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  • #361
  • Apr 14, 2020 9:39am Apr 14, 2020 9:39am
Quoting Shabs19
{quote} Unbelievable really, you still carp on about this. Nobody is defending Sam Seiden or OTA. Supply & Demand is what it is, it's what moves the markets amongst other things. Economics 101. The FTC Charges are for the unscrupulous methods used by the organisation to take money off the uninformed & gullible. How many times must I repeat this. I have sat through the OTA sales presentation, followed by the sales pitch and also questioned the presenters/sales staff and I wisely decided that this route was not for me. Like many people I am sure,...
Don't bother explaining it to him. He will sound like a broken record and keep asking you for TE. You can't fix stupid.
  • #362
  • Apr 14, 2020 9:57am Apr 14, 2020 9:57am
Quoting Shabs19
{quote} Unbelievable really, you still carp on about this. Nobody is defending Sam Seiden or OTA. Supply & Demand is what it is, it's what moves the markets amongst other things. Economics 101. The FTC Charges are for the unscrupulous methods used by the organisation to take money off the uninformed & gullible. How many times must I repeat this. I have sat through the OTA sales presentation, followed by the sales pitch and also questioned the presenters/sales staff and I wisely decided that this route was not for me. Like many people I am sure,...
But... this is what the thread is about... LOL ..Just to be clear.. I only said what FTC said.
FTC lawsuit specifies there is no proof of the guy actually being a trader.. That's it.. You are the one getting pissed from this

You all turned this into another discussion.
  • #363
  • Apr 14, 2020 9:59am Apr 14, 2020 9:59am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Don't bother explaining it to him. He will sound like a broken record and keep asking you for TE. You can't fix stupid.
Yep buddy.. my TE is there.. for you to see my GBPCAD trades and the ones I took later...

Seems that your Sell is very close to SL now .. unlucky (IF you actually took it tho, cuz of course, we cannot know with a screenshot)

But I do hope GBPCAD goes down tho... so I can Buy again
  • #364
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:05am Apr 14, 2020 10:05am
Quoting GMD
{quote} Yep buddy.. my TE is there.. for you to see my GBPCAD trades and the ones I took later... Seems that your Sell is very close to SL now .. unlucky (IF you actually took it tho, cuz of course, we cannot know with a screenshot) But I do hope GBPCAD goes down tho... so I can Buy again
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  • #365
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:16am Apr 14, 2020 10:16am
Just received this in email:

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  • #366
  • Edited 10:44am Apr 14, 2020 10:19am | Edited 10:44am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} . {image}
Uhmmmm this is not what you shared yesterday mate

This is your 4H chart from yesterday.. Hey you still got some margin.. Like I said, hope it goes down so I can buy again hehe

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And here is your W1 chart from yesterday... in both we can see SL at 1.7575.. Now you moved it.. we don't know.. Maybe you come back in a few days saying "hey I didn't lose.. I broke even"...

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BUT YOU SEE.. Without TE we cannot know whats going on.

You challenged my trade without any idea of how I trade... You don't know how I trade because I don't go around talking big shit saying "this works for me.. if it doesn't for you, go learn cuz your dumb" ... thats what you do mate..

I dont care if you lose the trade.. but you should humble up a bit.... We were talking against S&D zones theories.. you came here saying it works very good for you. .and treating us as if we were stupid for not understanding S&D zones concept... Well all I was asking to you is to back up your words with DATA, thats all. not for judging your work.. but to see if there is something I could learn about and apply it myself..
Otherwise theres nothing for you in this thread mate..

So to all S&D zones traders... if it works for you.. thats great, I am happy for you.. all I want is for traders in FF to make profit..

But let us keep discussing about how Sam Seiden scamming many people..
  • #367
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:24am Apr 14, 2020 10:24am
Quoting GMD
{quote} Uhmmmm this is not what you shared yesterday mate This is your 4H chart from yesterday.. Hey you still got some margin.. Like I said, hope it goes down so I can buy again hehe {image} And here is your W1 chart from yesterday... in both we can see SL at 1.7575 {image} BUT YOU SEE.. Without TE we cannot know whats going on.
Yesterday i shared the same currency on a weekly and 4 Hr time frame. I am still holding the position. Today I shared a monthly chart, the same currency same position from yesterday. Why so confused? My margin is fine, everything was calculated within money management. I moved my stop loss further up true, but it is a micro position for this one. I don't really care about you or how you trade. It works for me true. If it does not work for you, find something else that does. Simple.
  • #368
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:25am Apr 14, 2020 10:25am
Quoting pooh123
Just received this in email: Dear Trader, Sam Seiden, one of the most sought-after FX educators, will present 2 new webinars in the coming days. https://gallery.mailchimp.com/ddc02e...76664fd2ba.png Sam Seiden, brings over 17 years experience of equities and futures trading which began when he was on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. Real Market Timing - Only for...
Marketers of trading courses are not scammer.
Know what you trade
  • #369
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:37am Apr 14, 2020 10:37am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Yesterday i shared the same currency on a weekly and 4 Hr time frame. I am still holding the position. Today I shared a monthly chart, the same currency same position from yesterday. Why so confused? My margin is fine, everything was calculated within money management. I moved my stop loss further up true, but it is a micro position for this one. I don't really care about you or how you trade. It works for me true. If it does not work for you, find something else that does. Simple.
HAHA you don't read dont you?? Keep saying that I need to find other things that does. I have a TE, even if I lose, I share it.. you don't.. But I dont go around shitting on other people

I think its time to say to you:

Go find something that works for you buddy!

