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  • #101
  • Jul 1, 2019 2:28am Jul 1, 2019 2:28am
Quoting HighFive
Wow, no need for the abusive and rude reply Mbrown. I was asking a sensible question about your very serious allegations. With no proof I guess you are just peddling gossip and hearsay. Worthless.
Just ignore him - he is a loser. He is insulting other members to compensate his inabilities. ICM is fine. FPA is a good source for reviews and every broker with more than 200 reviews has some morons and naysayers giving bad reviews.

fun fact: JFD, which he fell in love with, has much worse reviews .. and is a much worse broker indeed. Got live accounts with them for years as well. And I WAS EARNING money with them, so I know what I am talking about.
  • #102
  • Jul 1, 2019 2:32am Jul 1, 2019 2:32am
Quoting mbrown
{quote} How many times do I have to write it? Like I wrote, you must be thick. Alleged!!! If you want proof with receipts, go to Forex Peace Army. I am certainly not going to cut and paste case by case because I would be here ALL week. Anyway, enough...my short post earlier wasn't designed to take this thread off-topic. If you want receipts and proof spent some time on FPA....that stands for 'Forex Peace Army' in case it didn't click.
Tbh I realised FPA was worthless as a resourse many many years ago, That is why I asked for provable facts and always will.
  • #103
  • Jul 1, 2019 2:37am Jul 1, 2019 2:37am
Quoting Drolph
{quote} Just ignore him - he is a loser. He is insulting other members to compensate his inabilities. ICM is fine. FPA is a good source for reviews and every broker with more than 200 reviews has some morons and naysayers giving bad reviews. fun fact: JFD, which he fell in love with, has much worse reviews .. and is a much worse broker indeed. Got live accounts with them for years as well. And I WAS EARNING money with them, so I know what I am talking about.
Thanks Drolph, I could tell he was that straight off. Just having a bit of fun. And thanks for the assurances about ICM.
  • #104
  • Jul 1, 2019 2:48am Jul 1, 2019 2:48am
I am certainly not referring to the FPA reviews, that is for sure.

Whatever Drolph. We'll take your word you know what you're talking about and that you are earning, just because you wrote it; I mean traders are not known for lying about trading prowess. The more they claim they are earning on forums, the more likely they are losing BIG in my experience!
  • #105
  • Jul 1, 2019 2:55am Jul 1, 2019 2:55am
Quoting mbrown
I am certainly not referring to the FPA reviews, that is for sure. Whatever Drolph. We'll take your word you know what you're talking about and that you are earning, just because you wrote it; I mean traders are not known for lying about trading prowess. The more they claim they are earning on forums, the more likely they are losing BIG in my experience!
Let me put it in your own word - DO SOME RESEARCH! I am not here, to post prove of my success over and over again.
  • #106
  • Jul 1, 2019 3:00am Jul 1, 2019 3:00am
Quoting Drolph
{quote} Let me put it in your own word - DO SOME RESEARCH! I am not here, to post prove of my success over and over again.

Anyone can provide your quality of proof, here you go - that is really my system...honest it is...it is really mine...please take my word for it because my ego really needs your approval, I live for your approval, my entire trading day consists of me seeking your approval because I am a winner:




No, it isn't my system by the way before the thick hold me to it.
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  • #107
  • Jul 1, 2019 3:14am Jul 1, 2019 3:14am
Quoting mbrown
{quote} Anyone can provide your quality of proof, here you go - that is really my system...honest it is...it is really mine...please take my word for it because my ego really needs your approval, I live for your approval, my entire trading day consists of me seeking your approval because I am a winner: No, it isn't my system by the way before the thick hold me to it. {image}
Quoting mbrown
{quote} Anyone can provide your quality of proof, here you go - that is really my system...honest it is...it is really mine...please take my word for it because my ego really needs your approval, I live for your approval, my entire trading day consists of me seeking your approval because I am a winner: No, it isn't my system by the way before the thick hold me to it. {image}
As you obviously do not know what to look at when identifying a successful system, you support my initial assumption: you are a loser. Thank you.

When you are trying to prove something, you have to do it right. The crap you have posted is a stupid demo wonder account. My systems prove they are real, got more withdrawal than deposit and work with a well known broker. But if you think they are not mine - search them. If I would simply quote something from somebody else, you would be able to so as well.

Or simply find something that has more withdrawal than deposit and a live history of at least two years.
  • #108
  • Jul 1, 2019 3:25am Jul 1, 2019 3:25am
Quoting Drolph
{quote} {quote} As you obviously do not know what to look at when identifying a successful system, you support my initial assumption: you are a loser. Thank you. When you are trying to prove something, you have to do it right. The crap you have posted is a stupid demo wonder account. My systems prove they are real, got more withdrawal than deposit and work with a well known broker. But if you think they are not mine - search them. If I would simply quote something from somebody else, you would be able to so as well. Or simply find something that...

You're absolutely right, I only code and sell them for a living.
  • #109
  • Jul 1, 2019 1:18pm Jul 1, 2019 1:18pm
I can just tell that I feel more secure with the European broker regulated by the FCA. But telling that ICM is shit without any proof? If you had proof you would post it. The conversation ends here. I haven't had problems with IC in 3 years and I will stick with them until there is the first problem that occurs.

After all, they are one of the most popular brokers and you believe FPA? Like bots are adding too many comments every day that you can find the same, copy-pasted on the other brokers, too. It is just what brokers used to do so they would get a reputation...

