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  • #281
  • Sep 4, 2020 9:56am Sep 4, 2020 9:56am
Another NAIL, into the fool's coffin?

Closing with hedge, with the close by function, spread can be ALMOST ELIMINATED.

It can be set, the spread to be 0.0 in order to close. Or 0.1... whatever.

The close by can WAIT, for the targeted SPREAD VALUE TO APPEAR, and THEN start closing the trades. Imagine if there are many trades to be closed?!?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #282
  • Sep 4, 2020 10:38am Sep 4, 2020 10:38am
Outside of US accounts the criticisms leveled at locking or r-hedging is from a strategy standpoint.

Instead of saying apply r-hedging in the correct way, it's better to demonstrate with a chart what that correct way means.

Clarify in detail. From both sides.
Know what you trade
  • #283
  • Sep 4, 2020 4:17pm Sep 4, 2020 4:17pm
There are only 3 positions a trader can be in this market.
You are either net long, net short or flat.
People who claim their are in a hedged position are really fucking stupid.
I got one word for you EQUITY, you can fuck with everything else in trading, you can fuck with your statistics, you can fuck with your balance you can make them appear as any way you like, you can say that you can almost eliminate the spreads and you can say whatever you want.
But you cannot fuck with your EQUITY, i garantee you that if you open a trade the spread that you HAVE to pay will show on your equity, the loss that you had when you hedged even if its still doesnt show in your balance it is on your equity, most hedgers look everywhere but they dont look at their equity, if they did they wouldnt say the stupid shit they say here.
  • #284
  • Sep 4, 2020 9:45pm Sep 4, 2020 9:45pm
Quoting STrading
There are only 3 positions a trader can be in this market. You are either net long, net short or flat. People who claim their are in a hedged position are really fucking stupid. I got one word for you EQUITY, you can fuck with everything else in trading, you can fuck with your statistics, you can fuck with your balance you can make them appear as any way you like, you can say that you can almost eliminate the spreads and you can say whatever you want. But you cannot fuck with your EQUITY, i garantee you that if you open a trade the spread that you...
You are, of course, exactly correct. But apparently, according to one participant here whose initials are MZ, it is possible for a "hedged" trade to increase equity as long as it's not closed. I assume he's a witch or a wizard or something. But yeah, that's all bullshit and "hedging" is for fucking chumps and idiots.
  • #285
  • Sep 4, 2020 10:06pm Sep 4, 2020 10:06pm
Quoting GEfx
You are, of course, exactly correct. But apparently, according to one participant here whose initials are MZ, it is possible for a "hedged" trade to increase equity as long as it's not closed. I assume he's a witch or a wizard or something. But yeah, that's all bullshit and "hedging" is for fucking chumps and idiots.
And the fucking chumps and idiots with their genius multi-colored lines are getting under your skin, both GEfx and nubcake.
Know what you trade
  • #286
  • Sep 4, 2020 11:01pm Sep 4, 2020 11:01pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} And the fucking chumps and idiots with their genius multi-colored lines are getting under your skin, both GEfx and nubcake.

Perhaps the question should be..... 'why' are they so concerned with people looking at Hedging, nedging...or whatever they want to call it.
I couldn't give a stuff who wants to give it a try. It doesn't bother me, how about you BWilliam?
Their response with heated F words etc in a debate on a forum, just doesn't add up. Not necessary. Not the first time a hedging thread has drawn
the same response. I don't believe for one moment they are concerned that a trader may pay extra for a locking trade.
To suggest that the thread just die, why? No damage is done by discussing the practice of locking a trade.
I think indicators as a whole are a complete waste of time, not without understanding market structure but am I going to suggest that a thread should close, of course not.
  • #287
  • Sep 4, 2020 11:14pm Sep 4, 2020 11:14pm
Quoting pa18
Let's say your target is 10 pips, as a scalper. Your normal risk per trade is 2%. Don't worry about the RR, scalpers normally aren't but say 10 pip emergency stop. For hedging, you spilt the risk, 1% risk buy, 1% risk sell. You place a perfect hedge, once you open a buy position, a sell position is also opened. It goes up 5, close sell position, let it ride to target. Obviously, lower profits but the point is that it's safer IF the market conditions such as slippage and spread are perfect. Anyone tried? Sounds fun but messy.
maybe or maybe not, you might get your answer form him Billytt.
based on statistic and frequent distribution a particular time frame moves 20 pips. Just grab 10 pips is very good. But just grab 5 pips is the best. 1 pip = £100.
If the trade failed, he will salvage it with edging, dedging as long as it is dging dging dging to the bank
  • #288
  • Sep 5, 2020 2:16am Sep 5, 2020 2:16am
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} And the fucking chumps and idiots with their genius multi-colored lines are getting under your skin, both GEfx and nubcake.
Not even a little.

