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  • #21
  • Nov 21, 2020 9:49am Nov 21, 2020 9:49am
END OF WEEK 2

The second week of my Forex Test Lab is over. Fortunately, week number 2 ended with an overall profit again. Although it didn't look like that at the beginning of the week. You can see that the systems again helped each other to make an overall profit.

Three systems are strong and there is no reason to remove them: Guiding Light EA beta, Tradingview Ideas, and the paid signals from FX street. The paid signals performed not well in week 1 but they were very stable now in week 2 with good entries. Apparently, they had a bug in the target settings. Thatīs what they wrote on their website. And they fixed it. We will see.

The Dynamic Swing Trader indicator delivered the worst weekly result. It recovered some losses on the last two trading days though. Three trades are still running. When they achieve their goal (targets) the result could be excellent next week. If not the Swing Trader could be removed from the test lab.

I donīt have any hopes anymore for the Red Hawk EA. It is the only system that produced an overall drawdown on its live account. Every day the results get worse. The update to version 1.8 from the developer did not change anything. If the next week is still in red this EA gets terminated. I already have some potential replacements. More in my weekly review on youtube (not published yet).
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  • #22
  • Nov 21, 2020 12:48pm Nov 21, 2020 12:48pm
Video report for week 2

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  • #23
  • Nov 23, 2020 12:46pm Nov 23, 2020 12:46pm
DAY 11

Like almost all the days before the Red Hawk EA again with red pips. The trades from last night were more than awful. The drawdown gets bigger and bigger. I donīt see any chance that this EA survives this week on the Test Lab.

One trade from the Dynamic Swing trader reached the target. But if you have a look at the open trades youīll see that there is no reason for happiness.

The Guiding Light EA performed again very well after the update on the weekend. It can now come into so-called "Risk-free mega trades". These are break-even stop-loss secured trades, which the EA holds longer than the normal grid trades.

No trades triggered today from Tradingview.

A fantastic setup came from FX Street. The GBPUSD sell trade made over 100 pips today. The entry was finetuned based on the auto trend lines from Metagrid. Besides the Red Hawk EA it was a very good start into this new week.
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  • #24
  • Nov 24, 2020 12:15pm Nov 24, 2020 12:15pm
DAY 12
One of the running trades from Dynamic Swing Trader (SGDJPY) touched today the stop loss. This loser is the reason that the complete day ended with a red number. On top of that one trade is still running (EURJPY sell). If that trade gets stopped out it would produce a loss of -35 Euros. Although I trade the setups only with 0.03 the losses are enormous because the indicator works on the H4 timeframe. My guess is that the stop loss on EURJPY will be touched in the Asia session which will give a huge loss in tomorrow's result. The complete week could end in red. With the exception of the first day of the Forex Test Lab this indicator produced so far very awful results and is for that reason one of the top candidates to leave us by end of the week.

The Red Hawk EA gave profit today. A very rare event! But to be honest: I don't think this EA can reverse the lousy results. It stays also a candidate which could leave us by end of the week.

The Guiding Light EA made today nice little buy trades on GBPCHF and CADCHF. But it entered these pairs one time too often and needed then 4 grids to come back into profit. Sadly it entered 30 minutes ago two not so good buy trades on GBPCHF and GBPJPY. Already 4 grids are opened. This could give maybe the first big grid trade in case that the two currency pairs are dropping tonight.

Tradingview is one of the most constant profit bringers in our Lab. With a GBPUSD sell trade idea, another winner came on my list. It was an entry almost on the pip and a perfect exit for more than 30 pips.

No trade today on FX Street. I missed on setup though.
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  • #25
  • Nov 25, 2020 2:12pm Nov 25, 2020 2:12pm
DAY 13

It was a very quiet day for the test lab systems. If we look at the running trades, the situation is horrible. Like I told you yesterday the Dynamic Swing Trader is the main reason for that. The EJ trade is now 4 pips away from stop loss. Four more trades are running and all are not looking good. Each of them would lose 20 to 30 Euros which would cost us more than the profit we made overall so far. This shows that the Dynamic Swing Trader is not usable on a smaller account with its large H4 trades. Two bad trades can cost the whole profit of the other systems. Nevertheless, it seems the auto-trades on H1 are working better and don't cost you so dearly
if they go wrong. I still observe this. Letīs hope that we donīt lose all of the profit by end of the week because of the bad trades from DST.

