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  • #921
  • Jan 25, 2021 9:03pm Jan 25, 2021 9:03pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote}
Hi BW,

Wow, where has this thread headed, I do not know.

Anyway just quickly.

I am not a member of the so called ‘cave’ as I chatter far too much off subject for any such groups to cope with.

A little like Z and he would say the same about me.

But I must say one thing.

And that is I have found in my chats with him (which were well over a year ago now),


That Zoltan is an upright guy.


And I am not qualified to make any judgement on someone’s state of being.

But BWilliam I can hear “pain” coming out of you and your written word.

And I can see no benefit for you in that. It’s a chat Forum, that is all.


You are disgruntled for your own reasons I guess, and I won’t take that away from you.

It’s a short ride all around on this planet. And a tough year gone by for all global inhabitants.


But let the healing begin please mate.

For your own sake, in the long run. Offered in good faith, honestly.
  • #922
  • Edited 9:33pm Jan 25, 2021 9:06pm | Edited 9:33pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Hi BW, Wow, where has this thread headed, I do not know. Anyway just quickly. I am not a member of the so called ‘cave’ as I chatter far too much off subject for any such groups to cope with. A little like Z and he would say the same about me. But I must say one thing. And that is I have found in my chats with him (with him which were well over a year ago now), That Zoltan is an upright guy. And I am not qualified to make any judgement on someone’s state of being. But BWilliam I can hear “pain” coming out of you and your written word. And...
Like I wrote earlier, you gang thugs attack won't stop. It's so predictable. What you wrote doesn't make it true. Repeating it is with the single purpose to brainwash readers. That's the motive of your post to discredit me. "Offered in good faith" is your hypocritical style of aloof mockery to deflect. I get it and use to it. Not the first not the last. More to come anyway. Until Bfx17 gets me banned. for trolling gurus on forum.

You are with George on his Skype "cave" regularly. Close old-timers relationship. Fact. Stop lying.

Got a curious question for you TimeTells.
Is he......?

George cave.
PF cave.
Not sure if Fractalfreak has his cave or not.

That's a lot of cave dwellers angry with me.

Anyway done responding to angry cave dwellers. It's getting hot in here. You guys can have the last word. Make it a grand demeaning speech. It's fun reading them.
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  • #923
  • Jan 25, 2021 9:19pm Jan 25, 2021 9:19pm
For me personally, I am simply here to share some things that could help someone whose prepared to learn. I don't possess any alternate FF ID's and if someone 'needs" to be on a site like this one (Joined and signed in) for more than a year to learn how to trade properly, then from my experience, they probably either - have not found the appropriate source/s of information to learn or, simply do not have any common sense in the first place.

Otherwise, they would be a 'commercial member' which is, in and of itself a joke. Why not just say "come here I have something to sell".

Despite the childish ridiculousness of this site, it's worth mentioning again.

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #924
  • Jan 25, 2021 9:35pm Jan 25, 2021 9:35pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
I was just speaking generally about people and entities on this site. No one specific. Someone asked me about FTMO and prop firm trading etc. I haven't done that kind of trading however, anyone who is interested in "funding" your trading activities will always want their pound of flesh in some form. To me, that kind of trading is more like having a job with a fool for a boss. The people I have come across interested in that sort of thing are wanting security over independence. Sadly I fear one day they'll be disappointed. But that's just me. Others...
Self-funding_offer shops give you funny capital knowing well 99 pc of takers will be losers. They keep verification and enrolment fee. In many ways they are providing an excellent service and saving you from losses.
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  • #925
  • Jan 25, 2021 9:40pm Jan 25, 2021 9:40pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Like I wrote earlier, you gang thugs attack won't stop. It's so predictable. What you wrote doesn't make it true. Repeating it is with the single purpose to brainwash readers. That's the motive of your post to discredit me. "Offered in good faith" is your hypocritical style of aloof mockery to deflect. I get it and use to it. Not the first not the last. More to come anyway. Until Bfx17 gets me banned. for trolling gurus on forum. You are with George on his Skype "cave" regularly. Close old-timers relationship. Fact. Stop lying. Got...
By definition of your post then I am also in George’s cave yet I haven’t communicated with him for around 8 months.
We all do our own thing.
There is no cave, only the bullshit and cock dangling pervading this thread.
  • #926
  • Jan 25, 2021 9:49pm Jan 25, 2021 9:49pm
Quoting moodybot
By definition of your post then I am also in George’s cave yet I haven’t communicated with him for around 8 months. We all do our own thing. There is no cave, only the bullshit and cock dangling pervading this thread.
Hi moodybot, start a thread tell us about your latest rocket.
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  • #927
  • Jan 25, 2021 9:53pm Jan 25, 2021 9:53pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote}
That's the motive of your post to discredit me.

You are with George on his Skype "cave" regularly. Close old-timers relationship. Fact. Stop lying.

