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  • #381
  • Dec 8, 2020 3:13am Dec 8, 2020 3:13am
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} Do you see and understand how naive that sounds? Do you think me stupid or slow in the head somehow? Do I seem mentally retarded to you? How I trade is my business. I'm not here to get into a dick swinging competition with anyone. Nor am I here to openly disclose the kinds of things that would not help YOU in any way to perform your own trading. Imitating me will not help. And anyone who says otherwise is NOT a real trader. There is no way that someone who genuinely wants to learn to trade could NOT learn from ALL the material presented...
" Do I seem mentally retarded to you?" I'd love to be proven wrong, I realize now that as a newbie of FF, coming in and taking over other people 's threads , you seem to have no idea what it is even for, which is a place where traders share their trades, styles , tips, strategies , encouragement etc, but as you seem to have none, i was expecting too much,
FF is not a place where people want to read long boring meaningless psychology lectures, Oh, btw thanks for the death wish, I won't take it personally.
  • #382
  • Dec 8, 2020 3:54am Dec 8, 2020 3:54am
Actually I think you have already taken it ALL very personal. I never "took over', I simply had something to share. And if you would like to go back and check, before I started contributing, this thread had pretty much died. It basically looked like you were all just sitting there twiddling your thumbs.

Do you need me to show you my statements and .... how about I give you all my account numbers and tell you which broker "treats me nice" ? Do you want some candy too ? How about an ice cream? Would you like me to tuck you into bed?

Isn't it clear to you that those "games" you play with other people don't work on me?

Have you noticed that after you click "Post New Reply", it's now in print? So anyone with a brain can go looking to see how many times you people play these ridiculous disgusting games?

You must be a "Millennial" right? Because that age group are the only ones who are ok with acting that way.

Either you want to learn or not. If you prefer your clique then go suck their thumbs.

I came here just to contribute. If you have a problem with the basics. YOUR problem.

If the shoe fits - either you're rabid or you're not. Where I'm from, there's only one cure for it. Sorry if you felt threatened. Maybe get out into the world a bit more and realize you really don't know much that's worth knowing friend.

But I doubt people like you will change. You're happy like a pig in poop.

Greetings From Earth

Peter
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  • #383
  • Dec 8, 2020 5:43am Dec 8, 2020 5:43am
Quoting PeterCaleb
Actually I think you have already taken it ALL very personal. I never "took over', I simply had something to share. And if you would like to go back and check, before I started contributing, this thread had pretty much died. It basically looked like you were all just sitting there twiddling your thumbs. Do you need me to show you my statements and .... how about I give you all my account numbers and tell you which broker "treats me nice" ? Do you want some candy too ? How about an ice cream? Would you like me to tuck you into bed? Isn't it clear...
Grow up Peter, you are acting like a baby.
Seriously read your posts then have a good look in the mirror, you might not like what you see.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #384
  • Dec 8, 2020 8:12am Dec 8, 2020 8:12am
Hi Peter,

What really may help people is reading the simple moving averages on the 4 hour, 1 hour and 15 minute and relating the entry to the 1 minute.
George called it feeling the momentum - but said it would take him to long to explain on the forum.
I don't trade GJ - I would struggle to explain it correctly.
  • #385
  • Dec 8, 2020 1:06pm Dec 8, 2020 1:06pm
I think a number of people need to look in the mirror. To say to Peter his writing is mindless drivel shows where you are at currently. If you don't get that the answer is between your ears and you have to put in the work, you will never get there.
If you do not like what is being said move on, but don't criticize someone who is trying to help others.It is too easy to be rude on these forums and thats where some folk get their pleasure.
  • #386
  • Dec 8, 2020 7:36pm Dec 8, 2020 7:36pm
In my day, all this silly immature banter would be classified as the behavior of a juvenile delinquent. These days it needs a more up to date title. Perhaps .... delinquent socialites. I see no merit in making public how long someone has been a "member" of a place like this. It doesn't impress me or anyone with a brain. To me, if someone needs to be a "member" of this kind of place for more than 6mths to a year, then they are doing something seriously wrong, if their real intention is to learn how to trade properly. It's interesting to note as well, that if a person wants to learn to trade, they need not even join and become a member. Probably 90%+ of the written, file and picture material is openly available to be downloaded, copied or saved at no cost. So to the people who put a lot of weight and value into "being a member" here, hehehehehe, you're thinking is ass-end backwards. You're really just a nobody trying to be a somebody in a place that isn't real. Such a laugh.

As for making death threats etc, I didn't do anything like that. Go and read it again. I merely made an observable note of what would be a kindness. People today are far too hypersensitive and over-reactive. You've neglected the first rule - observe your surroundings.

As to being seen as acting like a baby, I am an adult, so I know how to speak my mind. I do not suppress or repress anything that needs to be said. I expected a comment like this because people like you have a "playbook" and you're VERY predictable.

In my day, I would've just hog-tied and castrated you for causing me so much trouble. So you see, I'm from the real world. Your games and ploys don't work on me and now, since ALL of this is in print, for everyone to see and bear witness to, anyone who happens to come to this discussion thread will see what has gone on.

