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  • #581
  • Jun 29, 2020 1:45pm Jun 29, 2020 1:45pm
Quoting erann
Hello everyone..Can anyone actually learn this?a newbie like me does even has a chance?
Hello! There is always a chance. Year to study, years 2 to practice and start with this topic
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...=874421&page=1
  • #582
  • Jun 29, 2020 2:55pm Jun 29, 2020 2:55pm
Quoting mik2012
hello to the whole family! I want to share my entry on April 30 and show the M1 chart where I came from .. 133.120 .. Does it look like anything? Maybe this is one of George's filters?)) {image} {image} {image}
Hello,how do you use george method to trade?I cannot understand the way he trade.
  • #583
  • Jun 29, 2020 4:03pm Jun 29, 2020 4:03pm
Greetings! Any of the three, maybe four people on this thread "in the know" willing to confirm whether or not these were proper entries? Sure the trades worked out nicely but if the entries were not correct it does not matter. I've been studying the theories presented in the two threads for a while now, studying charts until my eyes feel like they are bleeding, running charts through strategy tester to watch price action unfolding around certain target areas and studying the posts in George's thread over and over. While I can grab these kinds of trades fairly regularly, I'll often get caught by grinders only to have my profits ripped to shreds. Always two steps forward and one or two (or more) steps back. I'm still missing something and I wish I know what it was, or at least what I need to focus on so I can figure it out. And no, the entry decisions go much deeper than the price simply entering the TMA bands on the chart below. Would love to know if I am getting any closer. PM if fine too, actually preferred. Cheers!
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  • #584
  • Jun 29, 2020 5:03pm Jun 29, 2020 5:03pm
You guys know that movie Back to the future?
This thread is like Back to the past, where people show up everyday to predict last day price.
Predictions for tomorrow!!!!!
GU went up then down
  • #585
  • Jun 29, 2020 6:56pm Jun 29, 2020 6:56pm
Quoting erann
Hello everyone..Can anyone actually learn this?a newbie like me does even has a chance?
Hello there ,,,
Can you go to a hospital and perform an operation on a patient when you are in your first year of medicine study at a university ????

Why are you so hard on yourself ???

How long have you been involved in this trading game ????????????

My suggestion is ,,
Allow 5 years to GRADUATE properly in this game ,,,

Cheers
George
LOVE YOUR GAME WITH A PASSION ,,,,, WORK WITH A VISION ! ! ! ! !
  • #586
  • Jun 29, 2020 8:07pm Jun 29, 2020 8:07pm
Quoting George AUS
{quote} Hello there ,,, Can you go to a hospital and perform an operation on a patient when you are in your first year of medicine study at a university ???? Why are you so hard on yourself ??? How long have you been involved in this trading game ???????????? My suggestion is ,, Allow 5 years to GRADUATE properly in this game ,,, Cheers George
Thankyou George, (and thanks to Moodybot and contributors to this thread).
It gives me hope when you say 'allow 5 years', after 2 years, I'll be honest, I am not profitable (yet)....
I'm guessing for many, their journey is similar to mine; the first 2 years is reading everything you can get your hands on, watching every video you can watch, backtesting countless strategies, testing money management strategies, trying to figure out what works and what doesn't. Loading up indicators, taking them all off, testing EAs and then throwing them all out and test some more, back and forth... Trade the market get burned, back to the drawing board, reading, watching and then Trade again; get burned again, back to the drawing board.... vicious cycle.
It comes to a point now where one (me) recognizes that it is time to narrow it down, filter the noise- even unlearn in order to recognizing the (algorithmic) nature of the market and creating some simple edges around this along with money management, rules, focus, simplifying and above all:

  1. mastering oneself-


The money I lose in the markets, I do feel bad, but I consider it a tuition, the losses are lessons to take a closer look at why the trades were lost.

The irony is this: most of us generally know whats needed; however when sitting at the computer looking for trades, we (newer traders and maybe some old timers) tell ourselves, 'I should do this, get in here, get out there' which would work in many cases, but the 'demon' in us does the exact opposite of what we say....and we lose the trade.
We know its time to kick the 'demon' out; but this demon is so intertwined in our personalities, it is not an overnight task.
2 years down, 3 or hopefully less to go. Cheers and thanks to all. Mike

  • #587
  • Jun 29, 2020 8:23pm Jun 29, 2020 8:23pm
Might be of interest. Gold targets? Been 10 years this high.....
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  • #588
  • Edited Jun 30, 2020 1:17pm Jun 29, 2020 8:51pm | Edited Jun 30, 2020 1:17pm
Another view.... Does the algo know where these orders are? Moving from clusters to cluster? Often it is noticed that orders taken out to the PIP and reverse.... other times orders are blasted through to the next layer, taking out old and new orders.