Hi BW,

No, again you are wrong here.

The last record I have on a Skype chat with George in his ‘cave’ was back on 1st May 2019.

I have that date recorded as the lovely lady from China, Susan, was also again in Skype attendance and we had some great philosophical chats (which was the last time I Skyped with her as well).

My chats were out of context for a Forex group so I went back to lone wolf again.

I have never been on Zoltan’s / PF chat room.


I feel you are prone to finding paranoid connections in the wilderness BW.

You have not got anything right yet about myself (but I do keep to myself so that is not unexpected).

And I cannot help you with that.


I just trade.

Using the ‘target’ methodology in its most fractal state.

Sometimes I get it wrong but I know how to deal with an early (or late) entry now.


I also don’t use the common ‘pips’ assessment to quantify my trades.

I use a simple ‘p’.

p = dollar profit (or yes loss) divided by lot size.

ie $20 profit with a 0.1 trade size = 20p to me (not 20 pips as different pairs have different payoffs)


so today so far, in and out 50 mins total, = +15.2p

I will look in again after Franky and see what the London open does, then trade again if I have a setup.

Will be in bed though before New York as always.


Your concern for others being tricked BW is duly noted. I trust that is your prime concern.
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  • #928
  • Edited 10:19pm Jan 25, 2021 9:57pm | Edited 10:19pm
Quoting TimeTells
Your concern for others being tricked BW is duly noted. I trust that is your prime concern. {image}
Bingo!

About trading I have posted many clear charts on here. 25pips is the target. No clues or hints.

Quoting TimeTells
Sometimes I get it wrong but I know how to deal with an early (or late) entry now.
Is it OK to post how you deal with it? Just curious.

One more thing you waited for the buying to subside in the 1st trade. 2nd trade you hit the button on the rising spike before taking out the target. That's the difference I see.

I'm not criticising. Curious to know why you didn't wait just like the first trade. That's RickM's volume trick.
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  • #929
  • Jan 25, 2021 10:09pm Jan 25, 2021 10:09pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Hi moodybot, start a thread tell us about your latest rocket.
No point, your knowledge is way above my pay grade.
  • #930
  • Jan 25, 2021 10:18pm Jan 25, 2021 10:18pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} RickM, I have no issue with the cave dwellers. You guys have issue with me because of my stance with the OP. That's allegiance and devotion, I understand that. I followed the OP few years back when it started, way before any of you know he exist. He lost the entire account, make light of it. My issue with him is his godlike EGO. That's why I troll him. I have long pms trolling each other. This guy has much bigger plans than that commercial cave. He plans of a modern uptownship in Wall Street, his fantasy PF Tower. He's using cave dwellers...
BWilliams

Its all in your mind, that is not what Zoltan is about.
Every trading night, I would spend time talking to Zoltan about trading and life in general on the Cave's messaging service.
We share setups, trading results (he is very profitable) and just about anything else we feel like because trading is a very lonely game.

We think alike and I can tell you something else, he has no Ego.
Never witnessed it at all last year.
Right as I speak, he is in the cave helping a trader with his setups - all free because he cares about their trading journey..
Trust me, he is one of the good guys who put other traders needs first.
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  • #931
  • Jan 25, 2021 10:23pm Jan 25, 2021 10:23pm
Quoting RickM
BWilliams Its all in your mind, that is not what Zoltan is about. Every trading night, I would spend time talking to Zoltan about trading and life in general on the Discord messaging service. We share setups, trading results (he is very profitable) and just about anything else we feel like because trading is a very lonely game. We think alike and I can tell you something else, he has no Ego. Never witnessed it at all last year. Trust me, he is one of the good guys who put other traders needs first.
Ok sir it's best to keep our posts to trading matters. Oh well there's still Bfx17. Curious question, is this member active with you guys?

And know that I posted those charts to show you how I trade the larger sine wave.
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  • #932
  • Jan 25, 2021 10:38pm Jan 25, 2021 10:38pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} BWilliams Its all in your mind, that is not what Zoltan is about. Every trading night, I would spend time talking to Zoltan about trading and life in general on the Discord messaging service. We share setups, trading results (he is very profitable) and just about anything else we feel like because trading is a very lonely game. We think alike and I can tell you something else, he has no Ego. Never witnessed it at all last year. Trust me, he is one of the good guys who put other traders needs first.
I will second your post.

Zoltan is on a very short list of very good guys operating on FF.

No, BWilliam, I am not a member of Zoltans cave.

I have accepted advice from Zoltan in the past. I would accept advice from Zoltan in the future.

My guess is you may want some help, if you do, put your hand up, send Rick or Zoltan a PM.

To anyone else reading this thread, it’s no shame to ask for help if unsure, stuck or bogged down.

I have no idea what Zoltan is up to on his commercial thread but he would be a good place to start.