I would like to thank you for your eager participation.

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #387
  • Dec 8, 2020 7:45pm Dec 8, 2020 7:45pm
Trading is about YOU. Your flaws and weaknesses and what you're ignorant of.

As to Londonpip60 mentioning the setup using MA's. It would be interesting to hear from RickM, Profitgrowth, Pumi and other DaDaDaDah .... "members" to give a rundown of those types strategies and setups. Why? Because apparently I have taken over so if they can distribute their wisdom to others trying to learn and understand, then they can "reclaim" their "alpha" positions, while it's clear, that when George was "running things, he was the "alpha". So let these people fill their own void and stop feeling like "betas". Go ahead guys and girls, the floor is all yours ......

Peter
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  • #388
  • Dec 9, 2020 3:14am Dec 9, 2020 3:14am
What?! No info? No explanations?! Mmmmm OK .....

My own basic assessment of using Moving Averages ....

Rule No.1 - They are the market squeezed mathematically into a single line for visual use.
Rule No.2 - They tend to "flow" along with the market activity
Rule No. 3 - They can be used to assert specific repetition of the hindsight activity of the market you are trading.
Rule No. 4 - HOW YOU use them is COMPLETELY up to you. If it is just for research, backtesting or something else. The good thing about an average is, it gives you basic representation (that YOU can improve on) of what was, so you can gauge specific movements for the future movements and setups. Sometimes it gets trapped and other times it flies like a bird BUT, the rest is up to YOU. Your job is to work out what YOU like about it and use that to your advantage. Good luck and have fun with it.

Peter

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  • #389
  • Dec 9, 2020 6:25pm Dec 9, 2020 6:25pm
Peter, I just completed a Eight hour live trading session last night and finished up at 1am in the morning, some of us actually trade for a living and need to sleep.

You won’t find any assessments from me about his moving averages because I never thought they added value to his work.

His work in the beginning in regard to price expansion was brilliant.

Cheers
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #390
  • Dec 9, 2020 7:21pm Dec 9, 2020 7:21pm
Hello guys

Please let's stop getting sidetracked with all the negativity & return to our thread topic .

As for mathematically deriving future swing points from past swing points - it looks interesting . George , are you using Leonardo Pisano Bogollo's works in derivation ?

Wave cycles sounds somewhat familiar . A new take on Bryce Gilmore's cycles ?

From a pure price action point , indicators are probably not a part of it. I see uses of TMA. I've long been a follower of Al Brooks & only use 20 EMA from time to time , but don't need it. Are you using TMA to gauge momentum ?

Thanks & good day !
  • #391
  • Dec 9, 2020 7:42pm Dec 9, 2020 7:42pm
Quoting RickM
Peter, I just completed a Eight hour live trading session last night and finished up at 1am in the morning, some of us actually trade for a living and need to sleep. You won’t find any assessments from me about his moving averages because I never thought they added value to his work. His work in the beginning in regard to price expansion was brilliant. Cheers


RickM,

I think you've missed the point of all this. I'm not your enemy. It's simply that you and many others around here consider yourselves in a better position to answer questions that people may have. (Of course we traders do work and that takes us away from this stuff here. But you are approaching this as if I care if you just did some trading.) All of what you wrote above is about -->YOU<-- and NOT about helping others trade. Naturally, there are more civilized ways to approach ALL OF THIS "learning to trade" stuff. But you and your colleagues thought you had a shot at coming at me. THAT is why I suggested that you all provide a constructive contribution __>> For those who want to learn. THAT is why I am here. NOT to be "Mr Know it all" etc etc etc. Whether or not I could wipe the floor with you in the real world of trading is irrelevant. And it's THAT thinking that causes all these ridiculous arguments.

Your assumptions about whether they are of value seems to stem from the idea that your approach, the tools, resources and information you use to perform your own trading, will always be available to you. I sense that decision is in error, but each to their own.

Being objective when trading the financial markets is about having a 360 degrees view of what's going on. That means being aware that ALL theories are relevant as they exist in the common area for anyone to access and use. Who says that Order Flow, DOM, Market and Volume profile etc will not banned, restricted or censored in the future? How can you be ready for any of that if you assume Life is static?

Just a thought.

OK. See you on the flipside.

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #392
  • Dec 9, 2020 8:22pm Dec 9, 2020 8:22pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} RickM, I think you've missed the point of all this. I'm not your enemy. It's simply that you and many others around here consider yourselves in a better position to answer questions that people may have. (Of course we traders do work and that takes us away from this stuff here. But you are approaching this as if I care if you just did some trading.) All of what you wrote above is about -->YOU<-- and NOT about helping others trade. Naturally, there are more civilized ways to approach ALL OF THIS "learning to trade" stuff. But you and your...
No Peter, I won't be contributing on this thread anymore, it's ruined now with all your retarded nonsense, where you've turned it into your personal battlefield in spite of gentle hints as to what is helpful to contribute and what FF is for,good luck with spouting your tripe, plenty of other good threads where people talk sense.
  • #393
  • Dec 9, 2020 8:55pm Dec 9, 2020 8:55pm
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  • #394
  • Dec 9, 2020 9:31pm Dec 9, 2020 9:31pm
Quoting PeterCaleb
OK .... {image}{image}
Please don't litter your trash here... This is George's thread. If George was monitoring this... you would have been banned long back. Show some respect please.

