below are the pictures with ML. Please let me know which one is correct? Would appreciate any suggestions on this?
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  • #9,214
  • Mar 2, 2021 8:22pm Mar 2, 2021 8:22pm
Quoting Varma123
Hai AKT and S.A.D traders, Below are the pictures with ML. Please let me know which one is correct? Would appreciate any suggestions on this? {image} {image}
the bottom one is correct
  • #9,215
  • Mar 2, 2021 8:37pm Mar 2, 2021 8:37pm
Quoting Varma123
Hai AKT and S.A.D traders, Below are the pictures with ML. Please let me know which one is correct? Would appreciate any suggestions on this? {image} {image}
The trend line is an imaginary line which indicates to you that price of a particular asset was going in particular direction and at some point of time (in your Time frame) as the volume of sells were more than the volume of buys.The imaginary line also tells you that at some point of time there were more buyers than sellers who got interested and volume of buying was more than selling, at that point of time and hence the trend break.

If you see both the trend lines indicated by you, and the break thereof is near a level where there was agreement on what the prices would be (consolidation) at an earlier point of time. Have enclosed your graphs with areas marked in blue for your ready reference. The point I am making is there is no right or wrong way of drawing lines on a graph.

The question to ask here is what does the (Price - Time) graph tell you and what are you trying to ascertain with the trendline? The trend line in both the cases say the same thing.
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  • #9,216
  • Mar 2, 2021 9:14pm Mar 2, 2021 9:14pm
Quoting Varma123
Hai AKT and S.A.D traders, Below are the pictures with ML. Please let me know which one is correct? Would appreciate any suggestions on this? {image} {image}
Hi Varma

From what I understand, the first one has the correct trendline, because you are joining two obvious peaks.

The 2nd picture isnt a peak, its a basing for a continuation pattern, (DBD).

If you have 3 CPs in a row then you are allowed to draw a trendline, but in this case there is only one, so it wouldnt count.
  • #9,217
  • Mar 2, 2021 11:30pm Mar 2, 2021 11:30pm
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} Hi Varma From what I understand, the first one has the correct trendline, because you are joining two obvious peaks. The 2nd picture isnt a peak, its a basing for a continuation pattern, (DBD). If you have 3 CPs in a row then you are allowed to draw a trendline, but in this case there is only one, so it wouldnt count.
Thank you Paulscaff1
  • #9,218
  • Mar 2, 2021 11:41pm Mar 2, 2021 11:41pm
Quoting Varma123
{quote} Thank you Paulscaff1
No probs mate, thats my understanding of the rules anyway, someone else might have a more compelling argument.

I mainly try to decipher between the rules taught here and in Morenos thread, then try to find some middle ground, with the emphasis being on solid rules that make for clean decisions.
  • #9,219
  • Mar 2, 2021 11:48pm Mar 2, 2021 11:48pm
Quoting Paulscaff1
{quote} No probs mate, thats my understanding of the rules anyway, someone else might have a more compelling argument. I mainly try to decipher between the rules taught here and in Morenos thread, then try to find some middle ground, with the emphasis being on solid rules that make for clean decisions.
I agree mate!!!!
  • #9,220
  • Mar 3, 2021 7:18am Mar 3, 2021 7:18am
Co-relation studies indicate Dollar getting stronger. While the other currencies had broken their structure, GBP has broken sturcture on the 4H Time frame last week (25TH FEB). This would indicate INSTITUTIONAL SELLERS coming in. Since HTF - GBP/USD has already broken market structure, I will be taking sell positions, whenever there is a pull back or at the top of consolidation, allowing it to run to the bottom of the range, with of course a provision for further move.

Entry plan was done on 15min TF.
Market sturcture break to study was done on 4H TF.
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