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  • #1,581
  • Feb 12, 2021 3:45am Feb 12, 2021 3:45am
Quoting PeterCaleb
Bilal, This is what I am talking about. Pictures can "help" but only after someone has fully learned the concepts. The first time you spoke to me I said - How many times would you allow someone to punch you before you either block it or duck it? This is my point. The true basics have not changed AT ALL since way back when I started decades ago. The concept of resistance (NOT Support Resistance) but just simply the basic definition of something coming up against a form of resistance. What happens? It either hits that resistance and then goes the...
Master one method then move ahead, one cannot be in all the classes at the same time but gradually can learn and grow.
"Exchange of hands"
  • #1,582
  • Feb 12, 2021 3:48am Feb 12, 2021 3:48am
Quoting PeterCaleb
I am happy to discuss concepts and work with someone regarding conceptual thinking but I feel this site is already bloated with surface layer chit chat and pretty pictures and far too little of what comes before all that. Peter
. as every other social platform... in every kind of specialization ... when community is growing knowledge is sinking in the noise ...
  • #1,583
  • Feb 12, 2021 3:59am Feb 12, 2021 3:59am
No not method - truthfully observable, honestly happening, repeatedly consistent.

The industry WANTS people to respond that way. Strip everything back and just look.

Common sense is the ability to know nothing about "everything involved" and yet, be able to see what would work better most or all of the time.

You're talking as if you're in school. There is no class, no textbook. There is "what you see" and "what it does". That's it. When they merge, THEN you can think about moving in a little closer to see more detail. But not before.

As I have said before - information doesn't make you profitable, when you are already information deprived. So you have no choice but to step back and just look and then re-examine.

-> To BlackNapkins = Yes it can be but that is not the only available option in reality if people just look.

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #1,584
  • Feb 12, 2021 4:04am Feb 12, 2021 4:04am
Quoting bilal1947
{quote} I let my trades do the talking


OK good luck with that.

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #1,585
  • Feb 12, 2021 4:07am Feb 12, 2021 4:07am
Quoting RickM
{quote} So you want a trader who has been working on his strategy for 6 hours a day, for over 18 years who has missed time away from family and friends just so he could obtain a profitable wage to pay his bills just to hand over to you his trading blueprint. A strategy that has cost him countless sleepless nights and risked his relationship at times just so he see what the next 1 minute candle will do instead. Here is my answer 99% of traders will make more money flipping burgers in the nearest takeaway bar. Those 1% of traders that do make more...
thats The right words mate , All respect and tottaly agree
Let me fill my acount wallet then will take Ur advice
  • #1,586
  • Feb 12, 2021 4:59am Feb 12, 2021 4:59am
Quoting rafat habeb
{quote} thats The right words mate , All respect and tottaly agree
He misread my request and got a bit defensive. Explained in his follow up post why he couldn't post results. Fair enough. Any other takers?
  • #1,587
  • Feb 12, 2021 5:17am Feb 12, 2021 5:17am
i think anyways danger-mouse was just referring to the algo levels (something new for most of us, like also bwilliams said...at least new for me ),
he wasnt asking for another proof of george's methodology, TMAs, bilal's order blocks, and so on...
For now, i have no idea how to see in advance these algo levels, I guess sure, all these studies are all inter-connected, but that wasnt his point, and also wasnt asking to reveal how to see them.
Correct me if im wrong
  • #1,588
  • Feb 12, 2021 5:21am Feb 12, 2021 5:21am
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  • #1,589
  • Feb 12, 2021 5:22am Feb 12, 2021 5:22am
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  • #1,590
  • Edited 6:31am Feb 12, 2021 5:40am | Edited 6:31am
Quoting Danger-Mouse
Ok...I'm not sure this thread is of any use to anyone trying to pick up anything new. There's a whole lot of "I've got the Holy Grail but I'm not telling" nonsense that has been around FF since Jesus was a boy. But, you have to ask yourself...WHERE IS THE PROOF?? Yes, there's lovely charts pointing at lovely levels and the usual follow up posts of "see, told you", but for the majority of them there is no advance discussion of how that level will be traded, expectations for profit, handling and protection of losses. If a football manager goes for...
Hi DM,

You made some valid points in your post. The truth is that there is a lot of frustration on FF. There are so many so called successful traders who post cherry picked trades and pretend they have found the holly grail.

But it is also true that there are a few traders (very few in fact) who know what they are talking about. In my experience on FF I would say that I identified maximum 5 traders in this category. From time to time they give some hints to the others, but it would be absurd to expect that they would reveal at large the secrets for which they invested so much time and money.

Now, out of these very few traders, even fewer are wiling to share a bit more, but in private, not on forums. They have their own motivations for doing it, but this is not relevant. The key point is that they could give some additional guidance.

So my suggestion is to firstly identify who these traders are (that's a tough job in itself) and then, at some point, try to send them a PM asking for some help. Of course, your chances are really slim, but if you succeed you can get some hints that will shorten your learning curve buy a lot.

