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  • #3,901
  • May 19, 2020 1:20pm May 19, 2020 1:20pm
Quoting Garrus
Hi, what do You think guys? {image} {image}
It ls "top" in between- no signal. Did you check higher TFs? H4 and D1 do not show downtrend-» bad setup.
  • #3,902
  • May 19, 2020 1:23pm May 19, 2020 1:23pm
It could was a valid trade?
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  • #3,903
  • May 19, 2020 1:29pm May 19, 2020 1:29pm
Quoting vitall
GBPUSD: {image}{image}
In your screenshot, there are only two valid entries for HD. The red lines you drew was obviously wrong. It should never jump over any hills. It should be only the hill tops next to each other corresponding to the MACD diagram.
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  • #3,904
  • May 19, 2020 1:58pm May 19, 2020 1:58pm
Quoting mnmnmmnnmnmn
{quote} In your screenshot, there are only two valid entries for HD. The red lines you drew was obviously wrong. It should never jump over any hills. It should be only the hill tops next to each other corresponding to the MACD diagram. {image}
This is not "perfect" HD, I would say. But in combination with RD on lower TF it's tradable. It is my point of view.
  • #3,905
  • May 19, 2020 2:07pm May 19, 2020 2:07pm
Quoting Garrus
It could was a valid trade? {image} {image}
Looks like nice trade: M30-HD+M5-RD.
  • #3,906
  • May 19, 2020 2:15pm May 19, 2020 2:15pm
Quoting Garrus
It could was a valid trade? {image} {image}
It would be good to check trend direction on H4. If it's bullish+bullish HD+bullish RD-» good deal!
  • #3,907
  • May 19, 2020 4:50pm May 19, 2020 4:50pm
I realized that (even for myself) it's very easy to get trapped when the market is forming a Deep V or Inverse Deep V shape. After the news on the way back up or down, if you are not careful, you will get stopped out several time trading hidden divergence.
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  • #3,908
  • May 19, 2020 4:58pm May 19, 2020 4:58pm
And personally I find too much noise when trading H1 and lower. I have achieved much success trading H4 using H1 trend line break out entry with the direction of D1 trend. This is exactly the method introduced by Dan78 at the very first of this thread but on the higher time frame. This brings your total trading numbers way down but your success rate way higher. Good luck guys.
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  • #3,909
  • May 19, 2020 5:07pm May 19, 2020 5:07pm
And also one mistake I used to make all the time is that, within one chart, if I don't see any HD pattern, I tent to keep going down to lower time frame to make trades and got stopped out all the time. So according to what I said in the above thread, I stop and always stop in H4 chart. If I don't find anything in H4, I pass the pair and move on to the next one.
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  • #3,910
  • May 19, 2020 8:58pm May 19, 2020 8:58pm
Quoting mnmnmmnnmnmn
And personally I find too much noise when trading H1 and lower. I have achieved much success trading H4 using H1 trend line break out entry with the direction of D1 trend. This is exactly the method introduced by Dan78 at the very first of this thread but on the higher time frame. This brings your total trading numbers way down but your success rate way higher. Good luck guys.
Interesting, I’m learning too.

Do you scan for divergence only at D1 and then go to H1 for entry using trendline breakout method?

What Indicator did you used in D1 to determine the trend direction?
  • #3,911
  • May 19, 2020 11:07pm May 19, 2020 11:07pm
Quoting pohchuan
{quote} Interesting, I’m learning too. Do you scan for divergence only at D1 and then go to H1 for entry using trendline breakout method? What Indicator did you used in D1 to determine the trend direction?
I strictly follow Dan's method. Straight forward with no extra indicators for confirmation. The more filters you use, the more likely you'll get stopped out.

D1 chart gives me the overall market direction. Then I will use H4 to find HD patterns with the direction of the market. Then I go down to H1 chart to draw a trend line and wait for the price to hit the entry level.
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  • #3,912
  • May 19, 2020 11:21pm May 19, 2020 11:21pm
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As you guys can see, I draw the big trend line channel in D1, as a reminder to myself, never go against the trend to long. (if you don't believe it, just zoom into H1 chart, on this way down, you would've got busted by trading regular divergents against the main trend.)

