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  • #121
  • Apr 10, 2020 12:53pm Apr 10, 2020 12:53pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} YES you are right... but I think you just read a very small part of it.. https://www.tradingschools.org/onlin...s-its-a-fraud/ They sued people who talked bad about the program.. But still luring people to make them believe they will become profitable "day traders"... Non of this happens because its all "fuggazzi" Bye
S&D is trade on a monthly, weekly, daily and sometimes 4 hour chart. S&D should not be traded on small time frames. This just shows that you do not know at all S&D trading. Absolutely you have no idea how to apply a tool S&D.
  • #122
  • Apr 10, 2020 12:53pm Apr 10, 2020 12:53pm
Quoting viptrading
{image} Here is another one. This is OIL. This is the last one I will post. Figure it out yourself, or believe what you want but supply and demand, support and resistance is real. Price doesn't just bounce off these zones for no reason. People want to buy or sell at the best price possible, because of this, areas of interest and agreed price of good "value" may repeat in the future. When those areas get broken or change due to some economic factor price will always find a new area of agreed price...
Yep thats some pro shit
  • #123
  • Apr 10, 2020 12:54pm Apr 10, 2020 12:54pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} S&D is trade on a monthly, weekly, daily and sometimes 4 hour chart. S&D should not be traded on small time frames. This just shows that you do not know at all S&D trading. Absolutely you have no idea how to apply a tool S&D.
Sure mate. And you do.. Well unfortunately there is not way to know that.. right?
  • #124
  • Apr 10, 2020 12:55pm Apr 10, 2020 12:55pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} Lol now I realized I got in a very sensible thread... how I dare to talk badly about Supply and Demand Zones... oh noo... Sam Saiden is being charged for scamming... Yet so many here saying I am the silly one.. and angry one I am done here.. Have fun with your fairy tale guys... the holy grail is waiting for you at the end.. hang tight!!
It's the fact that you are saying something doesn't exist when it clearly does...I am trying to help you but sadly I think I am wasting my time. You asked for charts, I posted two charts to make you see.

You keep talking about this guys scam but that has nothing to do with it. He may be a scammer, maybe not, I am not involved with his case and nor do I care. I do care when people want to talk about fundamental parts of trading and say they do not exist just because they do not understand how it works.

This is just like the threads saying "forex is a scam" or forex is random" sayign that "supply in demand is a fairytale" is the same thing. It is just really arrogant and annoys me that people want to claim these things without any proof.

If supply and demand/support and resistance doesn't work then what does GMD? Why don't you tell us why prices move if not for agreed value at specific prices? What is the reason? Is it random?
  • #125
  • Apr 10, 2020 12:57pm Apr 10, 2020 12:57pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} Sure mate. And you do.. Well unfortunately there is not way to know that.. right?
I do have been trading that tool for years. Of course applying it with COT reports and paying attention to economics and fundamentals. There is a way to know, I post all my charts before and after the fact. Winners and losers. If you can't see it or don't understand it, stick to your whatever is it strategy that you trade. You have not share one chart to show us examples on how you trade buy/sell. Nothing so far, all you did was complaining.
  • #126
  • Apr 10, 2020 12:57pm Apr 10, 2020 12:57pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} Yep thats some pro shit
LOL. You literally proved my point. I posted a chart and you have no response other than to talk shit and say I'm bullshitting. So, what was the point of asking me to post charts?

I don't even think you understand your own logic.
  • #127
  • Apr 10, 2020 12:58pm Apr 10, 2020 12:58pm
Quoting viptrading
{quote} LOL. You literally proved my point. I posted a chart and you have no response other than to talk shit and say I'm bullshitting. So, what was the point of asking me to post charts? I don't even think you understand your own logic.
Yeah his brain is not functioning. He clearly does not understand S&D. What can you do.
  • #128
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:04pm Apr 10, 2020 1:04pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} What about judges and legal system?? Seriously mate.. are you a jorunalist?? You are good at deceiving other people words..
The FTC are investigating OTA and have charged them. Now OTA will mount a defence against the charges.
If OTC lose they will have to pay a hefty fine, maybe licence revoked etc. etc.

