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  • Oct 25, 2006 7:29pm Oct 25, 2006 7:29pm
  •  accrete
  • Joined Jan 2006 | Status: Pips Ahoy! | 1,130 Posts
Quoting aha
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...This is especially true for those systems that requires to pinpoint entry points...
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Thanks for the reply Aha; spot on. . . and nice work on your indicators and EAs !

For my entry style on my manual trading i have used the MA signal line cross only as a heads up to come to the charts and rarely did i enter a trade based soely on an indicator's indication : ) Though in the two shots in my image i sure could have botched things up if my manual account had been off the IBFX feed instead of Alpari. Though as you state, next trade it could go the other way and it could all be a wash and not make a hoot of difference in the long run!

: ) Thom
 
 
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  • Oct 26, 2006 3:51am Oct 26, 2006 3:51am
  •  phoenix
  • | Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 53 Posts
i don't think we should jump the gun without testing. it may be the case that intersection is necessary in the forex market.

the demarks point out that intersection wasn't necessary until 10 years ago. it was used to prevent an extreme trend which would continue due to bad news, i.e. bankruptcy or acquisition, from generating a "false" reversal signal.

although "demark on day trading options" is the most recent book it's still 7 years old (published 1999). i'd use the more recently published articles and\or the bloomberg movie as guidelines on how to trade using TD sequential or TD combo.

the articles mention that the traders trade the "nine's" with perfection, i.e. setup of TD sequential but having a setup qualifier where bar 8 or 9 low has to be lower than bar 6 and 7 for perfected buy setup. vice versa for a sell

they also trade the "thirteen's" with perfection (bar 13 low must be lower than bar 8 close for a buy setup. vice versa for sell setup). the 13 count starts immediately after the nine count. no intersection is mentioned in the article.

In the bloomberg movie demark mentions trading the nine's and thirteen's. He also--in passing-- mentions TD combo as being more accurate than TD sequential.

i will be reading up on TD combo soon and will let you know more about it. i believe it has no intersection criteria, but has a more stringent countdown criteria.

i just go through the setup and intersection sections for TD sequential in the book.


phoenix





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Ok, then we should use TD Combo, or just TD Setup without countdown
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Attached File(s)
File Type: pdf demark.pdf   204 KB | 754 downloads
 
 
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  • Oct 26, 2006 3:55am Oct 26, 2006 3:55am
  •  phoenix
  • | Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 53 Posts
the demarks introduced intersection 10 years ago into their analyses of stock and stock option market. not others. things may have changed for the others, as such we should test the forex market with and without intersection.

the attached article above is one of the articles i reference. it's posted on another thread (maybe even this one), but i can't recall where. take a look on it for reference

to AHA and the rest of the gang--great work on the indicators thus far. AHA i reallly like your price action indicator. it's definitely very useful

phoenix


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i don't think we should jump the gun without testing. it may be the case that intersection is necessary in the forex market.

the demarks point out that intersection wasn't necessary until 10 years ago. it was used to prevent an extreme trend which would continue due to bad news, i.e. bankruptcy or acquisition, from generating a "false" reversal signal.

although "demark on day trading options" is the most recent book it's still 7 years old (published 1999). i'd use the more recently published articles and\or the bloomberg movie as guidelines on how to trade using TD sequential or TD combo.

the articles mention that the traders trade the "nine's" with perfection, i.e. setup of TD sequential but having a setup qualifier where bar 8 or 9 low has to be lower than bar 6 and 7 for perfected buy setup. vice versa for a sell

they also trade the "thirteen's" with perfection (bar 13 low must be lower than bar 8 close for a buy setup. vice versa for sell setup). the 13 count starts immediately after the nine count. no intersection is mentioned in the article.

In the bloomberg movie demark mentions trading the nine's and thirteen's. He also--in passing-- mentions TD combo as being more accurate than TD sequential.

i will be reading up on TD combo soon and will let you know more about it. i believe it has no intersection criteria, but has a more stringent countdown criteria.

i just go through the setup and intersection sections for TD sequential in the book.


phoenix
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  • Oct 26, 2006 11:07am Oct 26, 2006 11:07am
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
Hi guys,

Orange PM me about his system here:

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...61&postcount=1

I think it's really smart and interesting. Does anyone get the time to make an EA for it? It should be less than 30 minutes.

