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  • #2,681
  • Oct 12, 2020 2:04pm Oct 12, 2020 2:04pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Swede With our new lockdown rules announced today I think if we hold off a while, we just might get an offer of Buy one get one free for our Aston Martins {image}
My 2 cents on Dave John Deere Chart
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  • #2,682
  • Oct 12, 2020 2:07pm Oct 12, 2020 2:07pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Swede With our new lockdown rules announced today I think if we hold off a while, we just might get an offer of Buy one get one free for our Aston Martins {image}
I was just going to comment on your last JD post and pooff...it was gone

Yes John Deere is about as good ad it gets in the Ag market...their product mix is beyond all their competitors, and Ag business is real good now and going forward....what a buy they were at ...around a 100 bucks during the initial Covid scare....look at them today. My son-in-law loaded up on Tesla about that time also at around 240, now after a split 2 for 1 and a price around 370....he should be taking us free on the next cruise (ya like that's going to happen lol lol)i

Great Companies return great results, in this case fundamentals really come into play....great product,great process and production, great strong dealers, and a world that needs to be fed..(using great equipment that is)
  • #2,683
  • Oct 12, 2020 2:08pm Oct 12, 2020 2:08pm
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  • #2,684
  • Oct 12, 2020 2:09pm Oct 12, 2020 2:09pm
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  • #2,685
  • Oct 12, 2020 2:12pm Oct 12, 2020 2:12pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} My 2 cents on Dave John Deere Chart {image}
so parisboy....what does that mean to you?...4 parbolic moves...im curious honestly
  • #2,686
  • Oct 12, 2020 2:30pm Oct 12, 2020 2:30pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} I was just going to comment on your last JD post and pooff...it was gone Yes John Deere is about as good ad it gets in the Ag market...their product mix is beyond all their competitors, and Ag business is real good now and going forward....what a buy they were at ...around a 100 bucks during the initial Covid scare....look at them today. My son-in-law loaded up on Tesla about that time also at around 240, now after a split 2 for 1 and a price around 370....he should be taking us free on the next cruise (ya like that's going to happen lol...
Swede
I tend to delete my posts if there is no interest in them, and meaning that this thread probably contains the best brains of all the threads and is obviously more interested in FX than Shares, I am very mindful of straying off topic with my dumb ass posts, it was just that I liked your views on Gann as I believe he was a Stock Trader
  • #2,687
  • Oct 12, 2020 2:39pm Oct 12, 2020 2:39pm
Quoting Swede
{quote} so parisboy....what does that mean to you?...4 parbolic moves...im curious honestly
You can observe the gowth of the Price Action Fractal
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  • #2,688
  • Oct 12, 2020 2:41pm Oct 12, 2020 2:41pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Swede I tend to delete my posts if there is no interest in them, and meaning that this thread probably contains the best brains of all the threads and is obviously more interested in FX than Shares, I am very mindful of straying off topic with my dumb ass posts, it was just that I liked your views on Gann as I believe he was a Stock Trader
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  • #2,689
  • Edited 3:44pm Oct 12, 2020 2:47pm | Edited 3:44pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Swede I tend to delete my posts if there is no interest in them, and meaning that this thread probably contains the best brains of all the threads and is obviously more interested in FX than Shares, I am very mindful of straying off topic with my dumb ass posts, it was just that I liked your views on Gann as I believe he was a Stock Trader
Gann was first a Commodity Trader. Corn, Cotton, Coffee, Wheat

Gann becomes a Stock Analyst when the Dow Jones took prededence in the speculation world (due to the growth of the economy Steel, Railways, Mining, Coal, Airlines, )

Gann followed the money.

Notice that Gann do not use "Gann Angles " or "Gann Lines (Octaves) in these charts

Hence when Jenkins speaks about his "Secret" Angle IMHO he is wrong.

The real "secret" of Gann is what he did not show to the public ; Angles and Octaves Jenkins and Murrey are just heirs using derivatives of Gann real methodology
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  • #2,690
  • Oct 12, 2020 3:21pm Oct 12, 2020 3:21pm
Post 2679 showed to reconfigure your fib tool to determine a division of the swing by 8

The next step is to square the time factor by 8 and for that your reconfigure your fib time tab...

go to Insert Tab, then Fib Time, open parameters, fibo levels and add is those missing....4, 6, 7, 9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16.

