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  • #101
  • Jan 16, 2020 11:09am Jan 16, 2020 11:09am
Quoting fx4money
{quote} would be nice if pairs to trade could be chosen. dont like to trade chf, jpy and gbp
i think tou can just edit setting file.....and chose your preferred instead of all 28...
  • #102
  • Jan 16, 2020 11:14am Jan 16, 2020 11:14am
Quoting cescof
{quote} i think tou can just edit setting file.....and chose your preferred instead of all 28...
Jipp, that's it. You can even trade soy-beans if you like ;-)

Anyway, my dream would be a dashboard with integrated blessing one day...
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  • #103
  • Jan 16, 2020 11:18am Jan 16, 2020 11:18am
Quoting ursinho4711
{quote} Jipp, that's it. You can even trade soy-beans if you like ;-) Anyway, my dream would be a dashboard with integrated blessing one day...
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...9#post12706749
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  • #104
  • Jan 16, 2020 11:20am Jan 16, 2020 11:20am
Hi All,
Could someone point me in the direction of the system philosophy please. I have read the thread and have it running but would like to know more.
Regards
  • #105
  • Jan 16, 2020 11:38am Jan 16, 2020 11:38am
Quoting Spikehunter
Hi All, Could someone point me in the direction of the system philosophy please. I have read the thread and have it running but would like to know more. Regards
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=792598
That's where the heart comes from. I've already been using it though long time before joining ForexFactory...
  • #106
  • Jan 16, 2020 11:39am Jan 16, 2020 11:39am
Quoting ursinho4711
{quote} https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=792598 That's where the heart comes from. I've already been using it though long time before joining ForexFactory...
Thank you
  • #107
  • Jan 16, 2020 4:14pm Jan 16, 2020 4:14pm
Quoting ursinho4711
{quote} https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=792598 That's where the heart comes from. I've already been using it though long time before joining ForexFactory...
Do you favor one group of settings for all pairs or do you plan on eventually making things more complex?
  • #108
  • Jan 16, 2020 4:37pm Jan 16, 2020 4:37pm
Quoting richard96816
{quote} Do you favor one group of settings for all pairs or do you plan on eventually making things more complex?
Hi Richard! No, on-size-fits all was my plan. I know that it is difficult to find out and can be a little bit dangerous as Blessing has this Martingale-like style (no, it is not real Martingale), depending on the multiplier. I am just experiencing this on GBPJPY ;-)
If it was too complex, it would be like single Blessings on separate charts and no gain. My opinion... you probably thought of an individual settings-array for each pair to trade?
The dashboards that I know use one settings for all pairs. Do you have an example for a more complex one?
Hm... hm... I mean, that would REALLY be cool to click on a pair in a dashboard and alter the setting individually. hm hm hm... I need some more weeks of holiday...
  • #109
  • Jan 16, 2020 5:00pm Jan 16, 2020 5:00pm
@Richard
Individual settings for each pair:
I was thinking while doing the laundry... from the programming aspect it is not that difficult, thanks to the struct for each pair to trade. The question is, which parameters should be set individually? All?
As I write this, I am thinking of loading parameter files for single pairs. Now I am really on a trip...
  • #110
  • Jan 16, 2020 5:06pm Jan 16, 2020 5:06pm
Quoting ursinho4711
@Richard Individual settings for each pair: I was thinking while doing the laundry... from the programming aspect it is not that difficult, thanks to the struct for each pair to trade. The question is, which parameters should be set individually? All? As I write this, I am thinking of loading parameter files for single pairs. Now I am really on a trip...
certainly will be best for each pair to have it own setting since the average daily range is different for most pairs.
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  • #111
  • Jan 16, 2020 5:44pm Jan 16, 2020 5:44pm
I've tested quite a few multi-pair EAs. Many start out with very impressive results and then degrade into large draw downs and slow trading after a while or other problems.

