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  • #98,281
  • Nov 22, 2019 4:37pm Nov 22, 2019 4:37pm
The question is, do they need your forgiveness?
Some of them are no longer on the forums. And some even knowing that you forgave them all the same will not return, but only laugh.
So, I don’t think it’s a good idea to do it publicly. If you want to forgive someone, just do it quietly and forgive them in your heart.
It's my opinion.
  • #98,282
  • Edited 6:40pm Nov 22, 2019 6:10pm | Edited 6:40pm
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
New Poll on Page 1: Should we forgive all the trolls and give them a 2nd chance to contribute in 2020? We are nearing 2020 and today I thought about forgiving all my trolls and haters. But before I do that I want to know your thoughts and therefore I created a poll. I think it is best to decide all together to forgive them or not. I am aware that it can create unwanted toxic people to come back for some time but maybe this time they behave. No worries, if not I can ban them again anyway, but I think it is worth the effort to win some of them back....

Hi Ata,
I do something similar with the ones I put into my ignore list, if they have changed their approach, and are willing to take trading more seriously then I remove them from my ignore list,

Trading is a serious business, if they dont wish to treat it so, then the ignore button is only a click away.

Back to trading, I see a EUR/USD low around the 1.0939/094 area before the bulls return in force.

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USD Index area for a reversal maybe completed around the 98.618 area as well,
Before there Is more down side. IMHO

But as always trade wisely folks and time will reveal all.

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  • #98,283
  • Nov 23, 2019 2:54am Nov 23, 2019 2:54am
Quoting Seysin32
The question is, do they need your forgiveness? Some of them are no longer on the forums. And some even knowing that you forgave them all the same will not return, but only laugh. So, I don’t think it’s a good idea to do it publicly. If you want to forgive someone, just do it quietly and forgive them in your heart. It's my opinion.
Thanks for the input Seysin.. Appreciated.. One thing I need to clarify though is that banning them was never personal (at least for the majority).. All were removed for the sake of the thread members.. I personally have no feelings in this matter and therefore there is nothing to forgive in my heart.. I guess I should have used "un-ignoring" or "un-banning" instead of "forgiving". I hope it clarifies

Quoting Dingoman-two
{quote} Hi Ata, I do something similar with the ones I put into my ignore list, if they have changed their approach, and are willing to take trading more seriously then I remove them from my ignore list, Trading is a serious business, if they dont wish to treat it so, then the ignore button is only a click away. Back to trading, I see a EUR/USD low around the 1.0939/094 area before the bulls return in force. {image} USD Index area for a reversal maybe completed around the 98.618 area as well, Before there Is more down side. IMHO But as always trade...
Thanks for your input buddy, appreciated

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #98,284
  • Nov 23, 2019 3:33am Nov 23, 2019 3:33am
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This week, we are coming to oversold area.

I can start a BUY serie between 1.1007 - 1.0982

For these positions, tp will be 1.1021...
  • #98,285
  • Nov 23, 2019 3:51am Nov 23, 2019 3:51am
For me -ignore- if some person insults another person.Anybody can do mistake in trading,trading is our own responsibility.We can't blame people for being wrong in short or long positions.Sometimes i see it happens in forexfactory forums.
  • #98,286
  • Edited 4:11am Nov 23, 2019 3:58am | Edited 4:11am
Quoting viktoriaxz
For me -ignore- if some person insults another person.Anybody can do mistake in trading,trading is our own responsibility.We can't blame people for being wrong in short or long positions.Sometimes i see it happens in forexfactory forums.
Viktoria I understand your thought process, but my situation is different.. I am "thread admin" which means if I ignore a member, he or she can not post on this thread.. That's the core reason of the current discussion of allowing ignored members to post again or not.. It is a technical issue of Forexfactory.. They should give "admins" a 2nd option next to "ignoring". Admins should be able to "ban" a member next to "ignore" their posts.. That is what is missing in FF.

