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  • #661
  • Jan 2, 2020 10:10am Jan 2, 2020 10:10am
Thanks Igrok, and please, keep this thread alive (it's very interesting), and ignore "the trolls".
  • #662
  • Jan 2, 2020 10:15am Jan 2, 2020 10:15am
Quoting kuroro001
{quote} He never made me believe anything, don't worry I just thought on your post 607 you advised to short with stops at highs. Because you are looking at a move down on the DOW. Question now, at which point it will validate the short move?
that was intended for the future and not for the past as I posted it already on the 1-st of January... that idiot just didn't get the point... the idea is to open a position in the direction of the MMM when it becomes down despite today is the very first day of the month and of the year as well... so it happened just now and a short position can already be taken with reasonable stops right above today's high as MMD, MMM and MMY are down... only MMW is up but the week's range is already substantial...
  • #663
  • Jan 2, 2020 10:32am Jan 2, 2020 10:32am
Quoting kuroro001
We have a record of net long from asset managers. Will they clear their massive longs? it looks overextended, i wish a correction and buy lower
an advise for you is not to try and short this... if market. corrects let it correct and jump back in the band wagon.
keep your gun powder dry instead of being stuck short.

also COT reports are references at best. becaue it only looks at futures.... theres a much larger segment in cash equities which is a much larger and much more representative world.

one could argue that the extreme long from asset managers you see requires the Dow to head higher to attract shorts and eventually get capitulated by the upmove

with regards to Igrok, you will see him constantly moving his goal posts higher and higher. and who knows maybe by the time hes hes right about a correction the Dow would probably be at 35k who knows....

another one hits the fan betting against US equities...
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/russell-clark-horseman-hedge-fund-losses-bets-against-2019-market-2020-1-1028791743?utm_content=buffer8d24f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer-bi
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #664
  • Jan 2, 2020 10:45am Jan 2, 2020 10:45am
Quoting Jordi
Thanks Igrok, and please, keep this thread alive (it's very interesting), and ignore "the trolls".


don't you worry... I used to eat those bastards for breakfast by dozens...
  • #665
  • Jan 2, 2020 10:47am Jan 2, 2020 10:47am
Quoting Jordi
Thanks Igrok, and please, keep this thread alive (it's very interesting), and ignore "the trolls".


don't you worry... I used to eat those bastards for breakfast by dozens... will be around for as long as I have enough time for it...
  • #666
  • Edited 12:28pm Jan 2, 2020 12:15pm | Edited 12:28pm
Quoting Igrok
{quote} I've got nothing to discuss with a "baby K" from HK... really... only Dr. Jack Kevorkian could have helped you in such a case...
You know, you started out this thread with your idea/opinion on the market. Not everyone agreed nor disagreed, but you still had an air of professionalism in your postings. But since you and Jupiter Peak have started feeding off each other, you both have lowered yourself to a point of childish name calling and insults. Now, instead of an authority on the specific TA, you just seem like someone that is so vain they throw a temper tantrum when someone has the 'audacity" to disagree with them.

Very hard to give credence to someone acting that way no matter how many books they have written.....
  • #667
  • Edited 1:19pm Jan 2, 2020 12:37pm | Edited 1:19pm
Quoting moneymaker2
{quote} You know, you started out this thread with your idea/opinion on the market. Not everyone agreed nor disagreed, but you still had an air of professionalism in your postings. But since you and Jupiter Peak have started feeding off each other, you both have lowered yourself to a point of childish name calling and insults. Now, instead of an authority on the specific TA, you just seem like someone that is so vain they throws a temper tantrum when someone has the 'audacity" to disagree with them. Very hard to give credence to someone acting that...

that's fine... I have the right to have some fun also... trading is an extremely boring business indeed...