Here is what I think about the input parameters:

Int EntryOffset: the entry point away from the high/low of previous day
Int HardSL: the initial stop loss
Bool Trailing
Int TrailingSL:

That's it. Any comments are welcomed.

aha
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  • Oct 26, 2006 11:09am Oct 26, 2006 11:09am
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
Thanks for the comment, Phoenix.

TD-Combo is really atractive to me now. If nobody is doing it, I will start working on that.


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i don't think we should jump the gun without testing. it may be the case that intersection is necessary in the forex market.

the demarks point out that intersection wasn't necessary until 10 years ago. it was used to prevent an extreme trend which would continue due to bad news, i.e. bankruptcy or acquisition, from generating a "false" reversal signal.

although "demark on day trading options" is the most recent book it's still 7 years old (published 1999). i'd use the more recently published articles and\or the bloomberg movie as guidelines on how to trade using TD sequential or TD combo.

the articles mention that the traders trade the "nine's" with perfection, i.e. setup of TD sequential but having a setup qualifier where bar 8 or 9 low has to be lower than bar 6 and 7 for perfected buy setup. vice versa for a sell

they also trade the "thirteen's" with perfection (bar 13 low must be lower than bar 8 close for a buy setup. vice versa for sell setup). the 13 count starts immediately after the nine count. no intersection is mentioned in the article.

In the bloomberg movie demark mentions trading the nine's and thirteen's. He also--in passing-- mentions TD combo as being more accurate than TD sequential.

i will be reading up on TD combo soon and will let you know more about it. i believe it has no intersection criteria, but has a more stringent countdown criteria.

i just go through the setup and intersection sections for TD sequential in the book.


phoenix
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  • Post #426
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  • Oct 26, 2006 11:21am Oct 26, 2006 11:21am
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
At the last trend reversal point (bear to bull) I did not pay attention to what TD-SEQ has to say and lost some pips on it. On hindsight everything line up nicely. Man! I gotta give TD-SEQ more trusts.
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  • Oct 26, 2006 11:25am Oct 26, 2006 11:25am
  •  aha
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Look the 1H chart, was it crying out loud for reversal (bear to bull)?
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  • Post #428
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  • Oct 26, 2006 11:37am Oct 26, 2006 11:37am
  •  ellipses
  • | Joined Jul 2006 | Status: master your setup, master your self | 248 Posts
Hi Aha,

I have started testing out ur TD combo 2 days back(not sure if its the updated one : ) after folloing ur thread from mouteki to here (really like the mouteki/demark system).

I agree it looks good although still need some tweaking...currently i using it with price action to justify a trade.

Oh i prefer to use it on a 4H and daily charts...less noise.

cheers! Great WORK, thanks for sharing!
 
 
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  • Oct 26, 2006 11:43am Oct 26, 2006 11:43am
  •  GP2X
  • | Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 66 Posts
The problem is, I haven't found any detail rules about TD Combo, I thought it just starts the countdown from the first bar without any intersection. But as Phoenix said, there are more rules. Please go ahead and do it. I am busy working on an EA which could mirror the transanctions so I can duplicate from a managed account.
Quoting aha
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Thanks for the comment, Phoenix.

TD-Combo is really atractive to me now. If nobody is doing it, I will start working on that.
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  • Post #430
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  • Oct 26, 2006 12:03pm Oct 26, 2006 12:03pm
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
I started a new thread for discussion TD-SEQ and TD-COMBO (future) signals. I guess it's not a good idea to post charts and discuss signals here.

http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...ead.php?t=9509

You guys could update your latest version of TD-Seq indicator over there. But please don't share the source code, just in case big fishes in the market will hack the code and chase our stops.

In this thread we will mainly discuss things regarding the development ideas.
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  • Oct 26, 2006 2:46pm Oct 26, 2006 2:46pm
  •  hans_gregor
  • | Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 99 Posts
Quoting aha
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Thanks for the comment, Phoenix.

TD-Combo is really atractive to me now. If nobody is doing it, I will start working on that.
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if you need documentation, please tell me what you have.
ok?
The trend isyour friend untilis about to end...
 