The Red Hawk EA today brought in sensational 0.07 Euros. James Bond would be happy. Not me though.

The Guiding Light EA could close last night all the problematic trades but it is at the moment again in a difficult trade. It is a GBPCAD sell trade. The pair goes for hours higher without any retracements which the EA needs so urgent.

A new trade idea from Tradingview is also in red. It is a buy on AUDNZD which went from the second one in the wrong direction.

Very difficult times for our test systems.

FX Street stayed out today again which was once more a good decision.
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  • #26
  • Nov 26, 2020 2:52pm Nov 26, 2020 2:52pm
DAY 14
What I expected yesterday has come true. The EJ sell trade from Dynamic Swing Trader (DST) reached the stop loss and so the massive loss of almost 40 Euro is part of the statistic. There is no chance to come back in profit this week. A big part of the overall profit is also gone. Like I explained yesterday the huge H4 trades from DST do not fit with a 500 Euro account. A loss wipes out too much profit. I have an auto-trader for the DST H1 signals running and for three weeks it makes a profit. Most probably I will give DST the chance to prove that it works on H1 for smaller accounts. So I will end Friday the H4 test and terminate the H4 system. On Monday I start the H1 DST auto-trader in the test lab with again a fresh 500 Euro account. If this makes no profit again the DST will be replaced finally after 2 or 3 weeks.

For sure tomorrow is the last day of the Red Hawk EA at the test lab. The EA did not trade last night. Maybe the best it could do, because there was no loss. The EA couldn't convince me at all. I will tell you at the weekend which system will be the replacement.

Based on todayīs result it looks like the Guiding Light EA was lazy. This is not the case. It traded two Pound pairs against the down move and could at the end close these buy trades to break even.

I had a small loss with an idea from Tradingview. The trade was stopped out on the entry.

No signal or trade idea from FX Street triggered today. They published today a lot of new trade ideas for the next days and weeks. So I hope we will see new trades soon.
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  • #27
  • Nov 26, 2020 7:22pm Nov 26, 2020 7:22pm
Quoting rolandbeck
DAY 14 What I expected yesterday has come true. The EJ sell trade from Dynamic Swing Trader (DST) reached the stop loss and so the massive loss of almost 40 Euro is part of the statistic. There is no chance to come back in profit this week. A big part of the overall profit is also gone. Like I explained yesterday the huge H4 trades from DST do not fit with a 500 Euro account. A loss wipes out too much profit. I have an auto-trader for the DST H1 signals running and for three weeks it makes a profit. Most probably I will give DST the chance to prove...

Got your conclusion, yet still not cutting immediately DST...
Hope died last?
What is the reason?
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #28
  • Nov 29, 2020 8:21am Nov 29, 2020 8:21am
I will delete DST for now from the test lab but will test it on H1 further in the background. If I see that this could work, I will put it back to the test lab. I really like the idea of that indicator.
  • #29
  • Nov 29, 2020 8:21am Nov 29, 2020 8:21am
WEEK 3

Week number three is over and we can clearly see that we have not found so far five perfect matching systems, methods, and signals to make a constant weekly profit. More or less the complete profit of the first two weeks are gone. It was caused by the Dynamic Swing Trader with its massive losses. Like I explained we see now that the huge H4 trades from DST do not fit with a 500 Euro account. The Dynamic Swing Trader gets terminated (for now) and will be replaced on Monday by Agimat Ultra which I will let auto-trade by a Metagrid special version. This was on my request list the most mentioned indicator. And also Ian showed in the Ultra group a method he uses which made some weeks profit. Letīs find out if I can replicate these profits. More about that in my upcoming weekly review video.