There is no need to insult anyone because of their choice of brokers. It must be some kind of complex.
If you want to see charts on different level, start listening to Madonna
  • #110
  • Jul 1, 2019 3:52pm Jul 1, 2019 3:52pm
It's the leverage war...in a couple of years 30:1 will be the retail maximum allowed everywhere...this will make all high leveraged strategies useless and will force retailers to create more performant algorithms.
Market Makers Tax Guy...
  • #111
  • Jul 1, 2019 4:04pm Jul 1, 2019 4:04pm
Quoting Quant-XR
It's the leverage war...in a couple of years 30:1 will be the retail maximum allowed everywhere...this will make all high leveraged strategies useless and will force retailers to create more performant algorithms.

If you can't trade using 1:30 leverage, it is not worth trading at all. You need some good amount to make decent profits(let's start with 1000$) and if you need 1:500 leverage, not worth. Unless you are going to play with 100$ and open half a lot on these accounts.
If you want to see charts on different level, start listening to Madonna
  • #112
  • Jul 2, 2019 7:29am Jul 2, 2019 7:29am
open a company in Australia with an Australian bank account and you will be able to trade with any regulated broker in Australia

or just trade with a broker that is regulated and offers lower levarge

if you are serious about trading, then you don't need high leverage
Don't Worry Be Happy
  • #113
  • Edited 1:08pm Jul 2, 2019 12:40pm | Edited 1:08pm
Quoting RulerEraser
{quote} If you can't trade using 1:30 leverage, it is not worth trading at all. You need some good amount to make decent profits(let's start with 1000$) and if you need 1:500 leverage, not worth. Unless you are going to play with 100$ and open half a lot on these accounts.

Due to my "complex" and need to point out BS wherever it appears, I feel the need to insult this complete and utter nonsense!!! Don't blame me, blame it on the bot!!!

There are more strategies than I have time to list that rely on high leverage especially the automated type. And no noob, I will not provide evidence since there's plenty on this website but then again bots might have posted them!!! Oops, there goes my complex again...

"If you can't make enough pips in the first 15 minutes of London open to live well, you can't trade"

"1 lot trading is enough for any trader to make a living, not worth trading if you use more"

"Robots never work, not worth trading if you need to use one"

" If you can't trade using 1:30 leverage, it is not worth trading at all."

I swear: these blanket statements of inexperience and UTTER foolishness will be the death of me. Oops...blame it on my complex!!!

Quoting Quant-XR
It's the leverage war...in a couple of years 30:1 will be the retail maximum allowed everywhere...this will make all high leveraged strategies useless and will force retailers to create more performant algorithms.

Everywhere is a very very large place.

There will always be 500:1 available somewhere IMHO. So the age of universal low leverage is a thing that is unlikely to happen as long as national sovereignty reign supreme.

However, I do think the age of the extremely effeminate trader has arrived by the look of some of these comments in here! Sorry...the complex!!!
  • #114
  • Jul 3, 2019 10:32am Jul 3, 2019 10:32am
One has to learn the market before trading, we can't sum up 7 billion persons on earth on one strategy or one leverage, or one "you can, or you can't" , but only the bigger picture will describe the details
  • #115
  • Jul 3, 2019 10:35am Jul 3, 2019 10:35am
Also i used to look for members with more posts to get credible information but even this is not a good method, people can be non-existent and still be successful traders, and members can have thousands of posts and be successful traders and share their knowledge with us, so my searching method wasn't credible lol
  • #116
  • Jul 5, 2019 10:22pm Jul 5, 2019 10:22pm
Quoting GodRa
Got a shocking and upsetting email today: {quote}
Very sad news
  • #117
  • Jul 5, 2019 10:23pm Jul 5, 2019 10:23pm
Quoting GodRa
Got a shocking and upsetting email today: {quote}
Very sad news
  • #118
  • Jul 16, 2019 11:00pm Jul 16, 2019 11:00pm
Quoting Quant-XR
It's the leverage war...in a couple of years 30:1 will be the retail maximum allowed everywhere...this will make all high leveraged strategies useless and will force retailers to create more performant algorithms.
Trading, in general, requires a sufficient amount of equity, to begin with. It's a business.

Question: Do you commence a business with only $100 or 50 or anything below that?

Answer: Of course not. With low capital, you'll not be able to meet ends meet. Do the maths and in the long-term, you might be doing so much better with a job instead. Nonetheless, those with low capital will not survive and are listed as degenerate gamblers by the brokers and regulators. I just couldn't see why on earth would anyone in the right mind wants to start trading with low capital, it doesn't make total sense unless you're utilizing the given leverage to "gamble" your way to "the top". As reinstated by a user, do you know the minimum required to trade Futures? You'll be surprised by the amount required. It's not your typical $200/500 as suggested by your FX broker... In addition, if anyone is serious and has a game plan to treat this as a form of business in the long-term, surely basic maths would have told them not to trade with low capital... Unless - back to phase 1 of our discussion, you're a degenerate gambler.
  • #119
  • Jul 17, 2019 4:56am Jul 17, 2019 4:56am
Quoting thegrimreape
{quote} As reinstated by a user, do you know the minimum required to trade Futures? You'll be surprised by the amount required. It's not your typical $200/500 as suggested by your FX broker...
Do you?

https://www.ampfutures.com/
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  • #120
  • Jul 17, 2019 10:53am Jul 17, 2019 10:53am
Quoting angus
{quote} Do you? https://www.ampfutures.com/ {image}
Perhaps the most significant FF post of 2019!
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