With the main trend in mind, I then go down to H4 to look for bear HD only. Nothing else. and I found one.

Then after I go down to the H1 draw a trend line, find a good spot for your SL, then use your RR to see where your TP is. Set up both SL and TP and walk away.

Try to stay simple. I see lot of you guys start to implement other tools, to me, it is not necessary at all. But you do whatever help you to keep your win rate high up.

Last, with the trend line break out and SL right above previous high (in this case), I will guarantee you a super gravy RR ratio. So you can afford to lose more trades but still make tons money without stress.
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  • #3,913
  • May 19, 2020 11:51pm May 19, 2020 11:51pm
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One thing I forgot to mention is when this is a regular divergence developed in D1. Then don't go ahead looking for HD, because the current trend is exhausting.

That's it. I have shared everything I have learned about this methods. Now I 'll get lost and find myself more HD deals.

Good luck everyone. Peace.
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  • #3,914
  • May 20, 2020 12:23am May 20, 2020 12:23am
Not sure if I have drawn the HD correctly.

If correct, we should be expecting a price reversal to the downside, in the bearish direction.

Any comments will be appreciated.
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  • #3,915
  • May 20, 2020 2:19am May 20, 2020 2:19am
[quote = mnmnmmnnmnmn; 12951577] {image} {image} {image} Jak widzicie, rysuję duży kanał linii trendu w D1, dla przypomnienia, nigdy nie przeciwstawiam się trendowi zbyt długo. (jeśli w to nie wierzysz, po prostu powiększ mapę H1, po drodze w dół byś został przyłapany na handlu regularnymi rozbieżnościami w stosunku do głównego trendu). Mając na uwadze główny trend, przechodzę do H4, aby szukaj tylko niedźwiedzia HD. Nic więcej. i znalazłem jeden. Następnie, gdy zejdę do H1, narysuj linię trendu, znajdź dobre miejsce dla swojej SL, a następnie użyj RR, aby zobaczyć, gdzie jest twój TP. Skonfiguruj SL i TP i odejdź. Staraj się być prosty. Widzę, że wielu z was zaczyna wdrażać inne narzędzia, dla mnie nie jest to wcale konieczne. Ale robisz wszystko, co pomoże ci utrzymać wysoki wskaźnik wygranych. Wreszcie, gdy linia trendu się rozbiła, a SL tuż powyżej poprzedniego maksimum (w tym przypadku), Zagwarantuję ci współczynnik ciężkości RR. Możesz więc pozwolić sobie na utratę większej liczby transakcji, ale nadal zarabiać mnóstwo pieniędzy bez stresu. [/ Quote]

Hi, thank You man for Your help. You're right, less means more.
  • #3,916
  • May 20, 2020 2:24am May 20, 2020 2:24am
Quoting TomTypeS
Thanks you for all informations i'll read/watch it !! this thread is very nice !! What do you think about telegram group where all people can send analyse etc..
Maybe this is good idea to create telegram...
  • #3,917
  • May 20, 2020 4:35am May 20, 2020 4:35am
Quoting mnmnmmnnmnmn
{quote} I strictly follow Dan's method. Straight forward with no extra indicators for confirmation. The more filters you use, the more likely you'll get stopped out. D1 chart gives me the overall market direction. Then I will use H4 to find HD patterns with the direction of the market. Then I go down to H1 chart to draw a trend line and wait for the price to hit the entry level.
This is very similar with my strategy. I just added RD on H1:
HD on H4-> checking major trend->going to H1 for RD-> enter on TL break.
  • #3,918
  • May 20, 2020 6:16am May 20, 2020 6:16am
AUDCHF. A bullish Hidden Divergence pattern developing on the 4 HR timeframe and a bullish regular divergence on the 1 HR TF. Entry signals yet to be triggered.
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  • #3,919
  • May 20, 2020 2:15pm May 20, 2020 2:15pm
CADCHF:
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  • #3,920
  • May 21, 2020 5:33am May 21, 2020 5:33am
UUSDCHF: HD is forming:
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