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  • Oct 23, 2006 6:47pm Oct 23, 2006 6:47pm
  •  clam61
  • | Joined Jun 2006 | Status: Member | 469 Posts
Quoting aha
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Here you go.
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i could be wrong, but shouldn't the red bar after the 9 bar sell setup be the 1st bar in a 9 bar buy setup, therefore cancelling the 13 sell countdown?
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  • Oct 23, 2006 7:55pm Oct 23, 2006 7:55pm
  •  kingskids
  • | Joined Sep 2006 | Status: . . . because of HIM | 26 Posts
Quoting aha
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Hi guys,

The attached is the version 0.2 of PinI4B AHA indicator. I was a little annoyed by missing so many good price action opportunities. So it now has the email alert function (which can be received by my cell) and a little more complicate logic for pin bar search. Please test it and enjoy this 24x5 pinbar search helper!

Next I will add more price action patterns into this. Watch out!

aha
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Aha -

Great job on the pinbar indicator. Would it be possible to show a special indicator where there is an 8 or 9 on the TD Sequential setup that stands out from the rest? Thanks.
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2006 12:29am Oct 24, 2006 12:29am
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
Nop, unless the bull setup is completed, the bear countdown won't be cancelled at this situation.



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i could be wrong, but shouldn't the red bar after the 9 bar sell setup be the 1st bar in a 9 bar buy setup, therefore cancelling the 13 sell countdown?
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  • Oct 24, 2006 12:35am Oct 24, 2006 12:35am
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
Thanks. Though I just started to use it today, I find it very handy. And the price action indicator I mentioned in the post is done now. Besides Pin and I4B, it can search DBHLC DBLHC BUOB and BEOB as well. I will test it before I release it.

For TD-Seq, you can always turn the numbering off. And the arrows will signal the finish of the setup or countdown. And I now have a version that will send email alerts on the completion for setup and countdown as well. Will post it after I test it.


Quoting kingskids
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Aha -

Great job on the pinbar indicator. Would it be possible to show a special indicator where there is an 8 or 9 on the TD Sequential setup that stands out from the rest? Thanks.
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  • Oct 24, 2006 9:19am Oct 24, 2006 9:19am
  •  hans_gregor
  • | Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 99 Posts
Quoting phoenix
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Hi all.

Does anyone know if the demarker indicator that's already present on MT4 is one of Demark's Indicator. Investools has an indicator with the exact same name (and is explained to be an indicator developed by demark).

Out of curiousity, I put the indicator on GBP/CHF charts and looked for strong reversal candles (pinbars, evening\morning stars, doji stars) when the indicator was in the overbought or oversold regions. I quickly scanned back as far as april 2005.

It was remarkably accurate in predicting reversals especially generating a sell signal after a prolonged uptrends. It also kept people out bad trades.

I'm writing for two reasons. Does anyone know what this demarker indicator is?

And this could be potentially be a very simple yet profitable system.

phoenix

p.s. i'm still working on TD carrie.
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From MQL4 website:
Demarker Technical Indicator is based on the comparison of the period maximum with the previous period maximum. If the current period (bar) maximum is higher, the respective difference between the two will be registered. If the current maximum is lower or equaling the maximum of the previous period, the naught value will be registered. The differences received for N periods are then summarized. The received value is used as the numerator of the DeMarker and will be divided by the same value plus the sum of differences between the price minima of the previous and the current periods (bars). If the current price minimum is greater than that of the previous bar, the naught value will be registered. When the indicator falls below 30, the bullish price reversal should be expected. When the indicator rises above 70, the bearish price reversal should be expected.

It seems to be TD DeMarker I, with a small difference: Demark uses a scale of 0-100. But this should not be a problem.

Also there is another version that is not implemented, I will try to do it.
The trend isyour friend untilis about to end...
 
 
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  • Oct 24, 2006 12:04pm Oct 24, 2006 12:04pm
  •  clam61
  • | Joined Jun 2006 | Status: Member | 469 Posts
phoenix,

what time frame did you use?

Quoting phoenix
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Hi all.

Does anyone know if the demarker indicator that's already present on MT4 is one of Demark's Indicator. Investools has an indicator with the exact same name (and is explained to be an indicator developed by demark).

Out of curiousity, I put the indicator on GBP/CHF charts and looked for strong reversal candles (pinbars, evening\morning stars, doji stars) when the indicator was in the overbought or oversold regions. I quickly scanned back as far as april 2005.