FORGIVE THE TYPO in first photo,, it is HIGHS FROM 2012 and not 2010 :/

Added a new photo to show older orders absorbed... Where is price going next?
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  • #589
  • Jun 29, 2020 9:55pm Jun 29, 2020 9:55pm
Quoting deafpostman
Another view.... Does the algo know where these orders are? Moving from clusters to cluster? Often it is noticed that orders taken out to the PIP and reverse.... other times orders are blasted through to the next layer, taking out old and new orders. {image}
Interesting view, but how do you get those clusters with orders? Which is a completely different question, but out of curiosity. It looks like what Jamal works with.
  • #590
  • Edited 10:46pm Jun 29, 2020 10:05pm | Edited 10:46pm
Quoting GibbonsFx
Greetings! Any of the three, maybe four people on this thread "in the know" willing to confirm whether or not these were proper entries? Sure the trades worked out nicely but if the entries were not correct it does not matter. I've been studying the theories presented in the two threads for a while now, studying charts until my eyes feel like they are bleeding, running charts through strategy tester to watch price action unfolding around certain target areas and studying the posts in George's thread over and over. While I can grab these kinds of...
Hi Gibbons

That was a trade myself and Zoltan took last night and it was a easy low risk trade and a nice win. The TMA bands offer a signal of price expansion in relation to a ADR setting. That maybe your problem, The ADR Does no offer reliable signals from which we can trade from, we need to see exhaustion occurring outside of a grind or a hit on a target. I hunt moves that are inbalanced in relation to the grind shape or just a strong reaction at a major target.
The TMA is just a warning indicator to pay attention and look out for a target.

Cheers
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #591
  • Jun 29, 2020 10:43pm Jun 29, 2020 10:43pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi Gibbons That was a trade myself and Zoltan took last night and it was a easy low risk trade and a nice win. The TMA bands offer a signal that price has expanded in relation to a ADR setting. That maybe your problem, The ADR Does no offer reliable signals from which we can trade from, we need to see exhaustion occurring outside of a grind. A move that is inbalanced in relation to the grind shape. The TMA is just a warning indicator to pay attention and look out for a target. Cheers
Thanks for the reply. I believe you posted a few charts about this previously. I'll go back and study them a bit more in-depth.
  • #592
  • Jun 29, 2020 11:21pm Jun 29, 2020 11:21pm
Quoting deafpostman
{quote} Thankyou George, (and thanks to Moodybot and contributors to this thread). It gives me hope when you say 'allow 5 years', after 2 years, . Cheers and thanks to all. Mike
A very good day to u Mike ,,,
And to all who are interested in listening

Reality is NOT as bad as it seems and sounds ,,,,

I made a very clear and precise post on the project ,,, in which i said ,,
ONE SHOULD NOT TRADE A LIVE ACCOUNT ,, UNTIL ,,,
THEY MASTER THE GAME ON A DEMO ! ! !

WHY ???
THE CHARTS ARE AL THE SAME ,,,
DEMO OR LIVE ,,,,
IF ONE CAN NOT ESTABLISH AN FULL KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS AMAZING GAME ,,,
AND ,,,, BE CONSISTENTLY PROFITABLE ON A DEMO ACCOUNT FIRST ,,,,
THERE IS NO WAY IN THIS WORLD THEY WILL BE ON A LIVE ACCOUNT ! ! !

FORGET THE BULLSHIT ABOUT PSYCHOLOGY OF LIVE TRADING ( AT AN EARLY STAGE OF TRADING ) ,,,, ATLEAST UNTIL ,,,
ONE CAN MASTER THE GAME ON A DEMO ,,,,

THE PROCESS IS AS FOLLOWS ,,,
WE LARN THE GAME FIRST ,,,,
IT IS CALLED ,,, KNOWLEDGE ,,,,
THEN ,,
WE USE THAT KNOWLEDGE IN PRACTICAL TRADING APPLICATION ( ON A DEMO ACCOUNT ) ,,,,
THAT WILL GIVE US THE NEXT STEP CALLED ,, EXPERIENCE ,,,,
KNOWLEDGE IS NOT THE POWER ,,,
IT IS APPLICATION OF KNOWLEDGE THAT IS POWER ! ! !

WE WILL NOT ACHIEVE FULL SUCCESS WITHOUT BOTH OF THE ABOVE ,,,,
WE THEN PUT THAT KNOWLEDGE AND THE EXPERIENCE INTO ACTION PRACTICAL ACTION ( ON A DEMO ACCOUNT ALSO ) ,,,,
AND WITH ,,, "" TIIIIIIIIIIME """
WE WILL ACHIEVE THE ULTIMATE SUCCESS ! ! !

This is the process that need to applied to everything in life ,,,,

NOTHING HAPPENS OVERNIGHT ,,,
EVERYTHING HAPPENS OVER ,,,, """ TIME """ ! ! !

TIME IS THE ESSENCE OF EVERYTHING IN LIFE ! ! !