Now, when you place that on your chart, make sure number 8 corresponds with Level 8 on you octave tool.....as you can see the extention and the height of each Octave are identical....this is a proper grid and it is easy as 123 even with mt4...

ps...yes with Oil falling, and price bouncing off 75 level...decided to take my marbles and wait on the sideline for a bit.
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  • #2,691
  • Oct 12, 2020 3:40pm Oct 12, 2020 3:40pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Gann was first a Commodity Trader. Corn, Cotton, Coffee, Wheat Gann becomes a Stock Analyst when the Dow Jones took prededence in the speculation world (due to the growth of the economy Steel, Railways, Mining, Coal, Airlines, ) Gann followed the money. Notice that Gann do not use "Gann Angles " or "Gann Lines (Octaves) in these charts Hence when Jenkins speaks about his "Secret" Ange IMHO he is wrong. The real "secret" of Gann is what he did not show ; Angles and Octaves jenkins and Murey are just heirs using derivatives of Gann real methodology...
nice shares thanks ! images look like embroidery !
If I don't mention SL and/or TP = longer-term setup possibly in the works!
  • #2,692
  • Oct 12, 2020 4:03pm Oct 12, 2020 4:03pm
My simple thoughts are
In Gann's day data was limited so being a Commodities Trader he was cute enough to use the weather and season patterns
We now have Satellites that track every movement of a cloud, raindrop, or wind movement
We can now with a fair degree of accuracy predict how much oil in a well before we drill, same with mining industry, even know the crop yields before harvesting
I guess its called Technology
All this data is now available, admittedly some times you have look under a few stones
So in my view and Swede demonstrated it with his knowledge of John Deere, also with tools and techniques learnt from a few good guys, I know which direction and interest my trading is now turning too
Thanks guys
  • #2,693
  • Oct 12, 2020 4:15pm Oct 12, 2020 4:15pm
For the Fun WIPRO (WIT) to follow:

Can we forecast that the bearish trend will continue ?

IF your answer is YES are we soon in a Short position ?
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  • #2,694
  • Oct 12, 2020 4:27pm Oct 12, 2020 4:27pm
WIPRO Bearish Projection

IF Market Conditions stay stable : Next significant Low Mid-September 2021 around 1.50

This means that Average Cycles Amplitude and Periods stay stable or that their variations cancelled each other

Present price 5.41

This trade could offer a - 75 % opportunity in 1 year

I am not an Option Specialist .... but ....
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  • #2,695
  • Oct 12, 2020 5:04pm Oct 12, 2020 5:04pm
Quoting OAPDave
My simple thoughts are In Gann's day data was limited so being a Commodities Trader he was cute enough to use the weather and season patterns We now have Satellites that track every movement of a cloud, raindrop, or wind movement We can now with a fair degree of accuracy predict how much oil in a well before we drill, same with mining industry, even know the crop yields before harvesting I guess its called Technology All this data is now available, admittedly some times you have look under a few stones So in my view and Swede demonstrated it with...
I have always admired Warren Buffet...not because he is rich, not because he is friends with Gates and like billionaires, but because of his sense of reasoning. One of his favorite sayings is "buy when the market is fearful, sell when the market is greedy"...He wouldn't be buying airline shares just yet (he just divested all his airlines) because the market for airlines wont change until the covid19 thing is controlled....but would he be a buyer of John Deere...absolutely back at the 100 dollar mark they were a give away because he knows farming and farm equipment (his brother owns a large MF dealership) and he comes from Nebraska, home of mega farming and he knows how to read a spreadsheet., had I not been up to my knees in other investments I would have been a buyer also...and a seller very soon because there will be a pullback to another buy level....the stock market is real greedy right now....just wait for the results of the election, and the fall out of Covid19. That is my up to the minute opinion based on nothing more than years and scars, greed and optimisum..ha ha...
  • #2,696
  • Oct 12, 2020 5:46pm Oct 12, 2020 5:46pm
So, once you have your Octaves and fib times in place...you now have a future pattern to watch...and you can set some major trendlines like the 1x1, 4 x 1, etc...

here is the Cable 1 hour since the last swing...if it breaks north you know the area to get long, if it breaks south you have many levels to watch, at the very least you can predetermine potential moves like to the center of gravity(50%) etc.
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  • #2,697
  • Oct 12, 2020 5:55pm Oct 12, 2020 5:55pm
or you may want to start your analyses beginning at the start of the impulse wave that created this move...
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  • #2,698
  • Oct 12, 2020 5:59pm Oct 12, 2020 5:59pm
JOHN DEERE Composite Cycle

Our Roadmap anticipate a Target in the vicinity of 100 (from 236.52 today) ...... in the Summer of 2026 !
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  • #2,699
  • Oct 13, 2020 12:48am Oct 13, 2020 12:48am
Hi Swede,
I have question , when we draw line or trend ,we always start from number 8 with square one then draw line form there .Is that correct ? Thanks Swede, for explain very detail how to draw the line, I though i can not do that , now I can .Thanks again
  • #2,700
  • Oct 13, 2020 12:51am Oct 13, 2020 12:51am
I saw Gann drawing we can have square like fibo ,can we use Gann or we should not ?
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