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  • #1,581
  • Oct 23, 2020 10:17am Oct 23, 2020 10:17am
Quoting Kh.suleman
what about gold please tell
in my opinion from here gold is likely to go down to about 1450 level...
  • #1,582
  • Oct 23, 2020 1:47pm Oct 23, 2020 1:47pm
Quoting Igrok
{quote} in my opinion from here gold is likely to go down to about 1450 level...
Most unlikely opinion is the best pay off.
  • #1,583
  • Oct 24, 2020 6:44am Oct 24, 2020 6:44am
Quoting Igrok
{quote} in my opinion from here gold is likely to go down to about 1450 level...
silver in this scenario will be 13-11--9?
It may be that commodities will be subject to inflation, with the price of silver remaining at 25-40.
What do you think?
  • #1,584
  • Oct 26, 2020 2:12am Oct 26, 2020 2:12am
Quoting Stas73
{quote} silver in this scenario will be 13-11--9? It may be that commodities will be subject to inflation, with the price of silver remaining at 25-40. What do you think?
sorry, I think nothing about silver...
  • #1,585
  • Edited 9:40am Oct 26, 2020 8:11am | Edited 9:40am
Igrok, and about USD/Chinese Yuan. What do you say? Do you observe it? Is its daily range as high as 637 pips on 26 oct 2020? An expert at tradingview.com has idea that USD/CNH isnow closeto year low level and if it stays below the level and accumulates there then likely to fall.
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  • #1,586
  • Oct 30, 2020 2:35pm Oct 30, 2020 2:35pm
Quoting moarty
Igrok, and about USD/Chinese Yuan. What do you say? Do you observe it? Is its daily range as high as 637 pips on 26 oct 2020? An expert at tradingview.com has idea that USD/CNH isnow closeto year low level and if it stays below the level and accumulates there then likely to fall. {image}
nothing special there...
  • #1,587
  • Oct 30, 2020 11:21pm Oct 30, 2020 11:21pm
HI Igor, how do you see the US Presidential elections playing out ?? Perhaps a Biden win ? What then ? Keen to hear your perspective and educated guess around the next couple of months and what it may mean for Markets also.
  • #1,588
  • Nov 1, 2020 7:58am Nov 1, 2020 7:58am
The stock market will never have and end and that is the truth. IT is not just an independent market but runs on other things too. It is even linked with other markets and for as long as the other markets are in place, the stock market will never come to an end. Then again we have to consider that fact that even with the state the world is in, the market did not fluctuate to a very bad position but is gradually getting back to its previous state. The stock market may come to an end but it is never going to happen at this moment but way further into the future.
  • #1,589
  • Edited 5:39am Nov 2, 2020 5:14am | Edited 5:39am
Quoting Edd111111
HI Igor, how do you see the US Presidential elections playing out ?? Perhaps a Biden win ? What then ? Keen to hear your perspective and educated guess around the next couple of months and what it may mean for Markets also.
it doesn't really matter who will become the president and how... the outcome of those elections will not be able to change anything in regards to the markets... on a bigger picture those are the most probable scenarios for DJI and S&P... and in any case revising 2009 bottom levels looks like a must to me regardless of any forthcoming events or circumstance ...
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  • #1,590
  • Nov 3, 2020 1:16am Nov 3, 2020 1:16am
Thanks Igor, The Dow looks to have a significant sharp drops in the not to distant future and to think that the 2009 lows are revisited at a later date certainly implies a great deal more value removed from the markets, given the time (and work done ?) elapsed from the previous visit to those levels. With frantic printing going on globally and interest rates near 0 and jobs declining or at the very least under employment increasing it would be a challenge to successfully implement digital currency in many countries. During these times (historically) less oversight is required to get money moving. Do you or those who you are working with have any particular views on violence from or grown within China ? Thanks again for your time and contributions to this thread it certainly can be said that there is interesting times ahead...
