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  • #561
  • Dec 31, 2019 10:30pm Dec 31, 2019 10:30pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} The challenge thread is in the "trading journals" section. It is called "Challenge thread to Jupiter Peak" I too have a family and children and a grand child. I've been a nurse practitioner since 1992 but a nurse since 1987. As an investor I've been investing since I became a nurse. My daughter is first year college and my grand son will be starting 5th grade. Recently my elderly father moved in with my wife and I and we are taking care of him. So I've provided just a little about me and my family to counter your defamatory statements. I...
Don’t include me in you delusions.

Very simple: it’s not about me. It’s all about you. It’s you versus the public scrutiny.

We all want to see your ideas/studies/trades, whatever. Including me and Igrok.

You are the one judging people. Time to stop hiding.

Let’s see it. Can we see it tonight/today.

Yes or no? It’s time to put up or shut up.

Well, what’s going to be? Put up? Shut up?
  • #562
  • Dec 31, 2019 10:40pm Dec 31, 2019 10:40pm
Quoting jupiter_peak
{quote} Don’t include me in you delusions. Very simple: it’s not about me. It’s all about you. It’s you versus the public scrutiny. We all want to see your ideas/studies/trades, whatever. Including me and Igrok. You are the one judging people. Time to stop hiding. Let’s see it. Can we see it tonight/today. Yes or no? It’s time to put up or shut up. Well, what’s going to be? Put up? Shut up?
I think you are a scared boy, hiding under the stone.

Let’s see it hot-shot. We all want to see how you “ace” the market.

Listen Robin Hood, if you are a professional basketball player and Michael Jordan judges you, that’s one thing.

If a nobody judges you, that’s a different story.

Right now you are a NOBODY.

Here is your chance to prove that you are closer to MJ than you are to a nobody.

We, the public, are waiting for your “show”.

Either put up or shit the fack up.
  • #563
  • Dec 31, 2019 10:41pm Dec 31, 2019 10:41pm
Quoting jupiter_peak
{quote} Don’t include me in you delusions. Very simple: it’s not about me. It’s all about you. It’s you versus the public scrutiny. We all want to see your ideas/studies/trades, whatever. Including me and Igrok. You are the one judging people. Time to stop hiding. Let’s see it. Can we see it tonight/today. Yes or no? It’s time to put up or shut up. Well, what’s going to be? Put up? Shut up?
A coward refuses a challenge. I've put up. Igrok deserves all the criticism and judgement he's gotten. But I can't say he's a coward. I CAN say that about you. Everyone now sees you have declined the challenge. Your a wimp.
  • #564
  • Edited Jan 1, 2020 12:14am Dec 31, 2019 10:45pm | Edited Jan 1, 2020 12:14am
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} A coward refuses a challenge. I've put up. Igrok deserves all the criticism and judgement he's gotten. But I can't say he's a coward. I CAN say that about you. Everyone now sees you have declined the challenge. Your a wimp.
Bla, bla, bla.

I will most certainly miss my night of sleep because royal highness here thinks I am a coward. Lol.

same childish behavior as before. Predictable.

LOL.

You are a fraud. BIG FRAUD.

Go to bed little girl.

Robin Hood here loves to criticize others while not committing to exposing her ideas.

That’s so convenient.
Now I am the one to “blame”?

What are you afraid of?

Ok. Ok. OK! You are soooo MUCH better than I am. Heck, you are better than everybody else here. Satisfied now? I don’t have a self affirmation needs you cry for like a little kid.

Now, can we FINALLY see your ideas/studies/trades/results/money managed for God’s sake? At last, once and for all?

Please? We all want to learn from “The Master” Robin Hood herself Royal Highness. Please, your servants beg you.
  • #565
  • Edited 11:34pm Dec 31, 2019 11:09pm | Edited 11:34pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} A coward refuses a challenge. I've put up. Igrok deserves all the criticism and judgement he's gotten. But I can't say he's a coward. I CAN say that about you. Everyone now sees you have declined the challenge. Your a wimp.
Robin Hood Royal Highness,

I have created a thread just for you to publicly share your ideas/views/trades/systems/studies or whatever makes you as feel as “confident” as you are.

Here is the link:https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12682970#post12682970

Please, your royal highness, enlighten us.

Show everything you got.

We are all anxious learn from you.