Cheers,
B

PS one more thing...in this category I was talking about are not included traders whose aliases start with P...cough...cough...r and ends in C...cough...cough...b ...in my opinion, of course
On ignore list of scammers, deceivers and low IQ individuals. Exclusively
  • #1,591
  • Feb 12, 2021 5:52am Feb 12, 2021 5:52am
Quoting PeterCaleb
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problem is you way of explanation show me on charts what your saying, improve that please.

EURUSD i enter and feel safe done BE.
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  • #1,592
  • Feb 12, 2021 6:04am Feb 12, 2021 6:04am
GBPUSD - level to watch 1.38
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  • #1,593
  • Feb 12, 2021 6:06am Feb 12, 2021 6:06am
Quoting bfx17
{quote} Hi DM, You made some valid points in your post. The truth is that there is a lot of frustration on FF. There are so many so called successful traders who post cherry picked trades and pretend they have found the holly grail. But it is also true that there are a few traders (very few in fact) who know what they are talking about. In my experience on FF I would say that I identified maximum 5 traders in this category. From time to time they give some hints to the others, but it would be absurd to expect that they would reveal at large the...


Codswallop. "no-names" like you are the reason genuine aspiring traders lose focus and direction with your pseudo "I want to help" silliness.
Everything I have spoken about and shown and explained is verifiable. Do you know what that word means deary .... verifiable .... it means it can be proven true and correct. Dumbass Dopes like you who are using an alias are easy to spot. THAT is the difference for someone like me. Presences like you come across as sweet as candy but you're just rancid silliness that interfere with people's learning. I take offense to it NOT because of me but because of how it affects or MAY affect real people.

I am not interested in who or what you are. But I am interested to set the record straight so people are not discouraged from learning. I don't have a "My way or the highway" approach, I only ask that people seek to learn in as many formats as possible. Language included.

You see, I love transparency, it helps flush all the rats out into the open. Catch my drift buddy?

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #1,594
  • Feb 12, 2021 6:10am Feb 12, 2021 6:10am
Quoting bilal1947
{quote} problem is you way of explanation show me on charts what your saying, improve that please. EURUSD i enter and feel safe done BE. {image}

Concept

Constant =
- occurring continuously over a period of time.
- a situation or state of affairs that does not change.

Variable =
- not consistent or having a fixed pattern; liable to change.
- able to be changed or adapted.
- an element, feature, or factor that is liable to vary or change.
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #1,595
  • Edited 8:32am Feb 12, 2021 6:12am | Edited 8:32am
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} Concept Constant = - occurring continuously over a period of time. - a situation or state of affairs that does not change. Variable = - not consistent or having a fixed pattern; liable to change. - able to be changed or adapted. - an element, feature, or factor that is liable to vary or change.
chart is missing!
consider the post incomplete if no chart and transform the long paras to support it.
"Exchange of hands"
  • #1,596
  • Feb 12, 2021 6:12am Feb 12, 2021 6:12am
Now to technical analysis - an internalized platform of observation of a market and its set functions, abilities and traits.

Common sense concept + technical analysis + the real world.
= Trading longevity

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #1,597
  • Edited 10:09am Feb 12, 2021 7:53am | Edited 10:09am
I use ctrader and I was thinking there might be a way of opening up a social platform were one can see other traders trades.
I know people prefer MT4 - I don't think it has a social platform attached to it.
Only a suggestion- too see if there is an appetite for this.
Both valid points by ryuryu - supply and demand is just drawing lines - but if you add a few moving averages to this from different time frames - you have a much better outcome. I know moving averages is a lagging indicator- very useful on different time frames.
  • #1,598
  • Edited 8:50am Feb 12, 2021 8:32am | Edited 8:50am
Quoting Londonpip60
there might be a way of opening up a social platform were one can see other traders trades.
In my opinion it is useless task. There are 2 type of traders here. First draw lines on the chart and working on higher tfs like 1h-4h and daily. They are using their eyes and brains to draw the lines. Copying their trades are very risky and meaningless since they are not using math but mostly use their feelings.

Second type is algo scalpers. But here we have 2 issues that will not allow another person to follow. First is that there can be hundreds of trades daily and second that every trade can last for minutes or even seconds. And I even don't touch the topic about hedging, closing trades one by one etc.

It is better to create your own strategy or pick up one well known and become a master of that strategy. Copying trades from unknown systems can't give any meaningful explanation why that exact trade was taken.
Observer effect
  • #1,599
  • Edited 10:45am Feb 12, 2021 10:15am | Edited 10:45am
Quoting PeterCaleb
Now to technical analysis - an internalized platform of observation of a market and its set functions, abilities and traits. Common sense concept + technical analysis + the real world. = Trading longevity Peter
+ some masala for happy weekend, this is not by chance. i showed the 1M executions too at my thread its no magic no need long paras, please include charts in your post !

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  • #1,600
  • Feb 12, 2021 12:06pm Feb 12, 2021 12:06pm
Quoting Danger-Mouse
{quote} He misread my request and got a bit defensive. Explained in his follow up post why he couldn't post results. Fair enough. Any other takers?
you got the right to post or tell your ideas and or any thought or belives in trading experience or way,i respect your words even if i agree with it or not, Greetings and good luck mate
Let me fill my acount wallet then will take Ur advice
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