The Red Hawk EA also has to leave the test lab. It did not trade at all the last two days. It made rarely profit in the last three weeks. The losses are normally larger than the profit. The developer says, his EA makes money on the long run and not in 2 or 3 weeks. I have some doubts about that based on the way the EA takes trades. But I will add the EA on an account outside the test lab for maybe 6 months and will report after that period of time what happened with the account. But then we know it for sure. The Red Hawk EA will be replaced with a Renko based strategy (more in my video).

The Guiding Light EA had three good days but on Thursday and Friday, it came in larger grid trades. One trade is still running: EURCHF sell which has 8 grids open so far. Now it gets interesting how long it will take to come out of that situation, how many grids it needs, and how much money I need. I already told you that grid EAs need 2000 Euro/Dollar and more.

On Friday the ideas on Tradingview were not good, almost every setup went the wrong way. So we have the first losing week for TradingView.

FXStreet stayed more or less out of the market for the second half of the week. I had one very good trade and in my opinion, it was a good decision to not hunt for new trades this week. Five pending orders are waiting to get filled. I think we will see new trades from FX Street next week. So far I canīt complain about their signals.
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  • #30
  • Nov 29, 2020 1:21pm Nov 29, 2020 1:21pm
Video report for the third week

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  • #31
  • Nov 30, 2020 12:20pm Nov 30, 2020 12:20pm
DAY 16

The Forex Test Lab had a good start with the two fresh systems on the list: Agimat Ultra won itīs first trade even if the trade began not that good. But with the help of the grids, it ended in profit - just like Ian told us. The Renko method had two winning trades. I have to adjust my targets though. I closed the trades after 20 pips but both trades went over 40 pips each. I have to get used to the Renko style with that larger moves :-)

The Guiding Light EA could close overnight the EURCHF sell trade which I showed you in my last video. Now the EA is again in a grid trade with GBPAUD sell. At the moment five grids are open.

No trade triggered on TradingView. The GBPUSD sell trade from FX Street which I showed on my video triggered today and is in a small drawdown at the moment. The target is +30 pips.
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  • #32
  • Dec 2, 2020 3:48am Dec 2, 2020 3:48am
From today on I use the statistic from Forexfactory because it is much easier for me to copy that one instead of the other list.

The only system in trouble is at this point Agimat Ultra. It came into two very bad trades on two euro pairs and we will see if it comes out of that with the help of the 6 grid lines like Ian draws them. The drawdown is relatively high, it remembers me a bit on Dynamic Swing trader It could also close some trades in profit. Closed trades +3.28 / running: -28.11.

Update: The Agimat Ultra test has to be restarted, I had a bug in my Ultra auto-trader beta version. I will explain it tonight. But the grid was not used correctly. Normally the two euro trades had been closed already.

The Renko system had yesterday no entry. So nothing changed here. But I already like these noise-free charts.

The Guiding Light EA were in some grid trades and the overall result since the start is at the moment +53 Euro. So far it came out of the grids every time. Yesterday one trade was in the morning on a -80 Euro drawdown with 10 activated grids. All could be closed then later in a profit. At the moment it is in AUDACD sell and NZDUSD buy. The week's gain is at the moment +3.1% or 17 Euros.

TradingView had a small winner yesterday. It is up 0.9% for the week. USDCAD buy could trigger today.

I had really bad luck with the GBPUSD sell trade from Fx Street. It triggered and the target was +30 pips. Overnight, while I was sleeping, it missed that target by 1.5 pips and turned then completely against me. It was then 5 pips away from stop loss when I was back on my computer. Later the day it came again back to my entry and I closed it almost break even.

The long term test for the Red Hawk EA began great. It won the first two days almost all trades and it is now on a weekly gain of +1.6%
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  • #33
  • Dec 2, 2020 3:04pm Dec 2, 2020 3:04pm
For my todayīs report, I begin with Agimat Ultra. Unfortunately, I have to restart the test. My Ultra auto-trader had a bug. It secured the grids after a while with a break-even stop loss. With this, the grids got destroyed. In the morning two trades were without any grid. They had no chance to come in profit again. With an intact grid, it would have been possible to close them profitable. The other three trades ended with a profit. I had to close the two destroyed trades with -15 Euro. It would be unfair to let these negative trades in the statistic as it is not the fault of the system. So I restart tomorrow the Agimat Ultra test again with a 500 Euro start balance.