Are you up for it or will you bitch out as usual?
  • #566
  • Dec 31, 2019 11:31pm Dec 31, 2019 11:31pm
Quoting jupiter_peak
{quote} Besides, I didn’t see Igrok trying to sell his services here.
Actually he made references to his books I believe in this thread on several occasions. I would imagine that should require disclosure as a Commercial Member, etc.
Small disciplines repeated with consistency lead to great achievements.
  • #567
  • Edited Jan 1, 2020 12:10am Dec 31, 2019 11:45pm | Edited Jan 1, 2020 12:10am
Quoting jmflukeiii
{quote} Actually he made references to his books I believe in this thread on several occasions. I would imagine that should require disclosure as a Commercial Member, etc.
He mentions the book as a means to expose his ideas and his history in this game.

You and all of us have a choice to buy it or not. Comercial or non commercial is beyond the scope of tgis discussion.

We are all still waiting for Robin Royal Highness , Aka Winston Reed, to expose her own ideas. Let alone write a book.

If someone writes a book, he/she is exposing ideas to PUBLIC scrutiny and judgement. That takes time and courage.

I have yet to see a simple “thread” from Robin Hood Royal Highness. Let alone a book. She certainly doesn’t have the brains to uniquely write a book.

Hell, she doesn’t have the balls to start a simple thread about her own ideas/trades/skills... Well, what am I talking about? Bitches don’t have balls. Right?

It’s very easy to point fingers while hiding under a stone.

That actually has a different name: cowardice.

Typical keyboard warrior behavior.

Don’t you want to learn Robin’s infallible methods?
  • #568
  • Jan 1, 2020 12:12am Jan 1, 2020 12:12am
Quoting jupiter_peak
{quote} He mentions the book as a means to expose his ideas and his history in this game. You and all of us have a choice to buy it or not. Comercial or non commercial is beyond the scope of tgis discussion. We are all still waiting for Robin Royal Highness , Aka Winston Reed, to expose her own ideas. Let alone write a book. If someone writes a book, he/she is exposing ideas to PUBLIC scrutiny and judgement. That takes time and courage. I have yet to see a simple “thread” from Robin Hood Royal Highness. Let alone a book. She certainly doesn’t have...
Jupiter, you need to tone yourself down. Id hate to get Twee involved, but you have been acting straightout disrespectful.

Anyone can write a book, and plenty people who wrote a book often does better selling their book than they do at trading. because they have the time to spare.

back to trading. still dont see any reason to sell just yet let alone calling for ludicrous levels like 18k on Dow without proper reason.
doesnt need no data scientist to know it has been a common occurence to see a 5-10% correction in a bull trend and that a correction of anything more than 30% is usually associated to a theme.
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #569
  • Edited 1:31am Jan 1, 2020 12:18am | Edited 1:31am
Quoting fxtyrant
{quote} Jupiter, you need to tone yourself down. Id hate to get Twee involved, but you have been acting straightout disrespectful. Anyone can write a book, and plenty people who wrote a book often does better selling their book than they do at trading. because they have the time to spare. back to trading. still dont see any reason to sell just yet let alone calling for ludicrous levels like 18k on Dow without proper reason. doesnt need no data scientist to know it has been a common occurence to see a 5-10% correction in a bull trend and that a correction...
You guys bought into this fight. I am fighting it to your rules. You both were the disrespectful ones. Not me.

Not my rules. Start posting positive and creative stuff and we are all good. Be respectful first. You will get the same amount of respect back.

And I’ll tone it down whenever I want to.

You can call God for all I care. I don’t live out of FF and I’ll have my say to give to whomever you chose to cry your tears with.

Are we good from now on? Can we have a creative/positive discussion?

Again, nobody invited you or Robin to post. You chose to behave like Aholes.

Now, can you please share YOUR OWN ideas/trades/accounts managed/studies/amount managed so we can all scrutinize you as well? Trading is about precision. Could you precisely enlighten us about where/when/hiw will you enter the market as well as when/how/where will you exit the market?

It’s very easy and coward-like to point fingers when you, yourself have pretty generic things to say.

