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  • First Post: Aug 14, 2020 1:11am Aug 14, 2020 1:11am
  •  pa18
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 471 Posts
Let's say your target is 10 pips, as a scalper. Your normal risk per trade is 2%. Don't worry about the RR, scalpers normally aren't but say 10 pip emergency stop.

For hedging, you spilt the risk, 1% risk buy, 1% risk sell. You place a perfect hedge, once you open a buy position, a sell position is also opened. It goes up 5, close sell position, let it ride to target.

Obviously, lower profits but the point is that it's safer IF the market conditions such as slippage and spread are perfect.

Anyone tried?

Sounds fun but messy.
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  • Aug 15, 2020 5:36am Aug 15, 2020 5:36am
  •  furburger
  • | Joined Jul 2020 | Status: Member | 61 Posts
yes you close the hedge thats in profit to trade your way out of a loss.
 
 
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  •  Redworker
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Any approach with high dynamics looks a bit complicated and not ordered, but this feeling passes when you start to act in this direction yourself. Because you make your own decisions when you should "catch up" with the market, and in which cases it is better to limit yourself to a more calm approach. I do not think that there is anything critical about it, you should try it first, and then draw conclusions. Because, as you know, a lot depends on the specific market situation, the timeframes chosen, etc. Sometimes it can be dangerous, and sometimes it opens absolutely new perspectives. So, you can talk about it for a long time. I would start with a demo - I would look at what and how it works, and then try it in real practice.
 
 
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  •  nubcake
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Nobody has ever thought of this. Never, ever.

This is some big brain thinking right here. You should keep these trading secrets to yourself before the Forex Masons get angry.

Enjoy your million next week.
 
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  •  Rennaissance
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Nobody has ever thought of this. Never, ever. This is some big brain thinking right here. You should keep these trading secrets to yourself before the Forex Masons get angry. Enjoy your million next week.
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Is this what you call a genius idea?! How long have you been trading again?
When you see it, BET big.
 
 
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  •  nubcake
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{quote} Is this what you call a genius idea?! How long have you been trading again?
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It's very genius. The most genius, if I may say. The amount of unadulterated brainpower that must have gone into conceiving this idea puts god's creation of existence into shame... and that's coming from an Atheist.

I am in awe, as you must surely be.
 
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  •  Rennaissance
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{quote} It's very genius. The most genius, if I may say. The amount of unadulterated brainpower that must have gone into conceiving this idea puts god's creation of existence into shame... and that's coming from an Atheist. I am in awe, as you must surely be.
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I m sure you are the same person who created this thread. If you want adulation, come up with a better idea. You are not a genius! If I may break your illusions.
When you see it, BET big.
 
 
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  •  nubcake
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{quote} I m sure you are the same person who created this thread. If you want adulation, come up with a better idea. You are not a genius! If I may break your illusions.
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You've cracked the code. You are almost ready to complete a dot-to-dot, and maybe some paint by numbers.

I've never seen so many big brains in one thread. Stupendous.
 
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  • Aug 21, 2020 10:26pm Aug 21, 2020 10:26pm
  •  pa18
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{quote} You've cracked the code. You are almost ready to complete a dot-to-dot, and maybe some paint by numbers. I've never seen so many big brains in one thread. Stupendous.
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Wow. Has FF become a site for dicks?

What was the point of you replying??

Really, if you're not helpful, both of ya, what's the point, huh?
 
 
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  •  hao
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You can learn more about: win rate vs risk reward
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  •  nubcake
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{quote} Wow. Has FF become a site for dicks? What was the point of you replying?? Really, if you're not helpful, both of ya, what's the point, huh?
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The point is to match the level of retardation shown in the thread. I'd like my gold star now, thanks. FF has not "become" anything - you just aren't familiar with your surroundings.

If you feel this thread is worthy of anything other than derision then I feel sadness for you. Sadness so deep I can feel it turtling when I go to the bathroom.

You have such a long way to go. And that's 100% straight talk for you, and probably the most valuable thing anyone here will say to you.
 