 
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  • Oct 26, 2006 8:42pm Oct 26, 2006 8:42pm
  •  glenn5t
  • | Joined Aug 2006 | Status: Fund Manager | 535 Posts
I have been following your thread and looking at the indicators.and You guys are doing a great job..


Can I ask a question.

would it be possible to add the stop loss infomation as it appears in Mr Demarks book to the charts as a automatic calculation, appearing with the breakout information in the top of the sreen.

again well done and thanks for the great work your doing.
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2006 11:46am Oct 30, 2006 11:46am
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
I believe Clam has a version does that. I don't have a plan to implement that in near future because I use the signal more like a reminder or confirmation of trend reversal, don't trade the signal directly.



Quoting glenn5t
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I have been following your thread and looking at the indicators.and You guys are doing a great job..


Can I ask a question.

would it be possible to add the stop loss infomation as it appears in Mr Demarks book to the charts as a automatic calculation, appearing with the breakout information in the top of the sreen.

again well done and thanks for the great work your doing.
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  • Oct 30, 2006 11:52am Oct 30, 2006 11:52am
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
Here is the TD-Combo 0.1. Please post the bug report in this thread and performance test result in the "TD-SEQ and TD-Combo signal watcher" thread.

Thanks.
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  • Oct 30, 2006 2:11pm Oct 30, 2006 2:11pm
  •  phoenix
  • | Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 53 Posts
which method of TD combo countdown do you use?

demark states two methods.

i checked your inputs to see if you had an option to choose between the two methods but you don't (it would be good if you can include this).
I tried checking your code but it seems like you've locked it.
(it's ok--i'll leave the coding to the gurus . it'll probably take 5 times as long for me to go through it compared to you guys).

he has a stringent countdown method and lenient one.

the lenient is similar to the stringent countdown method except that on candles 11, 12, 13, all one needs is a closing price for lower than the previous count's to be considered a valid count. vice-versa on the sell countdown.

phoenix

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Here is the TD-Combo 0.1. Please post the bug report in this thread and performance test result in the "TD-SEQ and TD-Combo signal watcher" thread.

Thanks.
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  • Post #436
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  • Oct 30, 2006 2:17pm Oct 30, 2006 2:17pm
  •  Wallboroff
  • | Joined Sep 2006 | Status: Member | 268 Posts
hi, can anyone help me programming an EA with 5EMA und 12EMA.

mean if 5 ist above 12 buy and if 5 is under 12 sell and automatically close the first buy position. with 0.1 lots.

thanks, i would really appreciate it if somone could help me out.
 
 
  • Post #437
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  • Oct 30, 2006 5:52pm Oct 30, 2006 5:52pm
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
I did that already and it was not profitable.



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hi, can anyone help me programming an EA with 5EMA und 12EMA.

mean if 5 ist above 12 buy and if 5 is under 12 sell and automatically close the first buy position. with 0.1 lots.

thanks, i would really appreciate it if somone could help me out.
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  • Post #438
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  • Oct 30, 2006 5:55pm Oct 30, 2006 5:55pm
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
I implemented version 2, which TD said in his book that is better. And I am not planning to implement version 1 soon (or ever).



Quoting phoenix
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which method of TD combo countdown do you use?

demark states two methods.

i checked your inputs to see if you had an option to choose between the two methods but you don't (it would be good if you can include this).
I tried checking your code but it seems like you've locked it.
(it's ok--i'll leave the coding to the gurus . it'll probably take 5 times as long for me to go through it compared to you guys).

he has a stringent countdown method and lenient one.

the lenient is similar to the stringent countdown method except that on candles 11, 12, 13, all one needs is a closing price for lower than the previous count's to be considered a valid count. vice-versa on the sell countdown.

phoenix
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  • Post #439
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  • Oct 30, 2006 11:11pm Oct 30, 2006 11:11pm
  •  et_phonehome_2
  • | Joined May 2006 | Status: Member | 809 Posts
AHA

Which is the latest version of the TD Seq should we be using, there were too many versions by different coders?

Thanks...
 
 
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  • Oct 30, 2006 11:34pm Oct 30, 2006 11:34pm
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
http://www.forexfactory.com/forexfor...?t=9509&page=1

aha

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AHA

Which is the latest version of the TD Seq should we be using, there were too many versions by different coders?

Thanks...
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