Trading Institutional Order Flow
{quote} Hi DavidKl, I too trade using the D,4H and 1 Hour sequence and hope my response will be of use to you. Regarding your question about the 4 Hour TF, I typically only use it for trend. There are two reasons I do this: (1) it helps me stay focused on using each TF for a specific purpose or else I could be overwhelmed with looking for zones to trade out of and (2) if a zone forms on the 4 H, a zone would have formed on the 1 Hour which you could then use instead since the execution timeframe is the one hour anyway. As for the questions regarding...
{quote} Hi Mangoeater and thanks for your reply. That's exactly where I am getting confused and it starts the paralysis with the zones (on the 4H chart) and if I should I use them or not, or what the heck I supposed to do. I don't have a problem with the perfect scenarios, where the price just left the Daily Demand or Supply as the 4 hour shows a clear trend and then there is no problems with getting the trade from the clearly defined 1 hour zones. The problem arrives when the price is inside the daily for me, as I'm not sure if I should look at...
{quote} Hi DavidKl, Fully understand the confusion and have been in the same place before and am still learning too. But have you heard of confirmation entries? When price enters into the Daily demand zone and rallies, I would actually be dropping to the 1 hour chart to look for price to turn and take it as a confirmation trade. For example, using your analysis on USDCAD, the trade i would take is as such: {image} So thats how I would take it when price reaches a HTF zone. I would typically ignore the middle timeframe, go straight to the lower timeframe...
{quote} Hi Mangoeater and thanks for your reply. That's exactly where I am getting confused and it starts the paralysis with the zones (on the 4H chart) and if I should I use them or not, or what the heck I supposed to do. I don't have a problem with the perfect scenarios, where the price just left the Daily Demand or Supply as the 4 hour shows a clear trend and then there is no problems with getting the trade from the clearly defined 1 hour zones. The problem arrives when the price is inside the daily for me, as I'm not sure if I should look at...
{quote} Hello DavidKI Thank you for your charts and questions on the USDCAD. If i may, it seems that the challenge here for you is how to combine trends on different timeframes when doing multi-timeframe analysis. So let's talk about that a little bit, using the USDCAD. best wishes{image}{image}
and we got a long bias. 
) . {quote} Hi Akt, Thank you for your reply. I understand what you are saying about the 4H and 1H that 1H its a zoomed in version of the 4H and so on. My confusion is and I think this might be a tricky scenario. I attached the below pictures, I drew it so it better represents the scenario in question. Daily Curve TF - Price reacted of the daily Demand (Low On the Curve). Self explanatory really
{quote} Hi YKN4F, thank you for your reply. That helped a lot, I think I am getting a little confused with how Alfonso Moreno is using the trendlines, as he was considering a change of trend when the trendline is broken and 1 supply zone is removed. I think this is more viable when looking at the confirmation trades. Also, maybe you or AKT could help me out with understanding the multiple time frame analysis and the sequence you all use when entering a trade. It might be a newbie question, but I'd appreciate as it would help me to lay down the foundations....