If you don’t need some guidance then you’re one of the very few who don’t.

Andy.
  • #933
  • Jan 25, 2021 10:46pm Jan 25, 2021 10:46pm
Quoting moodybot
If you don’t need some guidance then you’re one of the very few who don’t. Andy.
I don't need guidance. Zero subscription. Is it OK with you to write this? Have I committed a forum crime?
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  • #934
  • Jan 25, 2021 10:51pm Jan 25, 2021 10:51pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} I don't need guidance. Zero subscription. Is it OK with you to write this? Have I committed a forum crime?
You haven’t understood my post but that’s fine.
  • #935
  • Jan 25, 2021 11:04pm Jan 25, 2021 11:04pm
Quoting asset21
where do these people come from? seriously!
It's a very large group of traders made up of few sub-groups, I call them caves(I have not named all of them by choice). Together their members link to dominate this forum by sheer size.
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  • #936
  • Jan 25, 2021 11:05pm Jan 25, 2021 11:05pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote}

Bingo!

{quote} Is it OK to post how you deal with it? Just curious. One more thing you waited for the buying to subside in the 1st trade. 2nd trade you hit the button on the rising spike before taking out the target. That's the difference I see. I'm not criticising. Curious to know why you didn't wait just like the first trade. That's RickM's volume trick.


BW, you keep adding to posts you have already finalised. Sometimes I don't go back ever to read them, sometimes maybe a day or 2 later.

Is it too much to ask that you start a new post if you have something new to say or ask



And no I will not go into detail of how I trade or why.

My reason is that I believe it is not helpful to others who must make their own way on when to hit Buy or Sell.

(Once a trader takes their own responsibility for a buy or sell, then they are on their way to deeper personal understandings).


I do use targets, fractals & structures (I look at 1Wk, 1Dy in the morning - while I look at 4hr ONLY intraday),

Mainly I enter from a 1HR setup template that I then drop to a 15m view of the current 'waves' or ebb and flow of price (NOT Elliott's, just the moving wave of the 'current' timeframe).

If it still passes my setup for a trade then I drop down to the 1m chart exclusively, and wait for an entry.


I will close a trade on any TF as I am price oriented then and it is written down in advance - which is why some might look "After The Event" at my trades & think I have closed too early or too late - but it was MY already pre-chosen exit in advance - for what I wanted from THAT trade at the time.

Targets, fractal behaviour. And what I call "inflection points" which is not the geometrically correct use of the word (for all the word 'police' out there).


So from London tonight I MIGHT NOT trade the same way as I did in Asia - which was WITH the market based on my template.

I may well trade reversals tonight. I do not set these things in concrete.

I am only interested in what the market does.

Whether it plays continuations or, alternatively, "fakes & flips" as I call them, or whether it runs wild 'against' the traffic to an exhaustion point.

I will NOT know any of these things until the market 'acts'. Then and only then I "might" trade.

And trading is not all I do. That's all I will say.
  • #937
  • Jan 25, 2021 11:25pm Jan 25, 2021 11:25pm
Quoting TimeTells
BW, you keep adding to posts you have already finalised. Sometimes I don't go back ever to read them, sometimes maybe a day or 2 later. Is it too much to ask that you start a new post if you have something new to say or ask And no I will not go into detail of how I trade or why. My reason is that I believe it is not helpful to others who must make their own way on when to hit Buy or Sell. (Once a trader takes their own responsibility for a buy or sell, then they are on their way to deeper personal understandings). I do...
Just to add context to your trades this morning. Both are high percentage win trades.
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  • #938
  • Jan 25, 2021 11:52pm Jan 25, 2021 11:52pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Ok sir it's best to keep our posts to trading matters. Oh well there's still Bfx17. Curious question, is this member active with you guys? And know that I posted those charts to show you how I trade the larger sine wave.
Hi BSW, now I am worried for you. You really lost it. You see conspiracies, groups, caves etc. everywhere. Wtf is wrong with you man?

Please repeat at least 100 times a day: 'it is all in my mind' and you will get better.

So recompose yourself and remember, a Pro is all the time in control. I will give you some time to regroup.
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  • #939
  • Jan 25, 2021 11:55pm Jan 25, 2021 11:55pm
Quoting bfx17
Hi BSW, now I am worried for you. You really lost it. You see conspiracies, groups, caves etc. everywhere. Wtf is wrong with you man? Please repeat at least 100 times a day: 'it is all in my mind' and you will get better. So recompose yourself and remember, a Pro is all the time in control. I will give you some time to regroup.
You have to work harder to get me banned.

Fanky open back to trading, ciao.
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  • #940
  • Jan 26, 2021 12:00am Jan 26, 2021 12:00am
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} You have to work harder to get me banned. Fanky open back to trading, ciao.
Lol...man, you really are f..cked up.

Repeat after me: "it is all in my mind". Do it now!
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