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  • #41
  • Aug 24, 2020 7:25am Aug 24, 2020 7:25am
Quoting pa18
{quote} So... you know or don't know? My original question was I didn't know. That's why I started this thread. Because I DIDN'T KNOW.
When you take the time to figure-out why what you call "hedging" is not actually hedging you'll begin to start unpacking the layers of stupid this idea represents. And I mean that sincerely... it's fucking stupid, basic, and quite insulting that you made a thread with such a poorly formed shit idea.

I actually can't be bothered explaining it to you, because the topic has been done to death on this and every other forum a thousand times over. This is some dumb fuck quasi straddle breakout strategy based on nothing else, but packaged in the asinine "hedging" garbage.

And I have a few minutes to burn over the weekend to poke fun at the stupidest shit, so here I am. You could try figuring-out why I'm taking a fibrous shit on your "idea", and I've already pointed you in the right direction. But, I doubt you will catch-on. You don't strike me as the type who is actually going to have educated and worthwhile thoughts.

You do you. Prove me wrong, or not. But don't come here posturing that you have some creative/interesting new idea, and then bring THIS nonsense. SMH.

Your account here is from loooong ago. You should fucking know better by now. Seriously.

And as for the small chorus of other slow thinkers, don't take their special school level of approval as anything more than a testament to just how wrong a turn you have taken. Goooood luck.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #42
  • Edited 11:40am Aug 24, 2020 11:18am | Edited 11:40am
Quoting pa18
{quote} So... you know or don't know? My original question was I didn't know. That's why I started this thread. Because I DIDN'T KNOW.
He clearly does now. Based on his experience. And consider It as a fixed truth! But there are hundreds of ways.

I mean... Imagine you would like to run 5 different strategies at the same time at the same graph. Wouldn't you need a hedging account?
It's not what I'm into right now, but there's an algo futures trading champion called Kevin Davey. He does hedge. And runs more than one strategy at the same graph.
  • #43
  • Aug 24, 2020 11:46am Aug 24, 2020 11:46am
Quoting pa18
{quote} So... you know or don't know? My original question was I didn't know. That's why I started this thread. Because I DIDN'T KNOW.
If you see some interesting results, keep doing what you are doing. Most ppl who have commented here see the world through their blinders that they are accustomed to and they are telling you to see your world the same way. Read their comments as: I couldn't do it, so neither should you. If you listen to them, you will end up with the same fate. Good luck.
  • #44
  • Aug 24, 2020 10:00pm Aug 24, 2020 10:00pm
Quoting nubcake
{quote} When you take the time to figure-out why what you call "hedging" is not actually hedging you'll begin to start unpacking the layers of stupid this idea represents. And I mean that sincerely... it's fucking stupid, basic, and quite insulting that you made a thread with such a poorly formed shit idea. I actually can't be bothered explaining it to you, because the topic has been done to death on this and every other forum a thousand times over. This is some dumb fuck quasi straddle breakout strategy based on nothing else, but packaged in the...
Weird, I asked a simple question, not a life history of your ego.

Sounds insecure to me!

Let's start again, can you hedge when scalping. Don't give other people's methods or opinions, I want your thoughts.
  • #45
  • Aug 25, 2020 1:46am Aug 25, 2020 1:46am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} I don’t use it but Close by gets around paying the commission. Some brokers disable the option. Look up Hedge Trade Panel by Nicholishen, reasonable explanation.
I've not come accross a commission disablement for hedging, usually when there's commission the spread narrows and conversely when there's no commission charged the spread is wide. Quite often you'll get the margin contraed by some good brokers, I think ICM used to
But I'll bow to your better knowledge.........
  • #46
  • Aug 25, 2020 2:22am Aug 25, 2020 2:22am
Quoting rover99x
{quote} I've not come accross a commission disablement for hedging, usually when there's commission the spread narrows and conversely when there's no commission charged the spread is wide. Quite often you'll get the margin contraed by some good brokers, I think ICM used to But I'll bow to your better knowledge.........
I wouldn't say it was better knowledge but I'm sure this thread may raise some dust....

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...ge-trade-panel

Might be of interest..
  • #47
  • Aug 25, 2020 5:17am Aug 25, 2020 5:17am
Quoting pa18
{quote} Weird, I asked a simple question, not a life history of your ego. Sounds insecure to me! Let's start again, can you hedge when scalping. Don't give other people's methods or opinions, I want your thoughts.
What you are doing isn't hedging. So it's a pointless question, thread... existence.

And that's the problem here. You are so far behind the ball that a meaningful conversation with people like you is not possible. Your terminology, "understanding", "knowledge", etc, is all so fucked-up it's like talking to pet rock.

This thread is toast.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #48
  • Aug 25, 2020 7:31am Aug 25, 2020 7:31am
Quoting nubcake
{quote} What you are doing isn't hedging. So it's a pointless question, thread... existence. And that's the problem here. You are so far behind the ball that a meaningful conversation with people like you is not possible. Your terminology, "understanding", "knowledge", etc, is all so fucked-up it's like talking to pet rock. This thread is toast.
Let's say it was pointless.

Not to me, because I didn't know, right? Why else would I ask?

Is this a shopping website or a trading website, nub?

Then you came in charging like a clown like you are, a bull in a china shop strutting your ego around as if you own this place.

