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  • #4,021
  • Jul 1, 2020 7:04am Jul 1, 2020 7:04am
Quoting vitall
{quote} It looks like GBPCHF & GBPUSD are correlating.
They certainly are.
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  • #4,022
  • Jul 1, 2020 7:06am Jul 1, 2020 7:06am
h1 hidden div for coffee commodity (if anyone trades it)
may be break up occuring...
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  • #4,023
  • Jul 1, 2020 12:46pm Jul 1, 2020 12:46pm
Quoting kuroro001
h1 hidden div for coffee commodity (if anyone trades it) may be break up occuring...
broke up, 300 pips move so far
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  • #4,024
  • Jul 2, 2020 4:02am Jul 2, 2020 4:02am
Hi @all

I'm not able to see/understand when the Trading Zone ends...could someone clarify this part?

Thanks!
  • #4,025
  • Jul 2, 2020 4:34am Jul 2, 2020 4:34am
GU unfolding slightly HD on H4 and RD on wedge on H1. Please check and correct the set up if i'm wrong.

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  • #4,026
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:11am Jul 2, 2020 6:11am
Quoting Okydok
Hi @all I'm not able to see/understand when the Trading Zone ends...could someone clarify this part? Thanks!
Hi Okydok,

The Trading Zone is part of a method I am suggesting for trading Hidden Divergence patterns. You can use it or not, it's your choice. I am using 3 different timeframes. The first one is where a HD pattern is spotted. I then switch to the intermediate timeframe (the next lower timeframe) and wait for MACD to cross the zero line. When it does, I can enter the trade. The cross is also the start of the Trading Zone. If I use it, I then switch to a timeframe around 10 times smaller and take all entries when MACD crosses the zero line in the direction of the signal in the intermediate timeframe. The Trading Zone ends when MACD crosses back the zero line in the intermediate timeframe.
  • #4,027
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:14am Jul 2, 2020 6:14am
Check this out:
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  • #4,028
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:19am Jul 2, 2020 6:19am
Quoting chamane
{quote} Hi Okydok, The Trading Zone is part of a method I am suggesting for trading Hidden Divergence patterns. You can use it or not, it's your choice. I am using 3 different timeframes. The first one is where a HD pattern is spotted. I then switch to the intermediate timeframe (the next lower timeframe) and wait for MACD to cross the zero line. When it does, I can enter the trade. The cross is also the start of the Trading Zone. If I use it, I then switch to a timeframe around 10 times smaller and take all entries when MACD crosses the zero line...

Thanks, I was missing the middle timeframe macd crossing back. It is clear now
  • #4,029
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:20am Jul 2, 2020 6:20am
Quoting Okydok
GU unfolding slightly HD on H4 and RD on wedge on H1. Please check and correct the set up if i'm wrong. {image}
It's HD on H4 and RD on H1:
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  • #4,030
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:25am Jul 2, 2020 6:25am
USDCAD:
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  • #4,031
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:34am Jul 2, 2020 6:34am
Quoting Okydok
GU unfolding slightly HD on H4 and RD on wedge on H1. Please check and correct the set up if i'm wrong. {image}
Okydok,

There is a HD pattern on the 4HR chart and a regular divergence pattern on the 1 HR. However, there are many candles between the peaks on the 4 HR TF, too many to my liking. I don't like when there is some noise between peaks. I prefer looking at the Daily TF as the main chart where the HD pattern is also spotted and take entry signals on the 4HR TF. There is a strong move upward though.
  • #4,032
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:36am Jul 2, 2020 6:36am
According chamane's way we are in TZ (H1) and have a signal to sell on M5 (it depends on MACD setting):
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  • #4,033
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:45am Jul 2, 2020 6:45am
Quoting vitall
According chamane's way we are in TZ (H1) and have a signal to sell on M5 (it depends on MACD setting): {image}
Vitall,

There is a bearish HD pattern on the 4HR chart, but the Trading Zone on the 1 HR chart starts with a bullish candle. This is a case where I would wait before declaring the Zone active.
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  • #4,034
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:46am Jul 2, 2020 6:46am
Quoting vitall
According chamane's way we are in TZ (H1) and have a signal to sell on M5 (it depends on MACD setting): {image}
But at same time we have big mess on H1+ news for USD are coming=?
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  • #4,035
  • Jul 2, 2020 6:49am Jul 2, 2020 6:49am
h4 bullish hiden div natural gas
Lets see if a break up occurs here
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  • #4,036
  • Jul 2, 2020 7:41am Jul 2, 2020 7:41am
Quoting chamane
{quote} Okydok, There is a HD pattern on the 4HR chart and a regular divergence pattern on the 1 HR. However, there are many candles between the peaks on the 4 HR TF, too many to my liking. I don't like when there is some noise between peaks. I prefer looking at the Daily TF as the main chart where the HD pattern is also spotted and take entry signals on the 4HR TF. There is a strong move upward though.
Thanks for the explanation, will filter my setups with this nuance.
  • #4,037
  • Jul 2, 2020 9:42am Jul 2, 2020 9:42am
One aditional question if you dont mind...

I've noticed that once the middle time frame gives a new entry signal on same higher time frame HD there also are present entries on the Trading zone with nice results.

My question is, do you keep looking for trades on each signal of midle time frame or just once per HD?
  • #4,038
  • Jul 2, 2020 10:35am Jul 2, 2020 10:35am
Quoting Okydok
One aditional question if you dont mind... I've noticed that once the middle time frame gives a new entry signal on same higher time frame HD there also are present entries on the Trading zone with nice results. My question is, do you keep looking for trades on each signal of midle time frame or just once per HD?
I think that you can use this strategy till MACD on the first TF is showing Trading Zone.
  • #4,039
  • Jul 2, 2020 5:34pm Jul 2, 2020 5:34pm
Quoting Okydok
One aditional question if you dont mind... I've noticed that once the middle time frame gives a new entry signal on same higher time frame HD there also are present entries on the Trading zone with nice results. My question is, do you keep looking for trades on each signal of midle time frame or just once per HD?
Please post some charts so I can understand better your point. Thanks.
  • #4,040
  • Edited 9:53pm Jul 2, 2020 6:29pm | Edited 9:53pm
That is what I trying to ask @chamane

On D1 the HD still progressing and there are two entries in H4 and along with two Trading Zones on M15

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EDITED. I just noted that Trade Zone extremes are Macd Line crossing zero line, not the histogram switching colors.Forget this mistake on the screenshot, but the question remains the same
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