besides I'm not interested in becoming some sort of an "authority" in here... I'm not going to convince anyone in anything... quite the opposite... there is no point in it for me... markets are my hunting ground and all of you are my pray... directly or indirectly... obviously I make my profits on disagreement with the others... that's what I do for a living... therefore the main purpose of this particular thread is to check out my main general concept... I just would like to know whether the lemmings are aware of the incoming danger or not... and what would be "the point of no return" at which they start drowning themselves in masses...
  • #668
  • Jan 2, 2020 2:57pm Jan 2, 2020 2:57pm
What MMM, MMD, MMY stand for?
Thank you
Quoting Igrok
{quote} that was intended for the future and not for the past as I posted it already on the 1-st of January... that idiot just didn't get the point... the idea is to open a position in the direction of the MMM when it becomes down despite today is the very first day of the month and of the year as well... so it happened just now and a short position can already be taken with reasonable stops right above today's high as MMD, MMM and MMY are down... only MMW is up but the week's range is already substantial...
  • #669
  • Jan 2, 2020 3:07pm Jan 2, 2020 3:07pm
Quoting marcb
What MMM, MMD, MMY stand for? Thank you {quote}
direction of the Main Move of Day, Week, Month and Year...
  • #670
  • Jan 2, 2020 3:09pm Jan 2, 2020 3:09pm
Quoting Igrok
{quote} direction of the Main Move of Day, Week, Month and Year...
How do you compute such a thing?
  • #671
  • Jan 2, 2020 3:09pm Jan 2, 2020 3:09pm
Quoting Igrok
{quote} that's fine... I have the right to have some fun also... trading is an extremely boring business indeed... besides I'm not interested in becoming some sort of an "authority" in here... I'm not going to convince anyone in anything... quite the opposite... there is no point in it for me... markets are my hunting ground and all of you are my pray... directly or indirectly... obviously I make my profits on disagreement with the others... that's what I do for a living... therefore the main purpose of this particular thread is to check...
Well you certainly need to have fun somehow because you’re not making profit trying to short equities. LMAO

Im out
  • #672
  • Jan 2, 2020 3:18pm Jan 2, 2020 3:18pm
Quoting Neogenesis
{quote} Well you certainly need to have fun somehow because you’re not making profit trying to short equities. LMAO Im out
that's a real loss for me and everyone else around.... please, stay with us!!!... we need you badly in the new year in this particular thread!!!....
  • #673
  • Jan 2, 2020 3:22pm Jan 2, 2020 3:22pm
Quoting marcb
{quote} How do you compute such a thing?
that's easy... if the low of a particular time period was formed before the high then the MM is up... if the top was formed before the bottom then the MM is down... it is directly connected to the ATR concept... which is Average Trading Range...
  • #674
  • Jan 2, 2020 3:30pm Jan 2, 2020 3:30pm
Actually, one final post before I leave. I feel there’s a responsibility to give a balanced view:

Buy dips
Move your SL to break even/small profit - sleep easy
Keep an eye on retail positioning, when retail are net long US indices, run for the hills
Reduce your risk, this market will correct soon. This isn’t a reason to stay out of the market, you can win your next 10 trades and lose 1. With good risk management you walk away profitable
Ride the trend, don’t wait for a trend to validate your bias
Equities markets are driven by fundamentals and sentiment. Right now there’s no bad news, investors are long, retail are shaking and shivering with their nervous shorts providing liquidity to the aforementioned = market continues long

And finally, don’t be rude to one another. The macho behaviours on here are shameful. We are all students trying to benefit from knowledge. You are always a student!
  • #675
  • Jan 2, 2020 3:36pm Jan 2, 2020 3:36pm
Quoting Neogenesis
Actually, one final post before I leave.
there is a very old Russian joke (not meaning to offend anyone):
- do you know the difference between an Englishman and a Jew?...
- what's that?...
- an Englishman leaves without saying "good bye"...
- what about a Jew?...
- a Jew says "good bye" and stays...
  • #676
  • Jan 2, 2020 3:59pm Jan 2, 2020 3:59pm
Quoting moneymaker2
{quote} You know, you started out this thread with your idea/opinion on the market. Not everyone agreed nor disagreed, but you still had an air of professionalism in your postings. But since you and Jupiter Peak have started feeding off each other, you both have lowered yourself to a point of childish name calling and insults. Now, instead of an authority on the specific TA, you just seem like someone that is so vain they throw a temper tantrum when someone has the 'audacity" to disagree with them. Very hard to give credence to someone acting that...
oh wow!