It was remarkably accurate in predicting reversals especially generating a sell signal after a prolonged uptrends. It also kept people out bad trades.

I'm writing for two reasons. Does anyone know what this demarker indicator is?

And this could be potentially be a very simple yet profitable system.

phoenix

p.s. i'm still working on TD carrie.
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  • Oct 24, 2006 3:38pm Oct 24, 2006 3:38pm
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
Man! Missed the Setup on CAD 4H. I even build in email alert in my v0.5, but the computer running my indicator got disconnected from the server (I have two computer running MT4 behind a router, one for daily and one for 4H, they have the same external IP. It seems that the MT4 server don't support this kind of configuration).

The signal seems to be quite accurate so far.
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  • Oct 24, 2006 7:23pm Oct 24, 2006 7:23pm
  •  clam61
  • | Joined Jun 2006 | Status: Member | 469 Posts
Quoting aha
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Here you go.
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cool thanks! ok i fixed my indicator, and added TDST lines as well.

what feed are you guys using? when i use another feed besides interbankfx (which is what is shown here), my numberings are different and it changes the 13 as well as the blue stop loss line dramatically.

i guess that is one of the dangers of this indicator.

btw, notice how the pin bar topped off right at the blue stop loss line! coincidence?
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  • Oct 25, 2006 2:57am Oct 25, 2006 2:57am
  •  phoenix
  • | Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 53 Posts
to clam:

i use the daily charts for the quick scan of the demarker indicator.

for TD carrie, i'm using daily. My results thus far are inconclusive--i have too many trades that opened and closed on the same day.

i will have to sacrifice long historical duration for accuracy.

hmm...i thought this would be straightforward, but the darn thing is taking a lot longer for me to code than i expected...


to hans: thank you for the info!


phoenix

Quoting clam61
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phoenix,

what time frame did you use?
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  • Oct 25, 2006 3:02am Oct 25, 2006 3:02am
  •  phoenix
  • | Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 53 Posts
Do any of you guys know if I can have MT4 show a portion of the historical data and then have it incremental show succeeding portions of the data?

For example.

Say have daily data from january 1,2005 to the present.

I would then want MT4 to show me data from january 1, 2005 to february 1, 2005. At the press of button, I want MT4 to show me the following day, february 2, 2005. Each press of the button shows me the succeeding day.

You can imagine this would be great for practicing price action analysis, elliot wave analysis etrc....i.e. you can perform your analysis and quickly see if the analysis was correct.

phoenix
 
 
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  • Oct 25, 2006 3:08am Oct 25, 2006 3:08am
  •  phoenix
  • | Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 53 Posts
forgive me if I sound like a complete newbie (I still partially am and working like heck to become an "expert")....

but my friend said yahoo has historical data for all the stocks it carries on its website. one can download it into a spreadsheet.

why not import it into MT4 and do your technical on it from there?


btw does anyone know any java and VB or windows scripting? I'm thinking someone can write an applet that would do this automatically for a given stock...

phoenix



Quoting hans_gregor
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I don't know if this is what you want, but there are some servers for MT4 which have some stocks: like Orion, Gimex, Realtrade and Forex LTD. If you don't have the server files, I will post them here.
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  • Oct 25, 2006 3:38am Oct 25, 2006 3:38am
  •  phoenix
  • | Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 53 Posts
i've been slowly going through demark on daytrading book, and he mentions using smaller time frames to confirm a TD sequential sell\buy signal. pg 115
"Also we feel it is crucial to time one's entry into the market. To do so, we look for additional signals in smaller time frames, either an additional completed Setup phase, a completed countdown phase or another indicator reading."

for those of you testing TD sequential or combo, you may want to further refine your entries by looking at smaller time frames.

phoenix


Quoting clam61
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cool thanks! ok i fixed my indicator, and added TDST lines as well.

what feed are you guys using? when i use another feed besides interbankfx (which is what is shown here), my numberings are different and it changes the 13 as well as the blue stop loss line dramatically.

i guess that is one of the dangers of this indicator.

btw, notice how the pin bar topped off right at the blue stop loss line! coincidence?
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  • Oct 25, 2006 3:53am Oct 25, 2006 3:53am
  •  phoenix
  • | Joined Apr 2006 | Status: Member | 53 Posts
on pg 125 of "demark on daytrading" demark says:

"Of the three phase...intersection is the least important. Intersection only applies to stocks and stock options and has no application to futures or indices. Intersection was introduced to TD Sequential to prevent premature market entry by determining whether a market's price was sufficiently weak or sufficiently strong to continue to move in the direction of the outstanding trend thereby disregarding any setup or countdown indication. Specifically, it was designed to prevent a trader from purchasing a stock or the call option of a company going bankrupt or conversely from selling the stock or buying the put options of a company which may acquired."

is there anyway you guys can have input which makes intersection optional?

phoenix

sorry for inundating you guys with all these posts--not sure what the etiquette for forums are.

in any case i try to make a separate reply for a separate subject.