It's just fun to point out the idiots, because it's not only us who are posting who are viewing this shit. A lot of people out there are silently shaking their heads along with us. Maybe somewhere someone will see this shit and not become another FF sperg, and maybe one day they'll post something interesting. Or not.

My hope is one day some of these clowns have an epiphany: "Oh, shit. It is ME who is the dumb fuck! They were right all along!!!". It won't happen, but it's nice to dream.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #289
  • Sep 5, 2020 2:19am Sep 5, 2020 2:19am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Perhaps the question should be..... 'why' are they so concerned with people looking at Hedging, nedging...or whatever they want to call it. I couldn't give a stuff who wants to give it a try. It doesn't bother me, how about you BWilliam? Their response with heated F words etc in a debate on a forum, just doesn't add up. Not necessary. Not the first time a hedging thread has drawn the same response. I don't believe for one moment they are concerned that a trader may pay extra for a locking trade. To suggest that the thread just die, why?...
Yes, yes. Take the high road. So impressive.

Yes, let's talk more about things that do not exist and which show mental deficiencies in those who champion them. Great thread!

I'd like to discuss how shadows on the ground speak to me, and inform whether to buy, sell, or BUY AND SELL LIKE AT THE SAME TIME LIKE A REAL PRO. Good topic?
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #290
  • Sep 5, 2020 5:28am Sep 5, 2020 5:28am
Quoting nubcake
{quote} Yes, yes. Take the high road. So impressive. Yes, let's talk more about things that do not exist and which show mental deficiencies in those who champion them. Great thread! I'd like to discuss how shadows on the ground speak to me, and inform whether to buy, sell, or BUY AND SELL LIKE AT THE SAME TIME LIKE A REAL PRO. Good topic?

Something brings you back, and you and I both know that you won't leave until the thread ends up in the recycle bin.
  • #291
  • Sep 5, 2020 7:12am Sep 5, 2020 7:12am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Perhaps the question should be..... 'why' are they so concerned with people looking at Hedging, nedging...or whatever they want to call it. I couldn't give a stuff who wants to give it a try. It doesn't bother me, how about you BWilliam? Their response with heated F words etc in a debate on a forum, just doesn't add up. Not necessary. Not the first time a hedging thread has drawn the same response. I don't believe for one moment they are concerned that a trader may pay extra for a locking trade. To suggest that the thread just die, why?...
No the question is why you guys fail to anwser simple question, or fail to explain why we are wrong.
In a previous comment that i did:
"Its a very simple concept i wonder why people have so much trouble understanding this.
You open a position lets say buy 1 lot, you close the position the brokers sells 1 lot for you.
You open a position lets say buy 1 lot, you hedge the position, sell 1 lot.
Its the exact same fucking shit that as been done in both situations, the rest is just bullshit."
Please explain what is wrong with what i said, witch part is not correct?
Also:
"There are only 3 positions a trader can be in this market.
You are either net long, net short or flat."
Same thing, what is wrong with what i said?
You and the other guys want us to be wrong but you cant explain as to why we are wrong.
  • #292
  • Sep 5, 2020 7:36am Sep 5, 2020 7:36am
Quoting STrading
{quote} No the question is why you guys fail to anwser simple question, or fail to explain why we are wrong. In a previous comment that i did: "Its a very simple concept i wonder why people have so much trouble understanding this. You open a position lets say buy 1 lot, you close the position the brokers sells 1 lot for you. You open a position lets say buy 1 lot, you hedge the position, sell 1 lot. Its the exact same fucking shit that as been done in both situations, the rest is just bullshit." Please explain what is wrong with what i said, witch...
To quote you, who gives a shit. You are absolutely right. Can’t argue with you. Glad that’s sorted.
Now are you going to move on and let people chat about whatever they want, or is it your mission to disrupt and see the thread removed to the recycle bin like all the other threads the brokers are not keen on. Who the fuck gives you the right to impose your will onto other members of the forum. Nothing within Forex Factory rules suggest that hedging cannot be discussed or used.
If it is, then post it up on here.
  • #293
  • Sep 5, 2020 7:38am Sep 5, 2020 7:38am
Quoting nubcake
{quote} Yes, yes. Take the high road. So impressive.
NO

what's impressive is my Holy Grail that nobody thought about :
buy low, sell high.
imagine making 100000 trades a day that way !! it can bring so much!!
I think i'm the first human being to ever think of that strategy !!
must be some kind of genius