]Overall it was a not so good day for our systems in the test lab. Both trades on the Renko system were losers. But it is much too early to judge this system after two days of using it.

The trade ideas from TradingView are really bad at the moment. Since one week all trade ideas are losers. The overall profit is down from 21% to 7%. It looks like the market does exactly the opposite of the trade ideas.

The Guiding Light EA is still working on the EURNZD sell trade. It was -35 Euro in the morning and with the help of the grid retracements, it is now at -2.50. I hope the EA can close this trade overnight. With other trades, the EA made +1.44 Euro.

Three signals/trade ideas from FX Street triggered today and so far they are at -10.30 Euro overall. There is a EURGBP sell, EURUSD sell and NZDCHF buy. EG and NC are in profit, but the EU trade is at -13 Euro. If EU goes tomorrow further up it could get ugly for this trade. The forecast from FX Street is that EU canīt go further up and will drop now, especially because it does this every year between December and February. We will see if EU knows that!
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  • #34
  • Dec 4, 2020 8:17am Dec 4, 2020 8:17am
On Thursday the restart of the Agimat Ultra test began well. The bug is now fixed and the auto-trader takes the signals as it should. It banked so far 5 Euros.

The Guiding Light EA had no problems coming through all trades this week. It made this week 19.33 Euro. Since the start of the test lab, it made +61 Euro. Because no trade was running on Friday morning I turned the EA off. Today we heave the NFP and it is best to not use a grid EA on such a day.

I missed on Thursday a perfect entry with the Renko system. I canceled the entry too early and then USDCAD moved without me 40 pips. So I still have to practice this method more!

The sad news is coming from our two external analysis sites: The newest ideas from Tradingview which I chose were again losers and so all the gain of 21% is lost now. Every analysis from the last 10 days was totally wrong. TradingView is now a top candidate to leave us. I give it one more week though.

While on TradingView mostly amateur traders show their analysis the paid signals from FX street are made by pro traders. Does this make it better? It seems not. They told on their site that EURUSD canīt go any higher now. But it did the last two days. The result is that the EURUSD sell trade is at -42 Euro at the moment. It is a longer-term trade. If that one goes wrong it will cost me 60 to 70 Euro. If that happens I would terminate the FX street signals. The EURGBP signal was a winner though with + 8.28 Euro. The NZDCHF buy trade ended break even.

The results of the long-term test of the Red Hawk EA are totally different from the results from the test lab: The EA did not lose a single day in this week and made 9 Euro with a fixed lot size 0f 0.02 on a 250 Euro live account.

As you know I also still test the Dynamic Swing Trade indicator with an auto-trader on H1. I added it to a 20 Euro live account, yeah donīt laugh. The account is now at 28 Euro. Only one loser this week. Maybe we will see a comeback of the DST! Sorry that I canīt give you a live statistic for it because Forexfactory does now allow more than 8 trade explorers.On Thursday the restart of the Agimat Ultra test began well. The bug is now fixed and the auto-trader takes the signals as it should. It banked so far 5 Euros.

The Guiding Light EA had no problems coming through all trades this week. It made this week 19.33 Euro. Since the start of the test lab, it made +61 Euro. Because no trade was running on Friday morning I turned the EA off. Today we heave the NFP and it is best to not use a grid EA on such a day.

I missed on Thursday a perfect entry with the Renko system. I canceled the entry too early and then USDCAD moved without me 40 pips. So I still have to practice this method more!

The sad news is coming from our two external analysis sites: The newest ideas from Tradingview which I chose were again losers and so all the gain of 21% is lost now. Every analysis from the last 10 days was totally wrong. TradingView is now a top candidate to leave us. I give it one more week though.

