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  • #1,561
  • Jan 28, 2020 7:28am Jan 28, 2020 7:28am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Like this ? {image} {image}
and monthly chart
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  • #1,562
  • Jan 28, 2020 7:58am Jan 28, 2020 7:58am
Simplification is ALWAYS a productive strategy to understand Price Action

Swing BE (orange) is the concatenation of Swings BC, CD, DE (yellow)
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  • #1,563
  • Jan 28, 2020 8:02am Jan 28, 2020 8:02am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Like this ? {image} {image}
Intraday
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  • #1,564
  • Jan 28, 2020 9:00am Jan 28, 2020 9:00am
Quoting parisboy
Simplification is ALWAYS a productive strategy to understand Price Action Swing BE (orange) is the concatenation of Swings BC, CD, DE (yellow) {image}
Thank you, that's what I also saw when I did the daily analysis: the price move inside the waves (or grid) i' am happy for that!
This night , maybe , I can go on studying a bit on this 3D ... I'm still on page 27 but I read and re-read every page many times, so it takes me a long time but I think it is worth it.

PS: I am looking at AUD / USD, if I say right then it could reverse the daily wave ese if in the low TF rises still a dozen pips maybe I am looking for the setup to enter the market (long)
  • #1,565
  • Jan 28, 2020 11:17am Jan 28, 2020 11:17am
Quoting LvCa
{quote} Thank you sir , the entry on the 5M was made because on the Daily chart it gave me a probable change, so I went down to 5min to take the entry .... BUT if I understand correctly what you said: - high TF, Gann analysis (or similar) -TF low, with PA (or indicators, etc.) for the inputs .. therefore no GAnn for low TF .... Did I get it right ?
LvCa, First of all, what I am saying is: If you want to get more winners than losing trades go to a higher time frame. I do not know anyone that has ever consistently made money trading in 1M, 5M, 15M timeframes. Secondly, If you think your going to make an EA, I wish you luck because there has never been a successful EA yet to date that eventually would not get you into financial trouble. (if you know of one, good luck with that) All the tools are in front of you, Parisboy doesn't use an EA nor does Swede, because they know they do not work. Your Brain, is your Best Tool. It takes study and work, nothing is going to replace that to become successful at trading. Know Thy Enemy. Stick with it and you'll join them.
You NEVER will be the person you could be, without pressure & discipline
  • #1,566
  • Jan 28, 2020 12:37pm Jan 28, 2020 12:37pm
Quoting DiamondMiner
{quote} LvCa, First of all, what I am saying is: If you want to get more winners than losing trades go to a higher time frame. I do not know anyone that has ever consistently made money trading in 1M, 5M, 15M timeframes. Secondly, If you think your going to make an EA, I wish you luck because there has never been a successful EA yet to date that eventually would not get you into financial trouble. (if you know of one, good luck with that) All the tools are in front of you, Parisboy doesn't use an EA nor does Swede, because they know they do not...
No, I absolutely have no intention of doing any EA and I don't like them ... in 10/15 years of "trading" I have never used one.
I think you thought I wanted to make an EA and because I used the word "input" ... I used and use ''google translator'' because I don't know English very well so there may have been a writing error

As for the low tf I understood the message, I'm starting to think about the 4h tf for the entries
Thanks for the valuable advice
  • #1,567
  • Jan 28, 2020 1:04pm Jan 28, 2020 1:04pm
Quoting LvCa
{quote} No, I absolutely have no intention of doing any EA and I don't like them ... in 10/15 years of "trading" I have never used one. I think you thought I wanted to make an EA and because I used the word "input" ... I used and use ''google translator'' because I don't know English very well so there may have been a writing error As for the low tf I understood the message, I'm starting to think about the 4h tf for the entries Thanks for the valuable advice
LvCa, most members are usually here to help if you ask them. OK, I understand what you meant. We're Good
You NEVER will be the person you could be, without pressure & discipline
  • #1,568
  • Jan 28, 2020 1:22pm Jan 28, 2020 1:22pm
Quoting LvCa
{quote} No, I absolutely have no intention of doing any EA and I don't like them ... in 10/15 years of "trading" I have never used one. I think you thought I wanted to make an EA and because I used the word "input" ... I used and use ''google translator'' because I don't know English very well so there may have been a writing error As for the low tf I understood the message, I'm starting to think about the 4h tf for the entries Thanks for the valuable advice
Hope it will help
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  • #1,569
  • Jan 28, 2020 1:41pm Jan 28, 2020 1:41pm
What a goldmine this thread is. Glad I stumbled on it. Geometric charting is another universe, or so it seems to me at this point. I tried to take too much in too quickly by reading and studying the first three or four pages of this thread, but soon realised there is no short cut. I have been trading for around three years with a 6 month break after the first year and a half. I use Ichimoku and divergence. In terms of Ichimoku I look for crossovers and breakouts. However, I know that there is so much more to it than that. I'm only 61 so I have plenty of time to learn Ichimoku secrets, and the universal secrets of geometric trading. I decided to start trying out the Circumscribed Objective. It obviously worked in this example - that is of course if my circle has been drawn correctly. Could someone tell me if the left edge of the circle should be on or within Leg A, rather than to the left of it? Does being to the left of it invalidate it? Here's my pic