The link you gave is from a reporter working for the tradingschools.org

Read this: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/pres...tment-training

The case is not concluded and the charges are only for mis-selling and harrasment of clients.

Please read & interpret the report first, before charging in head first and making judgements based on your personal experience of Supply & Demand trading.
Which incidentally was not invented by Sam Seiden or the OTA, it has existed since the very first markets began.

Different traders have "discovered" ways to read the price charts, this being only one of many methods.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #129
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:07pm Apr 10, 2020 1:07pm
Quoting Shabs19
{quote} The FTC are investigating OTA and have charged them. Now OTA will mount a defence against the charges. If OTC lose they will have to pay a hefty fine, maybe licence revoked etc. etc. The link you gave is from a reporter working for the tradingschools.org The case is not concluded and the charges are only for mis-selling and harrasment of clients. Please read & interpret the report first, before charging in head first and making judgements based on your personal experience of Supply & Demand trading. Which incidentally was not invented by...
Well said. I will not be surprised even if OTA wins the case.
  • #130
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:18pm Apr 10, 2020 1:18pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} Lol now I realized I got in a very sensible thread... how I dare to talk badly about Supply and Demand Zones... oh noo... Sam Saiden is being charged for scamming... Yet so many here saying I am the silly one.. and angry one I am done here.. Have fun with your fairy tale guys... the holy grail is waiting for you at the end.. hang tight!!
GMD you're not going to win this argument here, trust me. They couldn't show you any TE of profitable trading BECAUSE they don't have it, simple as abc.

It's very hard thing to admit. Ask for just 6 month of profitable trading TE here on forex factory, 90% of traders on here couldn't provide you one, it's not about ego, the simple answer is, they don't have it, so they will come up with why it's personal, why they can't show you, bla bla bla. Not just with S&D trading method, with other methodology too.

So don't beat yourself up, you're not about to change ff , at least not anytime soon.
When U allow your emotions to dictate your decisions, U make bad decision
  • #131
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:19pm Apr 10, 2020 1:19pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Yeah his brain is not functioning. He clearly does not understand S&D. What can you do.
Sure buddy my brain is broken...

How fool I am, S&D theories are the way to go... You are all proving your words with real numbers..

Just like this numbers on regulated brokers.... Demo.. Live.. shorterm.. longterm.. doesn't matter.. at least I have some balls to back up my words buddy

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Have fun with your fairy tale... Please let me know when you find the holy grail!
  • #132
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:23pm Apr 10, 2020 1:23pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} Sure buddy my brain is broken... How fool I am, S&D theories are the way to go... You are all proving your words with real numbers.. Just like this numbers on regulated brokers.... Demo.. Live.. shorterm.. longterm.. doesn't matter.. at least I have some balls to back up my words buddy {image} {image} Have fun with your fairy tale... Please let me know when you find the holy grail!
No holy grail in forex trading. Stop talking stupid buddy you're making it worst for yourself. Nice TE demo and live account. Good for you keep it up. Nice earnings % now how much do you make a month in $?
  • #133
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:26pm Apr 10, 2020 1:26pm
Quoting SolidSnake-
{quote} GMD you're not going to win this argument here, trust me. They couldn't show you any TE of profitable trading BECAUSE they don't have it, simple as abc. It's very hard thing to admit. Ask for just 6 month of profitable trading TE here on forex factory, 90% of traders on here couldn't provide you one, it's not about ego, the simple answer is, they don't have it, so they will come up with why it's personal, why they can't show you, bla bla bla. Not just with S&D trading method, with other methodology too. So don't beat yourself up, you're...
I have profitable statement trading back 5 years. But will not show it to you or anyone. Who are you to me that I have to show it? Nobody. Think whatever you want to. I have been trading forex full time for years. Very happy about the business I chose. This is what pays my house, my car and sometimes buying another old house, flipping it and selling it. I will not show you my bank accounts. You don't believe me or you do I don't really care buddy.
  • #134
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:27pm Apr 10, 2020 1:27pm
Quoting SolidSnake-
{quote} GMD you're not going to win this argument here, trust me. They couldn't show you any TE of profitable trading BECAUSE they don't have it, simple as abc. It's very hard thing to admit. Ask for just 6 month of profitable trading TE here on forex factory, 90% of traders on here couldn't provide you one, it's not about ego, the simple answer is, they don't have it, so they will come up with why it's personal, why they can't show you, bla bla bla. Not just with S&D trading method, with other methodology too. So don't beat yourself up, you're...
You are right mate. Its not just about S&D.. its about every person here claiming they are freaken pro traders but as soon as you ask for proof they get offended.. How you dare to ask such a personal thing???
Well.. stop sharing your bullshit here as if you knew what you are talking about... There is people here trying to learn for real.

