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  • #641
  • Oct 30, 2006 5:22am Oct 30, 2006 5:22am
can any good soul post the final version of Tlatomi method combinding with all the indicators that you are using.... Thanks in advance.
May the pips be with me !!!
  • #642
  • Oct 30, 2006 11:25am Oct 30, 2006 11:25am
hi folks

i have finished reading this thread and think its a good method

i have 2 questions

is my entry correct on the chart?

1. the cci cross 2. the dot 3. the cross

if its corect why did the alert not appear on the chart for the ema cross? or does it appear on the next candle? for me its now a clear cross

my other question is about the ea, i have made backtest on fxdd of the 1.0e version and it always only opened positions in the other direction, for example there was a buy signal and it opened a sell and for a sell signal it opened a buy. is it just on my side this bug ?

i will start now forward testing this version and i will see if there will be this bug.
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  • #643
  • Oct 30, 2006 1:26pm Oct 30, 2006 1:26pm
You should wait for the arrow to appear, then enter. The MA is predicated on the Don of the period. So you wait for the period to end then enter after the arrow appears.
  • #644
  • Oct 31, 2006 5:13am Oct 31, 2006 5:13am
Quoting ART_1_
my other question is about the ea, i have made backtest on fxdd of the 1.0e version and it always only opened positions in the other direction, for example there was a buy signal and it opened a sell and for a sell signal it opened a buy. is it just on my side this bug ?
Exactly the same happened to me on my forward testing. I tried to tweak it using different settings but it did not provide the expected results, so I finished to test this EA without success.

Perhaps you could ask an experienced programmer to look into the code and improve it.
  • #645
  • Edited 4:52am Nov 2, 2006 4:47am | Edited 4:52am
In attached file you can find my backtesting result of original tlatomi strategy.. the file is not done yet, I have to do September and October...
I did backtesting on entering the trade by original tlatomi setup and entering only on nonlag indicator...

The conclusion, for now, is:


if u enter on proper tlatomi signal you can achieve 10 pips for sure (100% for now)... excellent for beginners!

if u enter ONLY on yellow (nonlag) line, you can get much more pips overall, with TP 10 pips, if u can stop the eventual lost trade within 60-70 pips...

ONE IMPORTANT QUESTION:

Did anyone solve invisibility of the dot?
For example, if u have opened platform and the dot is on the previous bar, the curent bar is then closed and the dot remain on the previous bar... but, if u change chart to 1h and back to 4h, the dot moves from previous to closed one... and it can skip crossing signal, so you cannot be sure is it a good signal...

BUT, if you do not change from 4h (or any other time) to 1h and vice versa,or shut down a platform, you have a good signal without knowing that the dot has moved but you do not see it....
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip statistics.zip   9 KB | 590 downloads
  • #646
  • Nov 2, 2006 6:53am Nov 2, 2006 6:53am
Quoting wackena
Zolero over at the MQL / forum was kind enough to advise how to change SH_SilverTrendSig to auto redraw dot to keep chart current. This eliminates the need to reset chart to see current dot. Also, I changed the dot to an up or down arrow.

Wackena

I have found answer to my question....
  • #647
  • Nov 2, 2006 7:03am Nov 2, 2006 7:03am
Quoting A1Cruiser
Exactly the same happened to me on my forward testing. I tried to tweak it using different settings but it did not provide the expected results, so I finished to test this EA without success.

Perhaps you could ask an experienced programmer to look into the code and improve it.
Could I have link to latest Tlatomi EA ? May be I can take a look at it to find out what's problem

thx
  • #648
  • Nov 2, 2006 7:08am Nov 2, 2006 7:08am
Hi ferovca

Interesting about the "guarenteed" 10 pips on a tlatomi signal. What is the avg. drawdown/risk before you see the 10 pips gain? My question is that it is pointless waiting for 10 "guarenteed" points if you have to ride out a drawdown of eg. 50 points first.

Cheers,

JC
  • #649
  • Nov 2, 2006 7:52am Nov 2, 2006 7:52am
Quoting skyline
Could I have link to latest Tlatomi EA ? May be I can take a look at it to find out what's problem

thx

hi skyline

it would be great if you could have a look in the code and find where the problem is. thx

this are the last 2 versions

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...&postcount=418

  • #650
  • Nov 2, 2006 8:32am Nov 2, 2006 8:32am
Quoting ART_1_
hi skyline

it would be great if you could have a look in the code and find where the problem is. thx

this are the last 2 versions

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...&postcount=418

Ok well i will try but i'm not sure to be able to fix it I have to understand how EA is working before to find error
Is it supposed that v1.0e follow TigaAbdul-Tlatomi modification rules made by OrangeRoshan ?
  • #651
  • Nov 2, 2006 8:38am Nov 2, 2006 8:38am
Quoting Waka
Hi ferovca

Interesting about the "guarenteed" 10 pips on a tlatomi signal. What is the avg. drawdown/risk before you see the 10 pips gain? My question is that it is pointless waiting for 10 "guarenteed" points if you have to ride out a drawdown of eg. 50 points first.

Cheers,

JC
You have to do it like a machine.... My friend and I trade together, he is a machine, EA for this strategy, I just do research ....


So, he enters a trade, put TP 10 pips and SL 100 pips and enjoy adrenaline rush... In the meantime , I read forexfactory forum, learn and so on... after a trade is done, he calls me and tells me what the score is...