Good luck.

Bye
  • #370
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:41am Apr 14, 2020 10:41am
Quoting GMD
{quote} HAHA you don't read dont you?? Keep saying that I need to find other things that does. I have a TE, even if I lose, I share it.. you don't.. But I dont go around shitting on other people I think its time to say to you: Go find something that works for you buddy! Good luck. Bye
Found it long time ago. I will share my position on GBPCAD win or lose. Find something that works for you. You have a long way to go. Don't get frustrated, come around September, I am sure you'll be back to your day job. Good luck TE.
  • #371
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:42am Apr 14, 2020 10:42am
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Found it long time ago. I will share my position on GBPCAD win or lose. Find something that works for you. You have a long way to go. Don't get frustrated, come around September, I am sure you'll be back to your day job. Good luck TE.
HAHA i have to admit, you are funny mate!

Have a good life
  • #372
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:44am Apr 14, 2020 10:44am
Quoting GMD
{quote} HAHA i have to admit, you are funny mate! Have a good life
I do have a good life. Not being funny with you at all. You can't fix stupid. It's ok, soon you will be back to your day job TE. Until than, practice your forex trading, if you're serious about it, it will pay off at the end. It's ok, relax, go have a coffee, don't be frustrated.
  • #373
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:50am Apr 14, 2020 10:50am
Quoting pooh123
Just received this in email: Dear Trader, Sam Seiden, one of the most sought-after FX educators, will present 2 new webinars in the coming days. https://gallery.mailchimp.com/ddc02e...76664fd2ba.png Sam Seiden, brings over 17 years experience of equities and futures trading which began when he was on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange. Real Market Timing - Only for...
So obviously carrying on as if nothing has happened.

Always do due diligence, go to independent reviewers wherever possible, look at the warnings, this ones from the UK :

https://www.trustpilot.com/review/ww...ingacademy.com
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #374
  • Apr 14, 2020 10:57am Apr 14, 2020 10:57am
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} Marketers of trading courses are not scammer.
unless they knowingly market questionable courses...by that act they become the very least accomplices to the scammers.
https://www.tradingschools.org/onlin...y-ftc-lawsuit/
the case summary is on page 2-4.
there is always, always another trade!!
  • #375
  • Apr 14, 2020 11:11am Apr 14, 2020 11:11am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} unless they knowingly market questionable courses...by that act they become the very least accomplices to the scammers. https://www.tradingschools.org/onlin...y-ftc-lawsuit/ the case summary is on page 2-4.
That's until FTC gets a guilty verdict.
Know what you trade
  • #376
  • Apr 14, 2020 11:42am Apr 14, 2020 11:42am
Quoting profitfarmer
{quote} unless they knowingly market questionable courses...by that act they become the very least accomplices to the scammers. https://www.tradingschools.org/onlin...y-ftc-lawsuit/ the case summary is on page 2-4.
I think the FTC had their investigators, undercover of course, enrolled probably with recording devices, as they are quoting presenter by name and what they said during the introductory talks and the courses themselves. So it's not alleged or second hand information they are working with.

The presenters making the false claims, by implication, are representing their company & it's owners so I don't think it will be easy for them to duck that one.

They are definitely in a lot of trouble, if the FTC have decided to prosecute. But we will have to wait to see, whether they accept the charges or fight them.
With the state of the world at the moment, I don't think that's anytime soon, so maybe, they will carry on with the scam.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #377
  • Apr 14, 2020 12:00pm Apr 14, 2020 12:00pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} But... this is what the thread is about... LOL ..Just to be clear.. I only said what FTC said. FTC lawsuit specifies there is no proof of the guy actually being a trader.. That's it..
We will wait & see, when the judgement is made.

It's not over till the fat lady sings................
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #378
  • Apr 14, 2020 12:08pm Apr 14, 2020 12:08pm
Quoting Shabs19
{quote} We will wait & see, when the judgement is made. It's not over till the fat lady sings................
Innocent until proven guilty. Presumption of innocence.
  • #379
  • Apr 14, 2020 12:12pm Apr 14, 2020 12:12pm
Me reading the arguments on this thread ------>
  • #380
  • Apr 14, 2020 12:13pm Apr 14, 2020 12:13pm
Quoting BWilliam
{quote} That's until FTC gets a guilty verdict.
may noticed or not, the FTC is acting on behalf of not 1, but 3 plaintiffs, with names, phone numbers and emails included...
so not exactly the faceless internet forum suspicion very likely,
that said,
just as at most job, while under investigation, the employee gets suspended,
similar approach could be rightfully expected from FXStreet too, at least as a precaution.
also, it is stated that the defendants' personal and corporate assets has been frozen...lets assume that is enough to credible doubt.

sure,
the final verdict will decide on guilt, but the same time if assets and accounts frozen, where exactly that webinars monies paid to and how?
accomplice. a good word. fits.
there is always, always another trade!!
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