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  • #8,641
  • Jul 20, 2020 9:27am Jul 20, 2020 9:27am
Quoting DavidKl
Hi Guys, I hope you are all good and that FX is treating you well I got a quick question. Obviously as I am still learning I went through some older youtube videos this weekend (AKT older videos, Moneyball Austin videos, he was trained by AKT too and Alfonso Moreno videos). What I noticed and correct me if I'm wrong, if they are trading intraday/daily income trades, they only trade from either D1 Curve zones or H4 Curve zones. There was never a trade or very very rare when they took a trade where the price was i.e. at 30% away from...
Hey,

as far as i Know, you have descriped a momentum + location vs momentum situation. Its all about odds. And H1 Zones nested in 4H is momentum + location. Only H1 Zones is momentum.

momentum + location has higher odds than only momentum.
  • #8,642
  • Jul 20, 2020 9:43am Jul 20, 2020 9:43am
Quoting philsor
{quote} Hey, as far as i Know, you have descriped a momentum + location vs momentum situation. Its all about odds. And H1 Zones nested in 4H is momentum + location. Only H1 Zones is momentum. momentum + location has higher odds than only momentum.
So looking at that H1 momentum trade is it better to wait for the confirmation before taking the trade? I have to admit sometimes I do both and it doesn't work out every time.
  • #8,643
  • Jul 20, 2020 12:02pm Jul 20, 2020 12:02pm
Quoting philsor
{quote} Hey, as far as i Know, you have descriped a momentum + location vs momentum situation. Its all about odds. And H1 Zones nested in 4H is momentum + location. Only H1 Zones is momentum. momentum + location has higher odds than only momentum.
Hi Philsor, so basically, they are only trading that kind of a setup momentum and location as it's a highest odd trade correct? Thanks

David.
  • #8,644
  • Jul 23, 2020 10:16pm Jul 23, 2020 10:16pm
Quoting Diddyy
{quote} Hello Yfxtrading, truly not all VALID supply and demand zones will work, not because your analysis was wrong but, simply because of a change in market dynamics. Below is my analysis of GBPAUD.{image} Hope this helps you to understand why you shouldn't have bought at that point. Cheers.
hi buddy could you help me with that indicator that helps to draw supply and demand on your charts? much appreciation
  • #8,645
  • Jul 23, 2020 10:20pm Jul 23, 2020 10:20pm
Quoting Techanalyst
EURUSD possible pullback down, than more bullish move. {image}
hi bro could you please help out with the supply and demand indicator on your charts? thanks
  • #8,646
  • Jul 31, 2020 1:36am Jul 31, 2020 1:36am
Good day Traders,
I am quite new to this thread, and this methodology interests me alot! I have gone to some old post on this thread, watch some videosb and some PDF of AKT, Alfonso Moreno on SanD. I really which to master this methodology but I need someone who could walk me through. Someone who will help me review my analysis. It seems this thread is not as active as before and I don't see more or any AKT's posts again
  • #8,647
  • Aug 2, 2020 2:41pm Aug 2, 2020 2:41pm
Hi everyone,
This is my maiden post - so would love feedback.

GBPUSD is currently setting up for a short trade in H1 timeframe.
The price is currently sitting in a virgin D1 and W1 supply zone. In H1 and it has just taken out an opposing H1 demand zone.

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Please do share if you take this trade. Thanks!
  • #8,648
  • Aug 5, 2020 2:30pm Aug 5, 2020 2:30pm
This trade is currently live
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  • #8,649
  • Edited 6:37am Aug 6, 2020 4:16am | Edited 6:37am
Quoting DavidKl
{quote} Hi Philsor, I hope that majority of the guys will agree with me on this one It's all about which setup has more probability of going in your favor. I was over complicating things a lot at the beginning when starting with the S&D Trading and I was trading with the trend and counter trend and because I was trading both setups I was getting confused. The way that I look at your example "if price is moving from supply to demand" it just tells me what is happening in the market. Below I put couple of scenarios which might help you. To...

Haven't seen some people in some time but youve got the point so maybe you don't have to wait for them.

I haven't been trading in some time due to covid and other reasons but don't really post often anyway.

For any new traders looking how to trade, go gook at Sam seiden on youtube/fxstreet. If you want to learn about supply/demand, he's the man. Also check out (pie) price is everythimg by redsword. I learnt from him how to trade over 7-8 years ago now.. redsword takes what Sam gives you to whole new level. He learnt from Sam seiden.


I bought physical silver Britannia's (I'm expecting 50 to break at some point so will keep adding on pull backs) at the low that we made but we could have some corrective move on silver right about now. This would be a counter trend set up so keep your stop loss tight.
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Also aud/usd with a buy set up. 0.7166. 0.7125 is fresh demand. Expecting dollar bear to come back in
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Not sure where these guys went. Enjoyed their posts.
Till another day

Joe
Indicators only Indicate, Price action dictates.
  • #8,650
  • Aug 6, 2020 4:32am Aug 6, 2020 4:32am
Quoting joe123
{quote} Haven't seen some people in some time but youve got the point so maybe you don't have to wait for them. I haven't been trading in some time due to covid and other reasons but don't really post often anyway. For any new traders looking how to trade, go gook at Sam seiden on youtube/fxstreet. If you want to learn about supply/demand, he's the man. Also check out (pie) price is everythimg by redsword. I learnt from him how to trade over 7-8 years ago now.. redsword takes what Sam gives you to whole new level. He learnt from Sam seiden....
Hi Joe123

Thanks for the recommendation on the redsword, I will have a look at him. I'm gonna start posting again here now, was just busy trading and I didn't see any topics that required an answer really. I want to share of what I learned on here and by myself, but I need somebody asking questions. I don't trade silver, but I will have a look at the chart now.