Now, I am not here saying I know what I am doing.. but at least I show my results. This people can't.. at least 2 months.. just can't LOL

All clowns.
  • #135
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:29pm Apr 10, 2020 1:29pm
Quoting SolidSnake-
{quote} GMD you're not going to win this argument here, trust me. They couldn't show you any TE of profitable trading BECAUSE they don't have it, simple as abc. It's very hard thing to admit. Ask for just 6 month of profitable trading TE here on forex factory, 90% of traders on here couldn't provide you one, it's not about ego, the simple answer is, they don't have it, so they will come up with why it's personal, why they can't show you, bla bla bla. Not just with S&D trading method, with other methodology too. So don't beat yourself up, you're...
Again. This is a logical fallacy. Just because someone doesn't show you a TE does not mean supply and demand doesn't exist. You make 0 sense. Btw wheres your TE?
  • #136
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:29pm Apr 10, 2020 1:29pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} You are right mate. Its not just about S&D.. its about every person here claiming they are freaken pro traders but as soon as you ask for proof they get offended.. How you dare to ask such a personal thing??? Well.. stop sharing your bullshit here as if you knew what you are talking about... There is people here trying to learn for real. Now, I am not here saying I know what I am doing.. but at least I show my results. This people can't.. at least 2 months.. just can't LOL All clowns.
I will not show you my bank accounts and my earnings. So far you are the only clown here. Don't make it worst for yourself.
  • #137
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:30pm Apr 10, 2020 1:30pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} No holy grail in forex trading. Stop talking stupid buddy you're making it worst for yourself. Nice TE demo and live account. Good for you keep it up. Nice earnings % now how much do you make a month in $?
How much I make in a month.. THAT is personal... Showing % is harmless... a 100% could be millions or just hundreds.. no one knows.. but % is what matters..

Dont show 5 years buddy.. All I am saying is.. at least show us last 2 months... S&D trader

Please, regulated broker
  • #138
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:31pm Apr 10, 2020 1:31pm
Quoting GMD
{quote} How much I make in a month.. THAT is personal... Showing % is harmless... a 100% could be millions or just hundreds.. no one knows.. but % is what matters.. Dont show 5 years buddy.. All I am saying is.. at least show us last 2 months... S&D trader Please, regulated broker
My brokers are forex.com and friedberg direct fx. All canadian all regulated. I will not show you my bank accounts and earnings.
  • #139
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:32pm Apr 10, 2020 1:32pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} I will not show you my bank accounts and my earnings. So far you are the only clown here. Don't make it worst for yourself.
Whos talking about bank account or earnings mate???...

Showing % is harmless... Stop making excuses and be honest with yourself.. You can't upload it...

I am not here to make fun of you mate.. But you are claiming S&D works.. when the person who created the methodology in techninal analysis is actually a fraud.....

Don't claim S&D works when you can't prove it... In fact.. no S&D trader has evern proved ANYTHING.

I am not saying what I do works... But again, I have the guts to upload what I do... anyone here is free to judge me or follow me day by day..
  • #140
  • Apr 10, 2020 1:33pm Apr 10, 2020 1:33pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} My brokers are forex.com and friedberg direct fx. All canadian all regulated. I will not show you my bank accounts and earnings.
What bank account or earnings buddy???... Can't you see what I just posted???? There is no bank account or earnings... JUST %.. JUST PORCENTAGE...

No harm in % mate.

Cheers
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