Here's an example:
BGNBGN832CL832CL
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Symbol Trdes Win%   Profit  P/day ProfFac STime Etime T/Day EA
GBPAUD    7  100%   181.46   5.13    --    9/09 10/15  0.2  v3w     +++++++
GBPCHF    6  100%   198.30   5.05    --    9/06 10/15  0.2  v3w     ++++++
GBPCAD   10  100%   372.94   5.02    --    9/05 11/18  0.1  v3w     ++++++++++
GBPJPY    4  100%   200.81   2.92    --    9/04 11/12  0.1  v3w     ++++
GBPUSD    5  100%   148.29   2.46    --    9/05 11/04  0.1  v3w     +++++
AUDCAD    2  100%    15.15   1.64    --    9/04  9/13  0.2  v3w     ++
EURCAD    2  100%    15.07   1.61    --    9/04  9/13  0.2  v3w     ++
USDCAD    6   83%   164.32   1.49  50.49   9/12 12/31  0.1  v3w     ++-+++
CADJPY    5  100%    54.63   1.03    --    9/05 10/27  0.1  v3w     +++++
USDCHF    2  100%   108.92   1.00    --    9/13 12/31  0.0  v3w     ++
NZDJPY    6  100%   102.03   0.89    --    9/03 12/27  0.1  v3w     ++++++
AUDJPY    5  100%   100.23   0.88    --    9/03 12/26  0.0  v3w     +++++
CHFJPY    6  100%    86.56   0.86    --    9/04 12/13  0.1  v3w     ++++++
AUDCHF    1  100%     6.31   0.85    --    9/06  9/13  0.1  v3w     +
EURGBP    2  100%    43.23   0.79    --    9/05 10/29  0.0  v3w     ++
EURCHF    1  100%     4.65   0.63    --    9/06  9/13  0.1  v3w     +
EURJPY    3  100%    67.55   0.62    --    9/04 12/23  0.0  v3w     +++
USDJPY    3  100%    27.48   0.35    --    9/04 11/21  0.0  v3w     +++
NZDUSD    2  100%    33.12   0.25    --    9/03  1/15  0.0  v3w     ++
AUDUSD    3  100%    24.96   0.19    --    9/04  1/16  0.0  v3w     +++
CADCHF    1    0%    -0.54  -0.54   0.00  10/08 10/08  1.0  v3w     -
Total    82        1955.47  33.12
Wonderful win rate. But it required a $50K account! I've seen others that rack up amazing profits at first, only to stop trading for months with equity tied up in wandering trades.

If you could trade five or ten pairs with optimized parameters for each, while profiting from multi-pair basket logic too, you might outperform all the others. Even if you relied on a single genetic optimization pass for each pair I think you could do very well.

Fill a folder (directory) with set files and have the EA access them by name creating the pair list and parameters from the files it finds. After reading a file it could be moved to an archive folder. New files appearing in the primary folder would cause old parameters to be overwritten or new pairs to be added.

(Or even build in auto-optimization, but that's a whole new batch of craziness.) :-)

Trading 28 pairs, especially with the same parameters for each will eventually require a large account or produce unacceptable losses.
  • #112
  • Jan 16, 2020 6:12pm Jan 16, 2020 6:12pm
Quoting richard96816
I've tested quite a few multi-pair EAs. Many start out with very impressive results and then degrade into large draw downs and slow trading after a while or other problems. Here's an example: BGNBGN832CL832CL Symbol Trdes Win% Profit P/day ProfFac STime Etime T/Day EA GBPAUD 7 100% 181.46 5.13 -- 9/09 10/15 0.2 v3w +++++++ GBPCHF 6 100% 198.30 5.05 -- 9/06 10/15 0.2 v3w ++++++ GBPCAD 10 100% 372.94 5.02 -- 9/05 11/18 0.1 v3w ++++++++++ GBPJPY 4 100% 200.81 2.92 -- 9/04 11/12 0.1 v3w ++++ GBPUSD 5 100% 148.29 2.46 -- 9/05 11/04 0.1 v3w +++++ AUDCAD...

trading dangerously is not recommended when trading with real hard earned money.

play with demo money and learn how Blessing3 works in all market conditions and master how B3 works and tame this monster and take it on your daily stroll in the forex park .. make some money.
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  • #113
  • Edited 7:02pm Jan 16, 2020 6:30pm | Edited 7:02pm
Quoting richard96816
added. (Or even build in auto-optimization, but that's a whole new batch of craziness.) :-) Trading 28 pairs, especially with the same parameters for each will eventually require a large account or produce unacceptable losses.
nice post thanks for the info. i've cut my second demo down to 6-10 pairs that i filter out of the all-pairs EA (the ones it seems to be trading well) .