Thanks
  • #8,651
  • Aug 6, 2020 4:33am Aug 6, 2020 4:33am
Quoting DavidKl
{quote} Hi Joe123 Thanks for the recommendation on the redsword, I will have a look at him. I'm gonna start posting again here now, was just busy trading and I didn't see any topics that required an answer really. I want to share of what I learned on here and by myself, but I need somebody asking questions. I don't trade silver, but I will have a look at the chart now. Thanks
I'm just curious where AKT same dendem have gone?
  • #8,652
  • Aug 6, 2020 10:29am Aug 6, 2020 10:29am
Quoting joe123
Expecting dollar bear to come back in
Looking at usd, I see we are at a demand zone. Still dollar bearish on longer time frame charts. So need to take that into considiration. Waiting for this thing to break north. Tomorrow non farm payroll should give it a kick in the a#%

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Expecting a little something like this once we break north
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Indicators only Indicate, Price action dictates.
  • #8,653
  • Aug 6, 2020 10:51am Aug 6, 2020 10:51am
Quoting DavidKl
{quote} Hi Joe123 Thanks for the recommendation on the redsword, I will have a look at him. I'm gonna start posting again here now, was just busy trading and I didn't see any topics that required an answer really. I want to share of what I learned on here and by myself, but I need somebody asking questions. I don't trade silver, but I will have a look at the chart now. Thanks
Thanks DavidKI for your willingness to share your knowledge. I am new to this methodology and will be posting my analysis base o the information I have gotten on this thread so far.
Will be glad to get reviews/corrections from you and other traders.

Regards,
Nnaemeka Paschal
  • #8,654
  • Aug 6, 2020 6:35pm Aug 6, 2020 6:35pm
Quoting Paschalsam
{quote} Thanks DavidKI for your willingness to share your knowledge. I am new to this methodology and will be posting my analysis base o the information I have gotten on this thread so far. Will be glad to get reviews/corrections from you and other traders. Regards, Nnaemeka Paschal

Hey Nnaemeka, are you from Nigeria?
  • #8,655
  • Aug 6, 2020 6:43pm Aug 6, 2020 6:43pm
Quoting makuchaku
This trade is currently live {image}
Good Job Makuchaku, I hope it played out in your favor

D.B
  • #8,656
  • Aug 8, 2020 5:13pm Aug 8, 2020 5:13pm
Quoting D.B
{quote} Good Job Makuchaku, I hope it played out in your favor D.B
Thank you!
Apart from going like a few pips above my stop loss, the trade hit a 3x Risk:Reward profit
I guess, I need better stop loss placement (not the obvious spots)
  • #8,657
  • Edited 5:23am Aug 9, 2020 3:37am | Edited 5:23am
Quoting Akt
Hello everyone Update on GBPNZD with some "zones for thought" Best wishes{image}{image}
Hello Traders,
I have a question in regard to an old AKT post.
Is it a supply zone(W -SZ)?
I think it is (if the basing zone on the left considered as demand) that took out by supply. I attach the picture.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. What is your thoughts on this?
Thanks
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  • #8,658
  • Aug 9, 2020 9:47am Aug 9, 2020 9:47am
Quoting Royal146
{quote} Hello Traders, I have a question in regard to an old AKT post. Is it a supply zone(W -SZ)? I think it is (if the basing zone on the left considered as demand) that took out by supply. I attach the picture. Please correct me if I'm wrong. What is your thoughts on this? Thanks {image}
Hi Mate, It really depends on what do you want to do. Do you want to trade with the trend or do you want to catch the bottom (risky). In this scenario what is your curve timeframe? Where is the price compared to your curve supply or demand. Looking at the picture from a point of view, is it a supply or demand, I wouldn't classify this as a true supply zone, I'd use the zone in question to see what's gonna happen there. Let's say, that this supply zone was created (or sell zone not sure if it was 2:1) near the curve Demand zone, I'd first wait to see if this zone is going to hold in the first place. If the supply zone gets absorbed and we reacted from the Higher Time Frame demand then I'd use this as a WOW setup (confirmation trade) to go long.

Personally I wouldn't class this as a true supply, Yes they were some sellers in there but not a great amount. The demand to the left was a messy one as well, it's more a CP pattern and CP patterns don't hold so much weight after the trend already changed.

Thanks

David
  • #8,659
  • Aug 9, 2020 10:57am Aug 9, 2020 10:57am
Quoting DavidKl
{quote} The demand to the left was a messy one as well, it's more a CP pattern and CP patterns don't hold so much weight after the trend already changed. Thanks David
Thank you DavidKl
What demand level are you referring to? The dashed CP under the selling or the circled line that I've drawn? I know CP's are low odds after the TL break. But if the CP zone ( red circled line) is demand it's broken, so the zone that caused the break is supply. Right?
  • #8,660
  • Aug 9, 2020 11:27am Aug 9, 2020 11:27am
Quoting Royal146
{quote} Thank you DavidKl What demand level are you referring to? The dashed CP under the selling or the circled line that I've drawn? I know CP's are low odds after the TL break. But if the CP zone ( red circled line) is demand it's broken, so the zone that caused the break is supply. Right?
It can be, but you also need to score the level, where is it on the curve? low high or mid, did it move 2:1, move away, trend direction etc. After all that you can make decisions on what to do next.

Thank you

David
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