Quoting clam61
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i dont know if anyone has included the intersection phase of TD Sequential. I had, but I have now taken it out. After more reading, intersection only applies to stocks and options.
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  • Oct 25, 2006 6:04am Oct 25, 2006 6:04am
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
Good Call! I am using it mostly on 4H, combined with other methods. Sometimes I do go down to 1H to check if there is a confirmation.



Quoting phoenix
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i've been slowly going through demark on daytrading book, and he mentions using smaller time frames to confirm a TD sequential sell\buy signal. pg 115
"Also we feel it is crucial to time one's entry into the market. To do so, we look for additional signals in smaller time frames, either an additional completed Setup phase, a completed countdown phase or another indicator reading."

for those of you testing TD sequential or combo, you may want to further refine your entries by looking at smaller time frames.

phoenix
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  • Oct 25, 2006 6:08am Oct 25, 2006 6:08am
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
You could use page up/down to go back to the time you want to see in the chart, use your mouse to fine tune it, then press F12 will do the trick to move one bar forward.



Quoting phoenix
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Do any of you guys know if I can have MT4 show a portion of the historical data and then have it incremental show succeeding portions of the data?

For example.

Say have daily data from january 1,2005 to the present.

I would then want MT4 to show me data from january 1, 2005 to february 1, 2005. At the press of button, I want MT4 to show me the following day, february 2, 2005. Each press of the button shows me the succeeding day.

You can imagine this would be great for practicing price action analysis, elliot wave analysis etrc....i.e. you can perform your analysis and quickly see if the analysis was correct.

phoenix
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  • Oct 25, 2006 12:02pm Oct 25, 2006 12:02pm
  •  clam61
  • | Joined Jun 2006 | Status: Member | 469 Posts
could one of you guys check this out? im writing a Hull MA indicator, but its kinda funky in its display...it will only show up the first time you add the indicator, but if you change time frames it will dissapear.

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If we take the 10 period simple average of these numbers then,
not surprisingly, we will determine the midpoint of 4.5
which significantly lags behind the most recent price point of 9.
Here's the clever bit…first let's halve the period of
the average to 5 and apply it to the most recent numbers of 5,6,7,8,
and 9, the result being the midpoint of 7.

Finally, to remove the lag we take the midpoint of 7 and add the
difference between the two averages which equals 2.5 (7 - 4.5).
This gives a final answer of 9.5 (7 + 2.5) which is a slight
overcompensation. But this overcompensation is very handy because it
offsets the lagging effect of the nested averaging.


Inserted Code
//---- indicator settings
#property  indicator_chart_window
#property  indicator_buffers 1
#property  indicator_color1  Blue



//---- indicator parameters
extern int HMAPeriod = 10;
extern color MAColor = Blue;
extern int shift = 0;
//---- indicator buffers
double buff[];



//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
//| Custom indicator initialization function |
//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
int init()
 {
//---- indicator buffers mapping
  SetIndexBuffer(0,buff);
  
//---- drawing settings
  SetIndexStyle(0,DRAW_LINE,STYLE_SOLID,1);
  SetIndexLabel(0,"Hull Moving Average");
  
//---- initialization done
  return(0);
 }
 
//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
//| Custor indicator deinitialization function |
//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
int deinit()
  {
//---- 
   
//----
   return(0);
  }
  
//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
//| Hull Moving Average |
//+------------------------------------------------------------------+
int start()
 {
  int limit,i,shift;
  int counted_bars=IndicatorCounted();
//---- check for possible errors
  if(counted_bars < 1) 
return (-1);

//---- last counted bar will be recounted
  if(counted_bars>0) 
counted_bars--;

  limit=Bars-counted_bars;
  
/*
If we take the 10 period simple average of these numbers then, 
not surprisingly, we will determine the midpoint of 4.5 
which significantly lags behind the most recent price point of 9. 
Here's the clever bit…first let's halve the period of 
the average to 5 and apply it to the most recent numbers of 5,6,7,8, 
and 9, the result being the midpoint of 7.

