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  • #121
  • Jun 23, 2019 5:26am Jun 23, 2019 5:26am
Quoting VEEFX
I repeat, not ONE idiot since 2006 has shown me personally any proof of their long running account, openly or in private.
So you show your everyday. Yes, time for appointment, don't miss it.
  • #122
  • Jun 23, 2019 5:35am Jun 23, 2019 5:35am
Quoting Aussi
how many trading seminars you guys and gals have gone to , i have been to a few in my early days >>>>> did i learn any thing yes i did but over time you move onto something else
I've only been to one. A group from Sydney came up my way and put on a nice spread of food/drinks and I got dragged along by a mate who was interested. This was back in January this year.

It was very eye-opening and they talked a big game, but I've been around the block once or twice and my BS meter was in overdrive by the end of the meeting.
However, it did enough for me to make me want to start to do my own research on the Net and here I am nearly 6 months into my journey.
Empty your mind and let the market guide you
  • #123
  • Jun 23, 2019 5:53am Jun 23, 2019 5:53am
so far on this thread to day by people is a wealth of knowledge thank you
people leave, but this thread will go on for ever
  • #124
  • Jun 23, 2019 5:59am Jun 23, 2019 5:59am
Quoting Aussi
how many trading seminars you guys and gals have gone to , i have been to a few in my early days >>>>> did i learn any thing yes i did but over time you move onto something else
One, bucket shop seminar.
  • #125
  • Jun 23, 2019 6:06am Jun 23, 2019 6:06am
Quoting skyway
{quote} One, bucket shop seminar.
I recall a few blown accounts dedicated to the mofos at dailyfx.... lesson learnt. Never EVER join your broker's forum, hear their experts speak or interact with their account manager or "dedicated rep". I will go as far by saying.... never TALK to anyone in the trading industry. In my opinion, Hearing has a far more powerful effect on being manipulated compared to reading/typing.
Staying in my lane...
  • #126
  • Jun 23, 2019 6:08am Jun 23, 2019 6:08am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote}I do NOT want to continue being a manual trader for more than an hour to two max. My choice is a "supervised algo" route trading only one or two hours a day. Not sure if I will ever succeed but I would be damned if I ever give up on it so journey will continue until the last day of my target "quitting" date (chosen before I got into futures).
It's going to be difficult because of the restrictive small window.
  • #127
  • Jun 23, 2019 6:19am Jun 23, 2019 6:19am
Quoting skyway
{quote} It's going to be difficult because of the restrictive small window.
yep but possible. I will just trade manual for now and work on algo as and when I get time. It's 4:15am here in "Tuvalu" so time to crash on the beach :-)
Staying in my lane...
  • #128
  • Jun 23, 2019 7:36am Jun 23, 2019 7:36am
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} yep but possible. I will just trade manual for now and work on algo as and when I get time. It's 4:15am here in "Tuvalu" so time to crash on the beach :-)
I was been from Tuvalu once ... great traders there
POW!
  • #129
  • Jun 23, 2019 8:20am Jun 23, 2019 8:20am
Quoting fxprimate
{quote} I was been from Tuvalu once ... great traders there
Vee in Tuvalu, waiting for airplane
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  • #130
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:00am Jun 23, 2019 9:00am
I have been studying for some time the idea of "value" and how control line (middle line) and upper and lower value lines are important. I draw these manually "containing" most of the price action and allowing spikesand "excess price areas to be visible. Below is the big picture H4 with the lower M15 below it. The problem with the other thread was how we can know which target is appropriate from which to trade back. I would hypothesise that drawing value areas is a great way to make these determinations even more so that looking left for targets from the past. of course others are doing similar things with envelopes of different kinds and focusing on spikes through them as possibly indicated by TMA.

I like the simplicity of these three pretty much equidistant lines - find the control ( middle) and say upper or lower and then use that distance to zero in for the lower etc. Remember the line isn't an exact science but should contain most of the price action allowing excesses to show. Do you think these lines would have helped in one of those Herd trades?
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  • #131
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:14am Jun 23, 2019 9:14am
On a lighter note.... nice to be out of the Cooler again. Thanks to Aussi for his earlier supportive words to those randomly incarcerated due to the efforts of the Mooning Blue Mooner.
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  • #132
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:15am Jun 23, 2019 9:15am
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  • #133
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:25am Jun 23, 2019 9:25am
Quoting TopCover
I have been studying for some time the idea of "value" and how control line (middle line) and upper and lower value lines are important. I draw these manually "containing" most of the price action and allowing spikesand "excess price areas to be visible. Below is the big picture H4 with the lower M15 below it. The problem with the other thread was how we can know which target is appropriate from which to trade back. I would hypothesise that drawing value areas is a great way to make these determinations even more so that looking left for targets...
Since it is not exact science, then even if it work it is just coincidence -