Are we good from now on buddy?
  • #570
  • Jan 1, 2020 1:29am Jan 1, 2020 1:29am
Quoting jupiter_peak
When are we going to see your thread with your trades and ideas? You have ways of judging and criticizing people, let’s see about you. Can we see your trades? Your ideas? The books you wrote? Your threads? Your scientific studies? The money you managed? We would love to scrutinize your so called trading life. Let’s see it. Ha? Can we see it tonight/today?
thanks a lot for coming into this stupidest of discussions on my side, mate... but I don't really think it was necessary indeed... you seem to be just wasting your time and efforts to convince an absolute nobody of something well beyond his intellectual capabilities... that sort of people is invulnerable to any kind of reasoning... I'm 58 y.o. and yet to meet a single fool that would voluntary admit and then swear on the bible that he's "a fool, a complete fool and nothing but a fool" regardless of any evidence and circumstance... and now he is even ready to risk his milk money by putting that $1500 filthy pocket change on the table in order to challenge you thus once again proving he's is genuinely insane... please, let him go and don't argue any more as it's quite pointless... feeding a troll is a bad idea for any forum's participant... FF is no exception... I'm quite sure we better let him fly over his cuckoo's nest nurturing his sick imagination alone ...
  • #571
  • Jan 1, 2020 1:50am Jan 1, 2020 1:50am
Quoting Igrok
{quote} thanks a lot for coming into this stupidest of discussions on my side, mate... but I don't really think it was necessary indeed... you seem to be just wasting your time and efforts to convince an absolute nobody of something well beyond his intellectual capabilities... that sort of people is invulnerable to any kind of reasoning... I'm 58 y.o. and yet to meet a single fool that would voluntary admit and then swear on the bible that he's "a fool, a complete fool and nothing but a fool" regardless of any evidence and circumstance... and now...
You are right Igrok.

However, I believe the world has lost its ways. Sometimes it’s good to show these fools that there’s more to it than just hiding behind a keyboard and being plain disrespectful.

It’s not about you exclusively, it’s about choice, respect, seniority and other values absent in so many households these days.

However we might all disagree to certain things/ideas, we have to maintain respect. I can totally see aholes like these disrespecting my father or my mother or even me personally for God’s sake!

We cannot accept a world where people say whatever they feel like and don’t think there are no consequences.

Although I tend to think I am a very logical person and a law abiding citizen, sometimes I feel like Mike Tyson was/is a genius himself...

And at last free will: who in their sane minds would bash and troll people like this?

I think it’s a lost cause.

Anyways, my Italian blood takes no disrespect ligy I guess...

Happy New Year!
  • #572
  • Edited 2:51am Jan 1, 2020 2:31am | Edited 2:51am
Quoting jupiter_peak
{quote} You are right Igrok. However, I believe the world has lost its ways. Sometimes it’s good to show these fools that there’s more to it than just hiding behind a keyboard and being plain disrespectful. It’s not about you exclusively, it’s about choice, respect, seniority and other values absent in so many households these days. However we might all disagree to certain things/ideas, we have to maintain respect. I can totally see aholes like these disrespecting my father or my mother or even me personally for God’s sake! We cannot accept a world...

take it easy, Jupiter.... I once wrote to my senator suggesting one more constitutional amendment... something like "a well-regulated madhouse, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the rest of the people to keep and bear sanity shall not be infringed"... didn't get the reply though...

on the other hand, I can tell you, that in fact, things are not really as bad as you outlined them here... are you sure that you actually in some need to be respected by the rats sneaking at night around your backyard and rummaging through your trash containers?... I personally don't think so... they are what they are and, thanks God, we don't need to allow them to play any more or less important roles in our lives...same thing is true for this particular situation... though it's a rat's year that we just came into... so, stay safely away from cuckoos and have a nice life... Happy New Year!...
  • #573
  • Edited 4:31am Jan 1, 2020 3:55am | Edited 4:31am
Quoting jmflukeiii
{quote} Actually he made references to his books I believe in this thread on several occasions.
support this claim of yours with actual links or stick it up your rear end...
  • #574
  • Jan 1, 2020 5:12am Jan 1, 2020 5:12am
Would be great to stick to the topic of the thread, with more analysis, charts & so on.