Finally, to remove the lag we take the midpoint of 7 and add the 
difference between the two averages which equals 2.5 (7 - 4.5). 
This gives a final answer of 9.5 (7 + 2.5) which is a slight 
overcompensation. But this overcompensation is very handy because it 
offsets the lagging effect of the nested averaging.
*/

  for(i=0; i<limit; i++) {
//int sma = iMA(NULL,0,HMA_Period,shift,MODE_SMA, PRICE_CLOSE,i);
//int sma_half=iMA(NULL,0,MathRound(HMA_Period/2),shift,MODE_SMA, PRICE_CLOSE,i);
// Alert(iMA(NULL,0,HMAPeriod,shift,MODE_SMA, PRICE_CLOSE,i) + iMA(NULL,0,MathRound(HMAPeriod/2),shift,MODE_SMA, PRICE_CLOSE,i));
buff[i] = 2*iMA(NULL,0,MathRound(HMAPeriod/2),shift,MODE_SMA, PRICE_CLOSE,i) - iMA(NULL,0,HMAPeriod,shift,MODE_SMA, PRICE_CLOSE,i);
  }

//---- done
  return(0);
 }
 
 
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  • Oct 25, 2006 4:31pm Oct 25, 2006 4:31pm
  •  aha
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If current 4H bar closed higher than 8761, there will be a bearish setup formed on Cable, then I will be looking for an opportunity to sell. Let's see how it turns out.
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  • Oct 25, 2006 5:07pm Oct 25, 2006 5:07pm
  •  accrete
  • Joined Jan 2006 | Status: Pips Ahoy! | 1,130 Posts
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what feed are you guys using? when i use another feed besides interbankfx (which is what is shown here), my numberings are different and it changes the 13 as well as the blue stop loss line dramatically.

i guess that is one of the dangers of this indicator.
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Hi Clam, i posted a situation similar to this indicator-feed-disparity the other day on a different thread. Check the below image out of two exact RSI indicators shown with the Alpari feed above, and the IBFX Feed below. They are very, very different. So different in fact that i'm rethinking my thinking o wheather to include such indicators in my daily trading model or not! I know that the difference is caused in part, if not all, by the fact of the differing time zones of the feeds...this still does not help totaly. Which feed / signals will be more profitable in the long run?? Who knows. And maybe it won't make any difference?

Here is the pic. Either way, good observation and best wishes in your trading.

http://www.accrete.com/fx-posts/tgle...iscrepency.gif
 
 
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  • Oct 25, 2006 6:46pm Oct 25, 2006 6:46pm
  •  aha
  • Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 535 Posts
Yeah, I have encountered this time feed problem again and again, from system to system. My take is that statistically it shouldn't matter in long run, but for a particular trade it can be a disaster. This is especially true for those systems that requires to pinpoint entry points. So the longer term you trade, the less effects it produces. If you just use the indicator to get the market direction, instead of pinpointing entry point, you can minimize the effect. Of course this is not possible for lower timeframes.



Quoting accrete
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Hi Clam, i posted a situation similar to this indicator-feed-disparity the other day on a different thread. Check the below image out of two exact RSI indicators shown with the Alpari feed above, and the IBFX Feed below. They are very, very different. So different in fact that i'm rethinking my thinking o wheather to include such indicators in my daily trading model or not! I know that the difference is caused in part, if not all, by the fact of the differing time zones of the feeds...this still does not help totaly. Which feed / signals will be more profitable in the long run?? Who knows. And maybe it won't make any difference?

Here is the pic. Either way, good observation and best wishes in your trading.
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  • Oct 25, 2006 7:20pm Oct 25, 2006 7:20pm
  •  GP2X
  • | Joined Jul 2006 | Status: Member | 66 Posts
Ok, then we should use TD Combo, or just TD Setup without countdown
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on pg 125 of "demark on daytrading" demark says:

"Of the three phase...intersection is the least important. Intersection only applies to stocks and stock options and has no application to futures or indices. Intersection was introduced to TD Sequential to prevent premature market entry by determining whether a market's price was sufficiently weak or sufficiently strong to continue to move in the direction of the outstanding trend thereby disregarding any setup or countdown indication. Specifically, it was designed to prevent a trader from purchasing a stock or the call option of a company going bankrupt or conversely from selling the stock or buying the put options of a company which may acquired."

is there anyway you guys can have input which makes intersection optional?

phoenix

sorry for inundating you guys with all these posts--not sure what the etiquette for forums are.

in any case i try to make a separate reply for a separate subject.
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