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  •  rover99x
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Let's say your target is 10 pips, as a scalper. Your normal risk per trade is 2%. Don't worry about the RR, scalpers normally aren't but say 10 pip emergency stop. For hedging, you spilt the risk, 1% risk buy, 1% risk sell. You place a perfect hedge, once you open a buy position, a sell position is also opened. It goes up 5, close sell position, let it ride to target. Obviously, lower profits but the point is that it's safer IF the market conditions such as slippage and spread are perfect. Anyone tried? Sounds fun but messy.
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The only problem with hedging is the extra trading expenses, two lots of spread and/or commissions. Be aware this adds up over time and really eats into your profits, I used to use it a lot until I realised that!
 
 
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  •  lordbenj
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{quote} The point is to match the level of retardation shown in the thread. I'd like my gold star now, thanks. FF has not "become" anything - you just aren't familiar with your surroundings. If you feel this thread is worthy of anything other than derision then I feel sadness for you. Sadness so deep I can feel it turtling when I go to the bathroom. You have such a long way to go. And that's 100% straight talk for you, and probably the most valuable thing anyone here will say to you.
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The thread starter reeks of lack of knowledge but your replies reek of idiocy and primitive responses. There was something to learn from the main topic but you could explain what there was to learn from your reply oh smart one.
 
 
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  •  nubcake
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oh smart one.
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Second smartest thing said in this thread.
 
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  • Aug 22, 2020 6:56am Aug 22, 2020 6:56am
  •  pa18
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{quote} The point is to match the level of retardation shown in the thread. I'd like my gold star now, thanks. FF has not "become" anything - you just aren't familiar with your surroundings. If you feel this thread is worthy of anything other than derision then I feel sadness for you. Sadness so deep I can feel it turtling when I go to the bathroom. You have such a long way to go. And that's 100% straight talk for you, and probably the most valuable thing anyone here will say to you.
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Oh look, another dick.

So weird. It's like this website isn't for learning. Mmmm.

Simple questions get ridiculed instead of being productive.

Genius.

Might as well pack it in boys, preaching from a high horse works in the long run.
 
 
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  • Aug 22, 2020 6:58am Aug 22, 2020 6:58am
  •  nubcake
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{quote}It's like this website isn't for learning.
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See? You've already begun to grow from our interaction. It's taken you over 11 years of being here to realize it, then within a few posts from me and your enlightenment has begun.

Today is a good day for you. You are welcome.
 
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  •  moodybot
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{quote} The only problem with hedging is the extra trading expenses, two lots of spread and/or commissions. Be aware this adds up over time and really eats into your profits, I used to use it a lot until I realised that!
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I don’t use it but Close by gets around paying the commission. Some brokers disable the option. Look up Hedge Trade Panel by Nicholishen, reasonable explanation.
 
 
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  • Aug 22, 2020 7:27am Aug 22, 2020 7:27am
  •  pa18
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{quote} See? You've already begun to grow from our interaction. It's taken you over 11 years of being here to realize it, then within a few posts from me and your enlightenment has begun. Today is a good day for you. You are welcome.
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I dont think successful people talk like that. Do you trade for a living or fantasize about trading nub?
 
 
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  • Aug 22, 2020 7:52am Aug 22, 2020 7:52am
  •  nubcake
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{quote} I dont think successful people talk like that. Do you trade for a living or fantasize about trading nub?
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Is this the part where I give you my bank login?

Wait... I don't actually care what you think of my expertise here. That you can't tell one way or another reveals more about you than it ever could about me.

It's almost like you have no clue what you are doing. ShockedPikachu.jpg.exe
 
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  • Aug 22, 2020 9:17am Aug 22, 2020 9:17am
  •  pa18
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 471 Posts
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{quote} Is this the part where I give you my bank login? Wait... I don't actually care what you think of my expertise here. That you can't tell one way or another reveals more about you than it ever could about me. It's almost like you have no clue what you are doing. ShockedPikachu.jpg.exe
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So you don't trade then? You just talk it?
 
 
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