  • #1,591
  • Edited 1:44am Nov 3, 2020 1:25am | Edited 1:44am
Quoting Igrok
{quote} it doesn't really matter who will become the president and how... the outcome of those elections will not be able to change anything in regards to the markets... on a bigger picture those are the most probable scenarios for DJI and S&P... and in any case revising 2009 bottom levels looks like a must to me regardless of any forthcoming events or circumstance ... {image} {image}
I agree, market does not care about president. It has gone up no matter if it is republican or democrat, only Bush years were negative for US stocks.
But 2009 levels? Wouldnīt there be even more printing, stimulus and turning money into toilet paper? Collapse to 2009 would be public hysteria and "end of the world". Many people would lose everything. Canīt imagine.
Markets will move to the right.
  • #1,592
  • Nov 3, 2020 2:30pm Nov 3, 2020 2:30pm
Quoting FraterRedox
{quote} I agree, market does not care about president. It has gone up no matter if it is republican or democrat, only Bush years were negative for US stocks. But 2009 levels? Wouldnīt there be even more printing, stimulus and turning money into toilet paper? Collapse to 2009 would be public hysteria and "end of the world". Many people would lose everything. Canīt imagine.
I know how to read charts and this is what is written all over them... on the other hand Mr. Khazin in his new book explained everything in macroeconomic and historic perspective why it's inevitable.... I totally agree with his views... https://www.amazon.com/Crisis-capital-effectiveness-useless-solve-ebook/dp/B08KCC878V/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=crisis+of+capital+effectiveness&qid=1601806153&sr=8-1
  • #1,593
  • Nov 3, 2020 3:06pm Nov 3, 2020 3:06pm
Quoting Igrok
{quote} it doesn't really matter who will become the president and how... the outcome of those elections will not be able to change anything in regards to the markets... on a bigger picture those are the most probable scenarios for DJI and S&P... and in any case revising 2009 bottom levels looks like a must to me regardless of any forthcoming events or circumstance ... {image} {image}
Igrok
Have you paid any attention to FAANG stocks such as Amazon, Facebook, etc? Would you consider those a safe haven?
  • #1,594
  • Nov 3, 2020 3:27pm Nov 3, 2020 3:27pm
Quoting broomstick
{quote} Igrok Have you paid any attention to FAANG stocks such as Amazon, Facebook, etc? Would you consider those a safe haven?
first, I'm a speculator and not an investor... second, as the stocks will go down the drain and therefore better be shorted...
  • #1,595
  • Nov 5, 2020 1:56am Nov 5, 2020 1:56am
Seeing the result of the election and the reaction of the markets the mister grigok 's perspective doesn t look good or valid any more..i guess..with all big respect for him and for his great job that he's doing for us/everybody in and out of here..the markets are showing an extreme power and resilience.i think that will see soon or later more soon than later 46k for sp500 that is more or less the v formation projection of the pic and the bottom january/march.good luck i wish the best everybody
  • #1,596
  • Nov 5, 2020 7:21am Nov 5, 2020 7:21am
Quoting dieguito80
Seeing the result of the election and the reaction of the markets the mister grigok 's perspective doesn t look good or valid any more..i guess..with all big respect for him and for his great job that he's doing for us/everybody in and out of here..the markets are showing an extreme power and resilience.i think that will see soon or later more soon than later 46k for sp500 that is more or less the v formation projection of the pic and the bottom january/march.good luck i wish the best everybody
nothing has changed... the projection is valid...
  • #1,597
  • Nov 5, 2020 2:11pm Nov 5, 2020 2:11pm
Hello Igrok,
What is your projection?
Will you please post a graph?
Regards
Marc


Quoting Igrok
{quote} nothing has changed... the projection is valid...
  • #1,598
  • Nov 5, 2020 2:24pm Nov 5, 2020 2:24pm
All the coins are going to have the same value.
  • #1,599
  • Nov 6, 2020 1:28am Nov 6, 2020 1:28am
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  • #1,600
  • Nov 6, 2020 3:32pm Nov 6, 2020 3:32pm
Quoting marcb
Hello Igrok, What is your projection? Will you please post a graph? Regards Marc {quote}
I just did... on this very page... two charts... S&P and DJI...
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