While on TradingView mostly amateur traders show their analysis the paid signals from FX street are made by pro traders. Does this make it better? It seems not. They told on their site that EURUSD canīt go any higher now. But it did the last two days. The result is that the EURUSD sell trade is at -42 Euro at the moment. It is a longer-term trade. If that one goes wrong it will cost me 60 to 70 Euro. If that happens I would terminate the FX street signals. The EURGBP signal was a winner though with + 8.28 Euro. The NZDCHF buy trade ended break even.

The results of the long-term test of the Red Hawk EA are totally different from the results from the test lab: The EA did not lose a single day in this week and made 9 Euro with a fixed lot size 0f 0.02 on a 250 Euro live account.

As you know I also still test the Dynamic Swing Trade indicator with an auto-trader on H1. I added it to a 20 Euro live account, yeah donīt laugh. The account is now at 28 Euro. Only one loser this week. Maybe we will see a comeback of the DST! Sorry that I canīt give you a live statistic for it because Forexfactory does now allow more than 8 trade explorers.
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  • #35
  • Dec 6, 2020 9:26am Dec 6, 2020 9:26am
WEEK 4 / Month 1

Can you believe it?! A full month of the Forex Test Lab is already over.

TradingView crashed our weekly result totally. With a result of -80.55 Euro. Every trade idea I took from their website ended with a loser. The "highlight" (haha) was a USDCAD buy trade which ended with a disaster. The problem is in my opinion that everyone who wants can publish any trade idea on TradingView - regardless of how stupid the idea is. Most probably I will replace TradingView, I have to think about it for some more hours. But such a big minus is hard to compensate for. I already got from William an interesting signal service, which could be a good replacement. More on Monday.

I had turned off the Guiding Light EA on Friday because of the NFP release. The EA made almost 20 Euro profit this week and there was no need to risk this money on the crazy Friday.

The Renko trading style is nice. I like the clean chart but I have to practice more to find entries. This is the reason for the small profit. I will go into more trades in the new week.

As you maybe saw I had to restart the Agimat Ultra test on Wednesday. My Agimat Ultra auto-trader had a bug, which caused that the trades got closed too early. Now all is working fine and the test is running as it should. Agimat Ultra had no bigger problems this week, two trades needed the grids to end in profit. It is too early to make conclusions.

With FX Street I had mixed emotions this week. The weekly profit is nice with almost 10 Euro. At the moment a bigger EURUSD sell trade is running. They told that EU canīt go any higher now and that EU at this time of the year gets normally weaker anyway. But after the sell trade was opened EU went 50 pips higher instead of going down. My trade was -42 Euro in minus. On Friday EU began to go down a bit and with the end of the trading week, my trade was at -6 Euro. If EU goes further down this could bring a lot of pips or the next disaster if EU stays that strong.
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  • #36
  • Dec 7, 2020 12:41pm Dec 7, 2020 12:41pm
DAY 21 - Forex Text Lab

Today I gave TradingView another chance. And again it failed. All trade ideas I took from the website today were losers again. This makes 14 losers in a row from the TradingView trade ideas. This is bad, really bad. With the trade ideas from TradingView, I lost over 80 euros in 21 days. I decided for that reason to stop the tests with TradingView. It is the first system that has to leave us completely. Yes, I removed Red Hawk EA and Dynamic Swing Trader too - but both systems are still on other accounts for long-term testings.

It is in my opinion not worth following the trade ideas from TradingView, in fact, it can destroy money. Everyone who wants can share on the site any trade idea and that makes it in my opinion so dangerous. You can get a lot of false ideas. No doubt the chart tools from TradingView are great for analyzing. But the trade ideas from the community are not.

So one spot is free again on the test lab. And this spot gets filled with a signal service William brought up in the telegram channel. It is "DailyFx Signal VIP". They send out 4-7 signals every day and on their free channel they show on many days 100, 200 even 300 pips winners. Is that real or fake? We will find that out with that live test. I begin tomorrow using their signals on a live account.

The paid signals from FX Street made my day. The EURUSD trade reached the target today with +24 Euro. Later there was an AUDCAD sell trade which also reached the target for +20 pips. I used for that trade a smaller lot size. FX Street is now together with the Guiding Light EA the strongest system in our test lab. The quality of the signals was really good for the last 3 weeks. Yeah, I had some doubts about that EU trade as you know. But well, they were right!