Well I don’t go to other people’s homes and start offending and disrespecting the owner of the house!

If you have that habit, I can only feel sorry for you.

A couple of idiots wantedto troll, bash and try to humiliate people at first. We were not the ones being disrespectful to ANYBODY.

Got it pal? I’ll say it again: A couple of morons started bashing and trolling! Not us.

Now don’t start giving me te BS that WE started name calling!

If you don’t want to fight, keep you shat together.

Likewise, if you want to fight, be ready to “die” in the ring or learn how to pick your fights.

cappice?
  • #677
  • Jan 2, 2020 4:13pm Jan 2, 2020 4:13pm
Quoting Neogenesis
Actually, one final post before I leave. I feel there’s a responsibility to give a balanced view: Buy dips Move your SL to break even/small profit - sleep easy Keep an eye on retail positioning, when retail are net long US indices, run for the hills Reduce your risk, this market will correct soon. This isn’t a reason to stay out of the market, you can win your next 10 trades and lose 1. With good risk management you walk away profitable Ride the trend, don’t wait for a trend to validate your bias Equities markets are driven by fundamentals and sentiment....

And yet people insist in trolling, bashing, acting as experts and superior, humiliation.

I call them keyboard warriors or geniuses of the lost dimension.

Read the thread from the beginning and you shall see dispicable behavior from two members against the thread starter.

The funny thing is that they have not presented their ideas/studies/books/ systems/ trading levels or any other piece of content for the general public scrutiny.

Now I find it very convenient to attack people from the safety of nowhere.

I would love to be able to “vet” their own original ideas.

The other important thing is that even if the thread starter is wrong/right or if you agree/disagree with his ideas, at least show respect.

I give that these morons don’t have a light of their own. They feed of other people.
  • #678
  • Jan 2, 2020 4:24pm Jan 2, 2020 4:24pm
Quoting jupiter_peak
The funny thing is that they have not presented their ideas/studies/books/ systems/ trading levels or any other piece of content for the general public scrutiny. I would love to be able to “vet” their own original ideas.
I think we no longer need their views of any kind in any form... they have already played their roles and some more or less important info has been received... though it's a pity that only those few morons had given their views in regards to their future market expectations, which I actually like a lot... now I would rather prefer to hear opinions similar to theirs but from someone smarter and more experienced just to make sure that I'm on the right track...
  • #679
  • Jan 2, 2020 4:29pm Jan 2, 2020 4:29pm
Quoting Igrok
{quote} I think we no longer need their views of any kind in any form... they have already played their roles and some more or less important info has been received... though it's a pity that only those few morons had given their views in regards to their future market expectations, which I actually like a lot... now I would rather prefer to hear opinions similar to theirs but from someone smarter and more experienced just to make sure that I'm on the right track...
Meanwhile, I shorted the Nikkei just a few pips below last year’s high with stops above 2018’s high.

This one has the potential to be epic.
  • #680
  • Jan 2, 2020 4:33pm Jan 2, 2020 4:33pm
Quoting Igrok
{quote} I think we no longer need their views of any kind in any form... they have already played their roles and some more or less important info has been received... though it's a pity that only those few morons had given their views in regards to their future market expectations, which I actually like a lot... now I would rather prefer to hear opinions similar to theirs but from someone smarter and more experienced just to make sure that I'm on the right track...
a month ago you said you were about to meet up with power people, to discuss whats incoming, did you short every market since then ? because its just making new high as healthy as I said it was to just never short that
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