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #98,287
  • Nov 23, 2019 4:22am Nov 23, 2019 4:22am
So, Friday, as soon as H1 candles closed below 1.1044 I had to switch back to bearish. (The warning came actually much earlier when H1 candles closed below 1.1063 but I insisted in my bullish view a little bit more despite the fact that H1 candles already dropped below GREEN line).

Therefore, with current picture in mind and based on H1, I am going to to sell swing highs until I see either some MACD divergence or bullish signs near 1.1001 or wherever rejection shows itself. H1 GREEN line helps me anyway (as long as I don't make that mistake to ignore that line).

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #98,288
  • Nov 23, 2019 5:12am Nov 23, 2019 5:12am
Quoting viktoriaxz
For me -ignore- if some person insults another person.Anybody can do mistake in trading,trading is our own responsibility.We can't blame people for being wrong in short or long positions.Sometimes i see it happens in forexfactory forums.
i find some very successful threads like this one i know of others that get attacked because they are a successful thread just to be an annoyance to the thread and the admin of the thread keep the thread free from broker interference whos people have joined forex factory to disrupt traders getting the good information i see you join in June this year
people leave, but this thread will go on for ever
  • #98,289
  • Nov 23, 2019 7:47am Nov 23, 2019 7:47am
Quoting tush1822
Hi All, new to this forum, first time posting the analysis!!! Technically - Blue marked area is key for Bulls, Agree with Ata that there may be lots of SL hunting before PA will enter into the Blue zone (1.10800 -1.11675) Fundamentally -Good time to enter is after tomorrow's FOMC meeting minutes release > may praise US economy> Strong USD > may create dip buying opportunities. However, abrupt US CHINA trade deal news may tamper the game. {image}
update (23/11/2019)
Overview- Bullish- Unless there is a clear breakthrough of US-China, I think its hard to break the Black TL. That makes buy zone (1.09880-1.03030)
Fundamentally- EURO -All negative news from EU are over- ECB dovish speech +mixed PMI. I think QE will start showing effect from now to Q1 2020 which will improve region's PMIs slightly.
USD- mixed to negative outlook will be dominated by US CHINA trade deal news by 15/12/2019.
Technically- Black trend line will play. Breakout retesting - red zone will play to validate bullish outlook . Can enter long on H1 or H4 level reversal confirmation.
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  • #98,290
  • Nov 23, 2019 9:49am Nov 23, 2019 9:49am
Hi Guys.

I have seen at least 5 members and could be more, grow from low impact to high impact members under Ata's thread. I am one of them. No denying. It is under these conditions that serious traders are allowed to grow and express their trading styles. Ata's thread gets alot of attention because of the way it is run. Thanks Ata.
Forgiving is good karma and if traders are not willing to abide by it then so be it. You do not deserve to be in this thread.
I have not been involved in this thread so much this past week because of personal circumstances, my Mum had a stroke and I will be out of action for a bit.

Take care Guys
Cheers.
Trade to trade another day
  • #98,291
  • Nov 23, 2019 10:16am Nov 23, 2019 10:16am
Quoting Aussi
{quote} i find some very successful threads like this one i know of others that get attacked because they are a successful thread just to be an annoyance to the thread and the admin of the thread keep the thread free from broker interference whos people have joined forex factory to disrupt traders getting the good information i see you join in June this year
Sorry.This is a joke.I dont understand you well.Im from broker side?
  • #98,292
  • Nov 23, 2019 10:20am Nov 23, 2019 10:20am
Quoting Wavegarrick
Hi Guys. I have seen at least 5 members and could be more, grow from low impact to high impact members under Ata's thread. I am one of them. No denying. It is under these conditions that serious traders are allowed to grow and express their trading styles. Ata's thread gets alot of attention because of the way it is run. Thanks Ata. Forgiving is good karma and if traders are not willing to abide by it then so be it. You do not deserve to be in this thread. I have not been involved in this thread so much this past week because of personal circumstances,...
Thanks I appreciate your positive thoughts on this brother.. and I am wishing quick recuperation and all the best to your Mom Leon.. I am sure she is in good hands..