Diamond Miner said
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Gartley pattern must be symmetry, otherwise distorted patterns are the rode to ruin.
Gartley Patterns is where I am going to start. Can anyone recommend a Gartley Patterns book that respects that need for symmetry please?
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  • #1,570
  • Jan 28, 2020 2:33pm Jan 28, 2020 2:33pm
Thought you guys might appreciate this video. It has some time analysis involved with Elliott Wave and Fibonacci.
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Fib Traders get it right 61.8% to 78.6% of the time. NR
  • #1,571
  • Jan 28, 2020 4:40pm Jan 28, 2020 4:40pm
Quoting vik11
What a goldmine this thread is. Glad I stumbled on it. Geometric charting is another universe, or so it seems to me at this point. I tried to take too much in too quickly by reading and studying the first three or four pages of this thread, but soon realised there is no short cut. I have been trading for around three years with a 6 month break after the first year and a half. I use Ichimoku and divergence. In terms of Ichimoku I look for crossovers and breakouts. However, I know that there is so much more to it than that. I'm only 61 so I have plenty...
Vik11, read the Gartley Trading Method by Ross Beck
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Using the Circumscribed Objective the B Point is the center of the Circle and C point is the Radius. FYI when you see Harmonic patterns, if doesn't mean it qualifies as a Gartley pattern. There is a lot of BS patterns out there sold and labeled as a Gartley pattern. H.M. Gartley would turn over in his grave if he know what was being represented as a Gartley pattern.
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  • #1,572
  • Jan 28, 2020 4:59pm Jan 28, 2020 4:59pm
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  • #1,573
  • Jan 28, 2020 5:15pm Jan 28, 2020 5:15pm
I like very much Ross Beck with his quote about " the Elliott Wave obsessive compulsive disorder " (EWOCD)
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  • #1,574
  • Jan 28, 2020 5:59pm Jan 28, 2020 5:59pm
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  • #1,575
  • Edited 6:45pm Jan 28, 2020 6:23pm | Edited 6:45pm
The job that ichi does is immense. Ichi gives the guide for space and direction with one glance. Gann completes it with price and time. This potent combination enhances both their application multifold. Without either of them they fall short. Real time market application especially short intraday timeframe throws out their individual weakness. The third pillar is parisboy cyclic envelopes with an s(he has a encyclopidic thread on discussion section). Just perfect technical analysis with the combination of these 3 pillars. It reveals the VTL strong and weak territory clearly on all timeframes. This has opened up possibilities that's previously beyond us. Thank you to all the contributors and OP of this thread. Happy trading.

Ps - the last pillar is momentum strength that's outside the discussion of this thread.
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  • #1,576
  • Jan 28, 2020 6:41pm Jan 28, 2020 6:41pm
All that is a partial view and representation of Price Action

Waves,, Cycles, Gartley 222; M Wave or W Pattern it is all the same

It is much more interesting, intellectually stimulating and financially profitable to understand the big picture, how all these patterns are constructed, why they eixsts and how to use them for your trading purpose
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  • #1,577
  • Edited 10:55pm Jan 28, 2020 10:45pm | Edited 10:55pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Hope it will help {image}
Hi, actually it's not very helpful now because I still don't understand these channels but it will probably help me a lot in the future, when I'll continue reading ... thanks.

Now I'm focused on AUD / USD to see what happens:
After the daily analysis looking at the 4H TF: :

-Probable reversal, from **short** phase 1 to **long** phase 2 (input on the breaking of the trendline of 23.6 Fibonacci)
-AU is already at its lowest monthly range and has just broken it upwards
-TP : 38.2 Fibo or at the and of this microwave

PS : I noticed that in small phases (big waves) small waves 1,4,5,8 could be valid

I hope I haven't said too many bullshit, let's see what happens
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  • #1,578
  • Jan 28, 2020 10:49pm Jan 28, 2020 10:49pm
"parisboy;that is a partial view and representation of Price Action Waves,, Cycles, Gartley 222; M Wave or W Pattern it is all the same..."

Interesting quote there.

Understanding the Why and the how...to profiting.
Nothing beats that.

WZT.
"Greed takes away the life of its owners. "
  • #1,579
  • Jan 28, 2020 11:08pm Jan 28, 2020 11:08pm
Jenkins Secret Angle. A thing of beauty

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  • #1,580
  • Jan 28, 2020 11:21pm Jan 28, 2020 11:21pm
Quoting vik11
What a goldmine this thread is. Glad I stumbled on it. Geometric charting is another universe, or so it seems to me at this point. I tried to take too much in too quickly by reading and studying the first three or four pages of this thread, but soon realised there is no short cut. I have been trading for around three years with a 6 month break after the first year and a half. I use Ichimoku and divergence. In terms of Ichimoku I look for crossovers and breakouts. However, I know that there is so much more to it than that. I'm only 61 so I have plenty...
78.6 Trend Continuation Gartley [ Ross Beck ]

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