Seriously, the way you try and defend yourself, the way you ham fist yourself in without being productive, makes me question if you actually trade at all. A child can do better.
  • #49
  • Aug 25, 2020 8:02am Aug 25, 2020 8:02am
Quoting pa18
{quote} Let's say it was pointless. Not to me, because I didn't know, right? Why else would I ask? Is this a shopping website or a trading website, nub? Then you came in charging like a clown like you are, a bull in a china shop strutting your ego around as if you own this place. Seriously, the way you try and defend yourself, the way you ham fist yourself in without being productive, makes me question if you actually trade at all. A child can do better.


All sounds like a "you" problem... because it is.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #50
  • Aug 25, 2020 10:23pm Aug 25, 2020 10:23pm
Quoting nubcake
{quote} All sounds like a "you" problem... because it is.
Nothing else to say huh Nub?

You had loads to say before, why is that?

Didn't take your medication for being a dick?
  • #51
  • Aug 25, 2020 11:02pm Aug 25, 2020 11:02pm
Quoting pa18
Let's say your target is 10 pips, as a scalper. Your normal risk per trade is 2%. Don't worry about the RR, scalpers normally aren't but say 10 pip emergency stop. For hedging, you spilt the risk, 1% risk buy, 1% risk sell. You place a perfect hedge, once you open a buy position, a sell position is also opened. It goes up 5, close sell position, let it ride to target. Obviously, lower profits but the point is that it's safer IF the market conditions such as slippage and spread are perfect. Anyone tried? Sounds fun but messy.
Nice idea, but I can imagine situations when price triggers stop loss of one trade then make a reversal and goes against the second trade. Remember that spreads and commissions basically double so drawback may be unobvious in 1-2 trades but become visible in 100 trades.
  • #52
  • Aug 26, 2020 2:20am Aug 26, 2020 2:20am
Quoting pa18
Let's say your target is 10 pips, as a scalper. Your normal risk per trade is 2%. Don't worry about the RR, scalpers normally aren't but say 10 pip emergency stop. For hedging, you spilt the risk, 1% risk buy, 1% risk sell. You place a perfect hedge, once you open a buy position, a sell position is also opened. It goes up 5, close sell position, let it ride to target. Obviously, lower profits but the point is that it's safer IF the market conditions such as slippage and spread are perfect. Anyone tried? Sounds fun but messy.
That's not hedging, Using your example you'll be better off doing this:

wait 4 the market to go up 5 pips, buy stop order is set there, ok you are now Long, "let it ride to target" as you say.
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  • #53
  • Aug 26, 2020 7:11am Aug 26, 2020 7:11am
Quoting pa18
{quote} Nothing else to say huh Nub? You had loads to say before, why is that? Didn't take your medication for being a dick?
Exactly. Very smart. You will go far in life with such creative brilliance you have displayed in this thread. We are in awe.

3 pages in and you still haven't accepted that you are dumb as dirt and this idea is... nothing.

I might keep replying to you for a little while longer. We'll see.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #54
  • Aug 26, 2020 7:35am Aug 26, 2020 7:35am
Quoting nubcake
{quote} Exactly. Very smart. You will go far in life with such creative brilliance you have displayed in this thread. We are in awe. 3 pages in and you still haven't accepted that you are dumb as dirt and this idea is... nothing. I might keep replying to you for a little while longer. We'll see.
I'd like to jump in here with an apology to nubcake -- and this post is completely off the idiotic topic of this thread -- who I once thought was a complete ass wipe. I used to hate your posts and your attitude. No longer! I was recently put on ignore by a thread starter for pointing out that he is an idiot. My first ignore, I believe. And I am laughing and agreeing with your posts here. Well done. So I apologize for my past critiques of your past posts, when you were pointing out idiotic and dumb shit posts, comments, and ideas. Fucking idiots...
  • #55
  • Aug 26, 2020 8:40am Aug 26, 2020 8:40am
Quoting GEfx
{quote} I'd like to jump in here with an apology to nubcake -- and this post is completely off the idiotic topic of this thread -- who I once thought was a complete ass wipe. I used to hate your posts and your attitude. No longer! I was recently put on ignore by a thread starter for pointing out that he is an idiot. My first ignore, I believe. And I am laughing and agreeing with your posts here. Well done. So I apologize for my past critiques of your past posts, when you were pointing out idiotic and dumb shit posts, comments, and ideas. Fucking...
Don't play with my heart, Mister. I'm not smart enough to know if you are code-signalling OP, or if I need to put on some chapstick.

I'm fragile right now, alright. Be gentle!
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #56
  • Aug 26, 2020 8:46am Aug 26, 2020 8:46am
Quoting nubcake
{quote} Don't play with my heart, Mister. I'm not smart enough to know if you are code-signalling OP, or if I need to put on some chapstick. I'm fragile right now, alright. Be gentle!
LOL...I'm not sure how Tinder works but I'm willing to learn.
  • #57
  • Aug 26, 2020 8:58am Aug 26, 2020 8:58am
Quoting GEfx
{quote} LOL...I'm not sure how Tinder works but I'm willing to learn.
Aww yessss.


Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #58
  • Aug 26, 2020 9:06am Aug 26, 2020 9:06am
Quoting nubcake
{quote} Don't play with my heart, Mister. I'm not smart enough to know if you are code-signalling OP, or if I need to put on some chapstick. I'm fragile right now, alright. Be gentle!
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  • #59
  • Aug 26, 2020 9:07am Aug 26, 2020 9:07am
Quoting Botan626
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Masta not Mista...
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  • #60
  • Aug 26, 2020 9:48am Aug 26, 2020 9:48am
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} Masta not Mista...
JFC. I was steering this car onto the dirt. No need to aim for the lamp post!
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
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