  • #294
  • Sep 5, 2020 7:46am Sep 5, 2020 7:46am
Not quite the same:

Quoting STrading
{quote} You open a position lets say buy 1 lot, you close the position the brokers sells 1 lot for you.
You are not a market participant any more.

Quoting STrading
{quote} You open a position lets say buy 1 lot, you hedge the position, sell 1 lot.
You are still a market participant. There is a possibility that you close both trades in net profit.
No guts, no glory
  • #295
  • Sep 5, 2020 8:02am Sep 5, 2020 8:02am
There are situations in which hedging could be useful, here is a few:

1. Price does not move in a straight line.

Suppose your bias is Long following the daily trend.

You can short at H1 resistance, cover and add to your long position at H1 support.


2. Your trading system generates Buy and Sell signals.

The normal method is to exit the previous trades and follow the new signal.

Another method, could be to Not close the previous trade, and keep taking trades in both directions, and finally close at a net profit target.


3. Hedging can also be used to manage the margin requirements during uncertainty periods.
No guts, no glory
  • #296
  • Sep 5, 2020 8:12am Sep 5, 2020 8:12am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} To quote you, who gives a shit. You are absolutely right. Can’t argue with you. Glad that’s sorted. Now are you going to move on and let people chat about whatever they want, or is it your mission to disrupt and see the thread removed to the recycle bin like all the other threads the brokers are not keen on. Who the fuck gives you the right to impose your will onto other members of the forum. Nothing within Forex Factory rules suggest that hedging cannot be discussed or used. If it is, then post it up on here.
Still no anwser wich is an awnser, your ego doesnt allow you to tell me that i am correct and your brain can not provide an awnser to tell me how i am wrong, that is your problem. Definitely cant argue with you, you cant say you are correct or you are wrong.
Nothing within Forex Factory rules suggest that i cant be against hedging nor it suggest that i cant share my opinion regarding hedging even if you dont like it.
Its the problem with idiots like you in this world, you are allowed to share your opinion as long if its the same opinion of mine, if you have a different opinion then you dont have the right to share your opinion right?
Well its your problem, i will share my opinion whether you like it or not.
And just to show your stupidity, i made you a question, and was hoping that you gave an answer.I did not tell you or anybody else to not discuss hedging and i didnt tell no one to not hedge. I actually made you a question regarding hedging wich make me here discusing hedging.
And to finish, and who the fuck gives you the right to impose you will into other members of the forum, telling them what they can or what they cannot discuss, telling them what they should or should not think, telling them what heir opinion should or should not be.
  • #297
  • Sep 5, 2020 8:13am Sep 5, 2020 8:13am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} To quote you, who gives a shit. You are absolutely right. Can’t argue with you. Glad that’s sorted. Now are you going to move on and let people chat about whatever they want, or is it your mission to disrupt and see the thread removed to the recycle bin like all the other threads the brokers are not keen on. Who the fuck gives you the right to impose your will onto other members of the forum. Nothing within Forex Factory rules suggest that hedging cannot be discussed or used. If it is, then post it up on here.
And please stop disrupting the thread with your stupid shit!!!!!!
THANK YOU
  • #298
  • Sep 5, 2020 8:16am Sep 5, 2020 8:16am
Quoting abokwaik
Not quite the same: {quote} You are not a market participant any more. {quote} You are still a market participant. There is a possibility that you close both trades in net profit.
On the second example your equity is locked, you are only a market participant once you release the hedge.
  • #299
  • Sep 5, 2020 8:25am Sep 5, 2020 8:25am
Quoting STrading
{quote} And please stop disrupting the thread with your stupid shit!!!!!! THANK YOU
Recycle bin.
Lets take a bet. How long.
  • #300
  • Sep 5, 2020 8:27am Sep 5, 2020 8:27am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} Recycle bin. Lets take a bet. How long.
"Now are you going to move on and let people chat about whatever they want" ???????????????????
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