The Guiding Light EA had it not easy today. He traded all day long AUD pairs and did not find the best entries. It took the whole day for the EA to come out of the trades at a break-even level. But better than losers!

On Agimat Ultra there was no trade today.

I had a small trade with the Renko system but there seems to be a problem with the Metagrid Renko beta version. It stopped my trade after one candle. Which was not the target. I have to look into this.
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  • #37
  • Dec 9, 2020 1:50pm Dec 9, 2020 1:50pm
DAY 23
So far our systems in the test lab banked good profit this week. But we have a high red number on the open trades.

Yesterday I removed TradingView and replaced it with the signals from DailyFX VIP. Sometimes the entries from them are a bit too early in my opinion. But so far nothing to complain about. After two days the signals banked 16 Euro. Two trades are open though. AUDUSD sell and CHFJPY sell.

With FX Street I had today first a wonderful buy trade on Gold but then the NZDUSD buy trade destroyed that profit again. The day ended with a small minus. But FX Street brought this week already good money.

No trade on Agimat Ultra again.

Finally, I found the bug on the Metagrid Renko version. I traded the last nine days only with 0.01 because the trade manager closed the trades always in the wrong places. Now that bug is fixed and I can begin to use the Renko system as I wanted.

The Guiding Light EA was in a good mood today. It came into several risk-free trades. But then it could not resist opening again a sell trade on EURNZD. If you followed the charts today, you know that NZD crashed. And so the sell trade from the Guiding Light EA is not in a good condition. Already eight grids are active. Only one could be closed so far. But there was literally not retracement since the up move. It gets interesting with that trade. Tomorrow we have the ECB meeting, if the Euro gets another push up this could bring the EA in big trouble for a while. But if the Euro gets weak tomorrow this could bring me out of that bad trade.
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  • #38
  • Dec 10, 2020 12:22pm Dec 10, 2020 12:22pm
DAY 24

I can make it very quick today. All systems were lazy Market conditions were far beyond good today. Only the Guiding Light EA tried some trades and could not make a profit today.

The two running trades from DailyFX VIP are still in a bad condition. They moved today the stop-loss from the AUDUSD sell trade from 100 to 200 pips. If they always move the stop-loss further away we will end with a lot of big red open trades. We will see. On their channel, they posted today a lot of winning trades. But these are older trades. I donīt have them. I joined them 3 days ago.

A new signal triggered some minutes ago on Fx Street. An NZDCHF sell trade.
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  • #39
  • Dec 13, 2020 8:35am Dec 13, 2020 8:35am
DAY 25
Thatīs what I want to see: On Friday all systems made a profit. The complete week was good after I stopped using the trade ideas from TradingView on Monday. It was the first system that I removed completely. 14 losers in a row were enough...

I also stopped all testings with the Dynamic Swing Trader indicator. As you know I used an auto-trader that took the H1 signals. After 3 good weeks, the profit was lost in this week again. Basically, it happened the same as on the H4 test lab account. So this indicator is out too.

Agimat Ultra traded only on Friday. Small profit, but better than a big loser. And I had two winners with the Renko system.

This week I added the signals from DailyFX VIP into the Test Lab. The profit was very good. The open trades are a bit worrying though. We have to see how that develops in the next weeks.

The signals from FX Street were very good this week. Nothing to complain.

The Guiding Light EA made less profit this week than the week before. On the last two trading days this week, the EA came into not so good trades. It took a bit to come out of that trades. But the EA is still the number 1 system after 5 weeks, the second place goes to FX Street.

The Red Hawk EA made +2.04 Euro this week on the long-term test account. The account balance is up to 260.94 (start: 250 Euro).
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  • #40
  • Dec 14, 2020 11:04am Dec 14, 2020 11:04am
DAY 26

Here are the results for Monday. Today I have not that much time for a longer text. But you can see that we had a difficult start to the new trading week. All systems have open trades with a red number.

The best performer was today Daily FX VIP.
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