We catch only 10 pips because it is reliable and margin we are using gives enough profit for us ( we have big account ).

Keep it simple...
  • #652
  • Nov 3, 2006 2:59am Nov 3, 2006 2:59am
Quoting ART_1_
hi skyline

it would be great if you could have a look in the code and find where the problem is. thx

this are the last 2 versions

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...&postcount=418

What are those ? scripts or indicators ?
Brainstorming ... the ...
  • #653
  • Nov 3, 2006 12:52pm Nov 3, 2006 12:52pm
Quoting skyline
Ok well i will try but i'm not sure to be able to fix it I have to understand how EA is working before to find error
Is it supposed that v1.0e follow TigaAbdul-Tlatomi modification rules made by OrangeRoshan ?
Skyline,

Yes, you are right, it was a Tlatomi system modified by TigaAbdul, with a 5 EMA and 9 SMA. Attached you can find some screenshots (the colour HMA does not belong to the EA or the system ) and a template that lists the indicators.
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip Tlatomi_Images.zip   59 KB | 790 downloads
  • #654
  • Nov 4, 2006 1:45pm Nov 4, 2006 1:45pm
Quoting ferovca


So, he enters a trade, put TP 10 pips and SL 100 pips and enjoy adrenaline rush...
Ouch... One bad trade will eliminate 10 good trades. Think about it.
Trax Tibidax Tibidox...
  • #655
  • Nov 4, 2006 9:37pm Nov 4, 2006 9:37pm
have been using this method for last 2 months.
some signals come delayed, yet profiatble.
there seems to be a lot of confusion amongst traders here.
the best solution to discuss this method well is for people to post charts which show possible entry signals here and then we can agree/disagree on it.
cmon, traders trding on 4 hr charts--there is a lotta time to discuus a potential trade as entry is usually on the opening of the next candle.

wait for the new week to see any potential trade setups !!
  • #656
  • Nov 4, 2006 11:45pm Nov 4, 2006 11:45pm
Hi from dedly in Perth Western Australia. I am a very new member of the forum, & very new to forex trading!
An aquaintance who has been very helpful to me advised me of this forum. I do NOT know if I'm allowed to ask questions, BUT he advised I look at the Bagovino & Tlatomi methods. I have a dummy account with an Australian stockbroker. Would someone please be kind enough to explain where I can get required indicators for these methods?
Also where I can get the information regarding these 2 methods.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Dedly
  • #657
  • Nov 5, 2006 3:10am Nov 5, 2006 3:10am
Hi Dedly,
The Tlatlomi pdf file and indicator zip file are in the first post on page 1 of this tlatomi thread.The Bagovino Method is at the start of the Bagovino thread.
http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...light=Bagovino

Good trading,
Flyer373
  • #658
  • Edited 6:25am Nov 5, 2006 6:17am | Edited 6:25am
Quoting masterpiecefx
Ouch... One bad trade will eliminate 10 good trades. Think about it.


Check the file... so far not a single bad trade with proper tlatomi signal... and nobody stops you to take more than 10 pips ( for example, 80% close at 10 pips, 20% let running), so in overall, 1 bad trade doesnt take 10 trades but less....

Other thing is, next signal is generated (crossing) before the stop loss is triggered, so , at the end, you do not have 100 pips loss, but less...

If there is a crossing, and you didnt achieve 10 pips, you must close position at crossing price... (beware of big news...)

And think about this:

if the price goes in loss direction before achieving 10 pips, you can open another positions at -10, -20... from the opening price which signal pointed at and close all positions at +10 pips. This method gives you more profit and less loss...

Cheers...
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File Type: pdf statistics.pdf   10 KB | 837 downloads
  • #659
  • Nov 5, 2006 8:45am Nov 5, 2006 8:45am
Quoting dedly
Hi from dedly in Perth Western Australia. I am a very new member of the forum, & very new to forex trading!
An aquaintance who has been very helpful to me advised me of this forum. I do NOT know if I'm allowed to ask questions, BUT he advised I look at the Bagovino & Tlatomi methods. I have a dummy account with an Australian stockbroker. Would someone please be kind enough to explain where I can get required indicators for these methods?
Also where I can get the information regarding these 2 methods.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Dedly
I would recommend going through this thread. There are a number of atttached PDF's and indicators for this method. Around 01-15 2006 the latest verson of the 'method' is documented in an excellent PDF.
  • #660
  • Nov 5, 2006 8:47am Nov 5, 2006 8:47am
Quoting ferovca
Check the file... so far not a single bad trade with proper tlatomi signal... and nobody stops you to take more than 10 pips ( for example, 80% close at 10 pips, 20% let running), so in overall, 1 bad trade doesnt take 10 trades but less....

Other thing is, next signal is generated (crossing) before the stop loss is triggered, so , at the end, you do not have 100 pips loss, but less...

If there is a crossing, and you didnt achieve 10 pips, you must close position at crossing price... (beware of big news...)

And think about this:

if the price goes in loss direction before achieving 10 pips, you can open another positions at -10, -20... from the opening price which signal pointed at and close all positions at +10 pips. This method gives you more profit and less loss...

Cheers...
Terrific job compiling stats, 2 questions. Were the trades Cabel? Did the Alligator get used as a filter?

Thanks.
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