If you are so desperate to shit on the roof top... do it on YOUR OWN house... not someone else's. Oops... YOUR OWN THREAD!!!
Thanks.
  • #395
  • Dec 9, 2020 10:50pm Dec 9, 2020 10:50pm
Quoting vinforex7
{quote} Please don't litter your trash here... This is George's thread. If George was monitoring this... you would have been banned long back. Show some respect please. If you are so desperate to shit on the roof top... do it on YOUR OWN house... not someone else's. Oops... YOUR OWN THREAD!!! Thanks.


vinforex7,

I think you're confusing celebration with "trash talk". And I think you believe me to be something I'm not. If you attack me, I will defend myself. I sense that George started THIS thread as a response to all the trash talk that was littering the original thread. So to salvage the integrity of that thread, he placed all the fish in one barrel, here. Unfortunately, several real people with a real interest in learning how to trade also came here.

Q - You do realize that George is STILL alive right? And it's very likely that he checks in at times. If he has any problem with me and my posts, he can contact me directly via pm and ask me to stop. I am very approachable that way. George left you all to your own devices and to find your way. In this way, I am a lot like George. I am happy to help. But I won't do the work for you and I have little tolerance for immature BS and the antics of silly people.

So now, please go and re-read George's original post for THIS thread. Now ask yourself - Is Peter doing "bad things" or is he trying to follow George's original noted wishes for THIS thread?

So whoever or whatever you are, if you're more interested in berating me and showing yourself as someone who is more interested in "clique thinking" than improving your trading, then go ahead.

My only problem is with people etc on here who pretend to be what they are not yet EXPECT to be treated like an adult. If you didn't observe George's behavior towards the end and then into this thread, then maybe you should visit the doctor. The truth is written there. Silly or stupid or stubborn people are frustrating, exhausting and a waste of time trying to help. All you have to do is work out which category you fit into on a site like this one ---

A - A Professional Trader
B - A genuine aspiring trader - beginner, intermediary or veteran
C - A w!@#$r two bit trouble maker with too much time on their hands and too little brains to get through the day who will never grow up.

Simple right?

No mess and no fuss.

Are we done with all this now?

Can we get back to talking about trading now?

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #396
  • Dec 10, 2020 12:31am Dec 10, 2020 12:31am
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} vinforex7, I think you're confusing celebration with "trash talk". And I think you believe me to be something I'm not. If you attack me, I will defend myself. I sense that George started THIS thread as a response to all the trash talk that was littering the original thread. So to salvage the integrity of that thread, he placed all the fish in one barrel, here. Unfortunately, several real people with a real interest in learning how to trade also came here. Q - You do realize that George is STILL alive right? And it's very likely that he checks...
All I asked was to keep the nonsense to yourself and keep the thread clean please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • #397
  • Dec 10, 2020 1:19am Dec 10, 2020 1:19am
From my experience, the simplest things are usually the best. You can study wave cycles. And you can study Elliot Waves, And you can then review George's learning material. And you will find that there is a correlation between ebb and flow tidal patterns with these same waves and cycles. Although most people never seem to notice and fully appreciate the connection. I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel so if you are in the process of going through all of this material, here's a few pics to help.

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  • #398
  • Dec 10, 2020 1:52am Dec 10, 2020 1:52am
Quoting PeterCaleb
From my experience, the simplest things are usually the best. You can study wave cycles. And you can study Elliot Waves, And you can then review George's learning material. And you will find that there is a correlation between ebb and flow tidal patterns with these same waves and cycles. Although most people never seem to notice and fully appreciate the connection. I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel so if you are in the process of going through all of this material, here's a few pics to help. {image}{image}{image}{image}{image}{image}
Hello Peter,
I first want to thank you for all your sharing,it is very helpful!
I wanted to ask you if you can gently share your TMA indicator,does it recalculate?i would really appreciate i think it could be very helpful.

Ciao
  • #399
  • Dec 10, 2020 2:42am Dec 10, 2020 2:42am
Quoting Brambilla
{quote} Hello Peter, I first want to thank you for all your sharing,it is very helpful! I wanted to ask you if you can gently share your TMA indicator,does it recalculate?i would really appreciate i think it could be very helpful. Ciao


https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/post/11925352#post11925352

Post No. 4 of George's posts. It interpolates so depending on how you use it, it may recalculate a bit. But I don't use it to predict or forecast so I don't care if it repaints or not.

To everyone - I hope it's OK that I shared this here.

Peter
Real Trading is not gambling.
  • #400
  • Dec 10, 2020 5:15am Dec 10, 2020 5:15am
Quoting PeterCaleb
{quote} https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...2#post11925352 Post No. 4 of George's posts. It interpolates so depending on how you use it, it may recalculate a bit. But I don't use it to predict or forecast so I don't care if it repaints or not. To everyone - I hope it's OK that I shared this here. Peter
Thanks
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