I hope this will lay out a PSYCHOLOGICAL ROAD MAP for yourself and others ,,,
This is based on my own HUMBLE OPINION ,,, and ,, PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ,,,
In both normal business life ,, and ,, my trading Journey ,,,

Cheers
George
LOVE YOUR GAME WITH A PASSION ,,,,, WORK WITH A VISION ! ! ! ! !
  • #593
  • Jun 29, 2020 11:31pm Jun 29, 2020 11:31pm
Quoting George AUS
{quote} Hello there ,,, Can you go to a hospital and perform an operation on a patient when you are in your first year of medicine study at a university ???? Why are you so hard on yourself ??? How long have you been involved in this trading game ???????????? My suggestion is ,, Allow 5 years to GRADUATE properly in this game ,,, Cheers George
Hello,I start learned trading since I was 16 years old back in 2014.6 Years passed and I still cant find a profitable method...I spent about minimum of 4 hours a day to learn about trading.
  • #594
  • Jun 30, 2020 2:47am Jun 30, 2020 2:47am
Quoting erann
{quote} Hello,I start learned trading since I was 16 years old back in 2014.6 Years passed and I still cant find a profitable method...I spent about minimum of 4 hours a day to learn about trading.

Hello there ,,
Please read my latest post on the project ,,,,

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post13032931

Cheers
George
LOVE YOUR GAME WITH A PASSION ,,,,, WORK WITH A VISION ! ! ! ! !
  • #595
  • Jun 30, 2020 3:17am Jun 30, 2020 3:17am
Quoting erann
{quote} Hello,how do you use george method to trade?I cannot understand the way he trade.
George and everyone here trades on pullbacks, in voltage-depletion zones, using filters, which are discussed in detail in the thread. I read this thread 3 times, now I read it selectively 4 times, where it is still not clear to me. You have a whole life ahead to learn
  • #596
  • Jun 30, 2020 3:28am Jun 30, 2020 3:28am
Quoting mik2012
{quote} George and everyone here trades on pullbacks, in voltage-depletion zones, using filters, which are discussed in detail in the thread. I read this thread 3 times, now I read it selectively 4 times, where it is still not clear to me. You have a whole life ahead to learn

Howdy Mik ,,
Quite a while ago I used to trade the pullback , BUT ,, ONLY cause I got the runs at their birth ,,,
So ,,,,often I was getting the reversals from the beginning ,,,, as I always like getting the best seat in the house ,,,

BUT ,,, Now things have changed dramatically ,,,,
Although I am not getting the best sea in the house ,,, except now with the full knowledge as to WHY ,,,

I think U better read my latest post in the project I quoted in my previous post here to erran,,,

There has been a game change at play ,,,

Cheers
George
LOVE YOUR GAME WITH A PASSION ,,,,, WORK WITH A VISION ! ! ! ! !
  • #597
  • Jun 30, 2020 4:06am Jun 30, 2020 4:06am
Quoting George AUS
{quote} It is my pleasure Mik ,,, I dont know where u got that 123 from ,, This is MY FINAL COMMENT TO EVERYONE ,,, IF ANY TRADER WANTS PRECISION DAY IN DAY OUT ,,,, LOOKS AT THIS CHART AND IGNORES THE REALITY IT IS TELLING US ,,,, GOOD LUCK TO THEM WITH THEIR JOURNEY ,,, I PERSONALLY GIVE UP ON THEM ! ! ! Yes I have come up with some great things ,, and they are still great ,,, BUT ,, What I am using now is the ULTIMATE FINDING ! ! ! Todays GJ action tells the story ,,,, Called the run up ,, and called the run down so far ,,, Good luck to everyone...
Hi George! That's where my level 123.6 comes from. Where did you get 127 and 177 I don’t know
Correction levels:
11.8%; 23.6%; 38.2%; 50.0%; 61.8%; 76.4%; 88.2%
Impulse Levels:
123.6%; 138.2%; 161.8%; 200.0%; 238.2%; 261.8%; 300.0%;
338.2%; 400.0%; 423.6%.

Cheers Mike
  • #598
  • Jun 30, 2020 4:11am Jun 30, 2020 4:11am
Quoting STrading
You guys know that movie Back to the future? This thread is like Back to the past, where people show up everyday to predict last day price. Predictions for tomorrow!!!!! GU went up then down
Thanks for your input. Keep posting, it’s entertaining.
  • #599
  • Jun 30, 2020 5:24am Jun 30, 2020 5:24am
Momentum in action GJ: General downtrend Н4: МА7 below МА20 and below МА200.
H1 here the price fell below MA7 and below MA20, while MA7 was above MA20
H15 here, MA7, along with the price, crossed MA200, while MA20 is higher than MA200 ... momentum is up until MA20 crossed MA200
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  • #600
  • Jun 30, 2020 6:06am Jun 30, 2020 6:06am
Quoting George AUS
{quote} Hello there ,, Please read my latest post on the project ,,,, https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...1#post13032931 Cheers George
hello, thank you for your kind help.I have save almost all your quotes there for me to learn.I already read it more than 10 times and I think I could getting something but I seemly cant understand.
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