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Only if there are 10 consecutive coincidences - time will tell
  • #134
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:33am Jun 23, 2019 9:33am
Quoting hilmy83
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDMORRRNINGGGGYOU CRAZY BASTARDS I'M HERE TO START A PROJECT OF LOVE A PROJECT WHERE I CAN CONNECT WITH RANDOM ASS PEOPLE ONLINE AND BE BESTIES FOREVER BUT TO HOOK YOU IN, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING... I'M A MASTER TRADER. I DONT TAKE TRADES UNLESS IT'S 98% OR MORE PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS. but george, i have few questions on your claims...hey george, can we discuss something on the strategy?..hey george good thread, but...hey george this is just like s/d trading at extremes to me, can you elaborate... YOU ARE WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGGG....

lol, you do sound like him:

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  • #135
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:34am Jun 23, 2019 9:34am
Quoting mixedbags
{quote} Since it is not exact science, then even if it work it is just coincidence - {image} Only if there are 10 consecutive coincidences - time will tell
I see the "next bit" of my chart like this - change of direction ( 3 new lines) and then a horizontal bit ( another 3 lines)

EDIT: That's the H4 chart
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  • #136
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:37am Jun 23, 2019 9:37am
Quoting hilmy83
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDMORRRNINGGGGYOU CRAZY BASTARDS I'M HERE TO START A PROJECT OF LOVE A PROJECT WHERE I CAN CONNECT WITH RANDOM ASS PEOPLE ONLINE AND BE BESTIES FOREVER BUT TO HOOK YOU IN, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING... I'M A MASTER TRADER. I DONT TAKE TRADES UNLESS IT'S 98% OR MORE PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS. but george, i have few questions on your claims...hey george, can we discuss something on the strategy?..hey george good thread, but...hey george this is just like s/d trading at extremes to me, can you elaborate... YOU ARE WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONGGG....
Love it, I am laughing like hell here I am at the bus station people looking at me crazy.
on a postive roll...
  • #137
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:39am Jun 23, 2019 9:39am
This has been an interesting turn of events hasn't it

Took me a shit ton of time to get through all of @George's thread ....only to see some of the older FF members start to get banned. And when I saw Veefx's response there, I then knew the end was near....and sure enough it was (sorta....depends on if you consider the only "Positive considersations posts ")


Ok...so my take, for what its worth

]1) Everything in that thread to me, sounded like a rehash of what Forexhard was saying, but with a 'lets change some names around' to call it something else. The addition of TMA was what made it different. Is it truely needed? Beats me, I have yet to try any of this.

2) Can you get to 95% (or in some claims 98-99%) ? IMHO - there exists a *slight* chance IF and only IF you are fortunate enough to not live in the U.S . The FIFO rules are what's screwing the US traders, and without a true hedge , there is no chance of being able to carry losing trades to what could be considered the next swing point.

Anyway -I'm done ranting.
  • #138
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:42am Jun 23, 2019 9:42am
Quoting TopCover
{quote} I see the "next bit" of my chart like this - change of direction ( 3 new lines) and then a horizontal bit ( another 3 lines) EDIT: That's the H4 chart {image}
Top Cover,

This looks a lot like Andrew's Pitchfork. There's been a lot of work here in FF surrounding that which may or may not be of value to you.

Just my 2cts.
  • #139
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:45am Jun 23, 2019 9:45am
Quoting almo
{quote} Top Cover, This looks a lot like Andrew's Pitchfork. There's been a lot of work here in FF surrounding that which may or may not be of value to you. Just my 2cts.
Thanks Almo - actually these the thoughts of Laurentiu Damir - “Price Action Breakdown” which there isn’t much about on FF. and I did get into it after a lot of study of Andrews Pitchfirking.

Cheers Almo
  • #140
  • Jun 23, 2019 9:46am Jun 23, 2019 9:46am
Quoting Rmg
{quote} Love it, I am laughing like hell here I am at the bus station people looking at me crazy.
haha . It's meant as a Sunday morning joke. Hope I don't get flamed by the master or his family
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