so far this week the all_pairs is up about 4% but it's still holding the EUR/CAD long and a g/j short (2% DD), wonder what it will do.
grist for the mill
  • #114
  • Jan 16, 2020 7:36pm Jan 16, 2020 7:36pm
Quoting JackJones
g/j short (2% DD), wonder what it will do.
Mine is at the third stage (0.01 / 0.03 / 0.09) and waiting to sell more 0.27 lots... the last stage. Would have done something similar manually ;-)

@all
thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas in this thread. I really appreciate it.
  • #115
  • Jan 17, 2020 4:00am Jan 17, 2020 4:00am
Quoting JackJones
but it's still holding the EUR/CAD long and a g/j short (2% DD), wonder what it will do.
Hehe, went well. Though I did not sleep much, one eye was with the dashboard. DD went up to -5.65%. Okay, nothing to become nervous about, but as the EA is still in a pre-beta version, I needed to take care of my testing live account. I mean, it is real money. Not too much, but real..
(Blessing)Slippage helped in the gbpaud, took some of the win in the gbpjpy. But so what: this was the only basket that closed with a small minus. All others green and over the testing time, very green in the big basket ;-)
Anyway I will reduce the set of pairs, maybe take out gbp and jpy. They make me nervous...
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  • #116
  • Jan 17, 2020 4:13am Jan 17, 2020 4:13am
Quoting ursinho4711
{quote} Hehe, went well. Though I did not sleep much, one eye was with the dashboard. DD went up to -5.65%. Okay, nothing to become nervous about, but as the EA is still in a pre-beta version, I needed to take care of my testing live account. I mean, it is real money. Not too much, but real.. (Blessing)Slippage helped in the gbpaud, took some of the win in the gbpjpy. But so what: this was the only basket that closed with a small minus. All others green and over the testing time, very green in the big basket ;-) Anyway I will reduce the set of pairs,...
Curious, how much did you use for your live account? What would be a nice minimum to use?
  • #117
  • Jan 17, 2020 4:17am Jan 17, 2020 4:17am
Quoting procmail
Curious, how much did you use for your live account?
2000€
But, as Richard already stated, it is not enough if you trade with 28 pairs. As I was watching the EA all the time, I stopped new trades and even closed some green ones manually, to get more margin in case the gbpjpy would need the 0.27 lots. It did not need though, but it was close...
  • #118
  • Jan 17, 2020 4:39am Jan 17, 2020 4:39am
Quoting procmail
What would be a nice minimum to use?
Depends on your settings ;-) Remember to have enough free margin if things get tough. If the EA cannot open bigger trades, then the system is worthless.
See the example gbpaud in my last screenshot: the EA had a pending order sell limit with 0.09 lots to help the other trades in DD. At 11:20:03 the limit was reached, ten minutes later the basket closed with a win ;-)
The gbpjpy was even worse, but came back without needing help from the 0.27 lots.

Back to your question: I think not less than 500USD for each pair to trade is the minimum in a real and serious setup. What do the others think?
  • #119
  • Jan 17, 2020 5:58am Jan 17, 2020 5:58am
Quoting ursinho4711
{quote} 2000€ But, as Richard already stated, it is not enough if you trade with 28 pairs. As I was watching the EA all the time, I stopped new trades and even closed some green ones manually, to get more margin in case the gbpjpy would need the 0.27 lots. It did not need though, but it was close...
Hmmm, I see. Maybe I should remove some volatile pairs like GBPJPY and also CHF pairs while testing on a small live account.

How do you handle weekends? Do you close them all manually on friday or just let them be?
  • #120
  • Jan 17, 2020 6:18am Jan 17, 2020 6:18am
i might try close risky pairs before the weekend if they are just floating for a small loss.

the demo my all-pairs EA seems to have handled the week well.

the second demo i have been filtering and playing with to 'best traded' pairs and it seems to have misshandled eur/cad and decided it wanted to sell 20 mlots of e/u, so not sure if that was me messing with it or what, but interesting to see.

the two demos are with two different brokers so it seems it traded and is also holding some pairs the other broker account never opened.. so i will look at those over the weekend.

might be to do with the computer rebooting one night or maybe a lost internet connection, not sure ?? have not run EAs for many years
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