Stay Green
Focus only on what truly matters!
  • #98,293
  • Nov 23, 2019 12:00pm Nov 23, 2019 12:00pm
I agree with the forgiveness I think it could still benefit everyone. We can't control what other people do but we can at least give opportunity. Ata has put up with my idiotic ways for some months now. I thank him for his patience.
  • #98,294
  • Nov 23, 2019 12:11pm Nov 23, 2019 12:11pm
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} and I am wishing quick recuperation and all the best to your Mom Leon.. I am sure she is in good hands.. Stay Green
Ata, these are the best words I heard all week. Thanks so much.
Trade to trade another day
  • #98,295
  • Nov 23, 2019 1:22pm Nov 23, 2019 1:22pm
Quoting viktoriaxz
{quote} Sorry.This is a joke.I dont understand you well. Im from broker side?
Ata-Turkoglu , is very well respected by the traders , his thread his rules he decides all things , and no i did not make a joke , i only pointed out you are new to FF , i have over the years unbanned from my threads only to see personal attacks by these people again so now when i ban most will stay banned , once banned cannot re post on the thread
people leave, but this thread will go on for ever
  • #98,296
  • Nov 23, 2019 1:35pm Nov 23, 2019 1:35pm
Yes.you mean im new here.Now its ok.but a lot of forums here.you can post on another forums.
  • #98,297
  • Nov 24, 2019 4:08am Nov 24, 2019 4:08am
Quoting khany
{image} This week, we are coming to oversold area. I can start a BUY serie between 1.1007 - 1.0982 For these positions, tp will be 1.1021...
What makes this pair over sold? The way I see it anything can happen. There is absolutley nothing stopping this pair from falling to test the lows of 1.0884-6
Freedom is an asset.
  • #98,298
  • Edited 4:58am Nov 24, 2019 4:36am | Edited 4:58am
Quoting AlexanderE
{quote} What makes this pair over sold? The way I see it anything can happen. There is absolutely nothing stopping this pair from falling to test the lows of 1.0884-6
Yes they keep saying that but first of all there is no such thing as "oversold/overbought". That term sometime works but often fails, especially inside strong trends. (In "share" markets it might work more often but not in forex markets). You will notice that "oversold" fanatics will always show up when market flows choppy or sideways. Most of the time lines reaching into RSI, Stochastics or whatsoever over-sold and over-bought zones means actually buy/sell even more. Again especially inside strong trends those concepts fail heavily, so my suggestion is relax and ignore those talks.

Now, looking on DAILY chart in a simplex way, we first have to see at least a drop below fib 78.6 if not 88.6 to talk about bearish continuation. In other words as long as daily candles stay roughly above 1.0930/60 zone it is still better to check for buy opportunities. But yes, once price drops below 1.0930 area it can get nasty in a hurry. My two cents..

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  • #98,299
  • Nov 24, 2019 9:08am Nov 24, 2019 9:08am
Quoting Wavegarrick
Hi Guys. I have seen at least 5 members and could be more, grow from low impact to high impact members under Ata's thread. I am one of them. No denying. It is under these conditions that serious traders are allowed to grow and express their trading styles. Ata's thread gets alot of attention because of the way it is run. Thanks Ata. Forgiving is good karma and if traders are not willing to abide by it then so be it. You do not deserve to be in this thread. I have not been involved in this thread so much this past week because of personal circumstances,...
You sound to be going through quite a hard time man. Take care, and hope you stay strong in these tough times buddy.
Go with the flow
  • #98,300
  • Nov 24, 2019 11:41am Nov 24, 2019 11:41am
Quoting Ata-Turkoglu
{quote} Yes they keep saying that but first of all there is no such thing as "oversold/overbought". That term sometime works but often fails, especially inside strong trends. (In "share" markets it might work more often but not in forex markets). You will notice that "oversold" fanatics will always show up when market flows choppy or sideways. Most of the time lines reaching into RSI, Stochastics or whatsoever over-sold and over-bought zones means actually buy/sell even more. Again especially inside strong trends those concepts fail heavily, so...
Perfect video showing the fallacy of the RSI for the forex market although I suspect that the timing of the pair was chosen to magnify the effect of his statement.
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