We don't care who's right or wrong really. If unhappy, just leave the thread and go spam elsewhere
COT: The precious data ignored
  • #575
  • Jan 1, 2020 6:10am Jan 1, 2020 6:10am
Quoting kuroro001
Would be great to stick to the topic of the thread, with more analysis, charts & so on. We don't care who's right or wrong really. If unhappy, just leave the thread and go spam elsewhere
technical picture on the Dow, S&P and NASDAQ is unlikely to change dramatically some time soon... if it's really a diamond then it might take about a year or even a bit longer to complete the formation... if it's not - then the whole idea will have to be reconsidered... though 18K target on the Dow is a must regardless...

meanwhile today's economic fundamental picture is completely irrelevant to the future as it is always subject to changes... sometimes dramatic ones that might happen over a very short period of time... political stuff might also play a major role in the future market's collapse... and it might be anything... like current US cold civil war between liberals and conservatives which has a good chance to turn into a hot one... or US will clash with Russia or China or both over some international BS politics... it's completely unpredictable at this point... so, the only sure thing is the initial decline of the DJIA to 18K that will take place no matter what and in its due time...
  • #576
  • Jan 1, 2020 7:28am Jan 1, 2020 7:28am
Quoting Igrok
{quote} technical picture on the Dow, S&P and NASDAQ is unlikely to change dramatically some time soon... if it's really a diamond then it might take about a year or even a bit longer to complete the formation... if it's not - then the whole idea will have to be reconsidered... though 18K target on the Dow is a must regardless... meanwhile today's economic fundamental picture is completely irrelevant to the future as it is always subject to changes... sometimes dramatic ones that might happen over a very short period of time... political stuff might...
so basically nothing but a conspiracy theory... and an obsession that market would correct in accordance to fibo levels...

dont mean to disrespect but thats what im im reading...

i mean even a fund manager like Michael J. Burry was able to call a correction years ahead and pinpoint it to a credit bubble in the US housing market....
We live in a finite world with infinite possibilities.
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  • #577
  • Jan 1, 2020 7:28am Jan 1, 2020 7:28am
With respect to investing I’ve clearly articulated my strategy: Regular and automatic deposits during all markets whether the market is going up or going down. This is commonly known as dollar-cost-averaging. It is a well-known investing strategy that works well in a well-diversified portfolio and is absolutely proven without question to work. So there you have it. Nothing complicated. Nothing special. And it works.

So far this thread has not really said much about trading but in essence is about market-timing. In this case it’s about predicting a catastrophic decline in the US stock market that will lead to it’s end. There is no evidence to suggest that anyone except a few who got lucky with a prediction of a market decline have made any money. There’s nothing to prove here. The history of the market is it’s own proof.

Equity markets are just that...equity. Equity increases as people build businesses and sell products in a capitalistic society. Markets can only continue up over the long term. No one makes money consistently shorting such a market. Yeah one might make a lucky call but it will be a one time event. Not much different than winning the lottery.

With regards to the challenge in regards to trading it still stands.
  • #578
  • Jan 1, 2020 7:41am Jan 1, 2020 7:41am
Quoting Winston Reed
With respect to investing I’ve clearly articulated my strategy: Regular and automatic deposits during all markets whether the market is going up or going down. This is commonly known as dollar-cost-averaging. It is a well-known investing strategy that works well in a well-diversified portfolio and is absolutely proven without question to work. So there you have it. Nothing complicated. Nothing special. And it works. So far this thread has not really said much about trading but in essence is about market-timing. In this case it’s about predicting...
Lady,

we are all still waiting for your ideas/trades/systems/studies.

Here is your thread:
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12682970#post12682970

Again, you are the best. Can you show us how to do it?

Thanks advance.
  • #579
  • Jan 1, 2020 7:42am Jan 1, 2020 7:42am
One more thing. Igrok is the thread starter making the claims. It is proper to ask questions and even challenge such claims when made in public. This is called free speech. The only individual who has something to prove is Igrok and so far he’s done precious little in that regard. I, FX Tryrant and others have debunked Igrok completely as he should be. He is free to prove us otherwise. He can start by providing some very simple information:

1. What is the name of the fund you are currently managing?
2. What credentials do you have to be a fund manager?

Actually I can probably answer

1. None
2. None
  • #580
  • Jan 1, 2020 7:46am Jan 1, 2020 7:46am
Quoting jupiter_peak
{quote} Lady, we are all still waiting for your ideas/trades/systems/studies. Here is your thread: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12682970#post12682970 Again, you are the best. Can you show us how to do it? Thanks advance.
Hiding behind your angry rhetoric are you? Challenge still there if your man enough. I’m ready to put it all out there but you have to play along too.
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