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  • #181
  • May 21, 2019 12:28pm May 21, 2019 12:28pm
C'mon a bit of sarcasm.. these forums are for entertainment and nobody should be taken seriously.
  • #182
  • Edited 1:06pm May 21, 2019 12:52pm | Edited 1:06pm
Quoting HeyYou
C'mon a bit of sarcasm.. these forums are for entertainment and nobody should be taken seriously.
I'm all for entertainment but in the the right context and you have poor judgement of context. Looking at your posts, you spend all your time treating this forum as a playground. Perhaps you are in the wrong place for "entertainment". I know you can't help yourself
  • #183
  • May 21, 2019 1:05pm May 21, 2019 1:05pm
Any amount is a good amount with good risk management, just boils down to how much doesnt emotionally affect when you get stopped out
  • #184
  • May 21, 2019 1:08pm May 21, 2019 1:08pm
Quoting EcoTrader
{quote} I'm all for entertainment but in the the right context and you have poor judgement of context. Looking at your posts, you spend all your time treating this forum as a playground. Perhaps you are in the wrong place for "entertainment"
gtfu lol
  • #185
  • May 21, 2019 1:09pm May 21, 2019 1:09pm
Quoting HeyYou
{quote} gtfu lol
I rest my case
  • #186
  • May 21, 2019 1:19pm May 21, 2019 1:19pm
k enough politics.. I was wondering... what about some music


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  • #187
  • May 21, 2019 4:33pm May 21, 2019 4:33pm
give me a like ba**ards.. I'm selecting the best dance here

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  • #188
  • May 21, 2019 5:27pm May 21, 2019 5:27pm

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  • #189
  • May 22, 2019 12:28am May 22, 2019 12:28am
Quoting HeyYou
k enough politics.. I was wondering... what about some music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgs9QUtWc3M
Now we know why you're better off alone
  • #190
  • May 22, 2019 1:26am May 22, 2019 1:26am
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  • #191
  • May 22, 2019 1:46am May 22, 2019 1:46am
Quoting HeyYou
C'mon a bit of sarcasm.. these forums are for entertainment and nobody should be taken seriously.
I agree with you when you state "these forums are for entertainment and nobody should be taken seriously". However, it seems that you take them seriously, cannot take a joke, and ignore everyone you don't agree with. On the other I never ignored anyone because I welcome all comments and ideas even if I don't agree with them.
  • #192
  • May 22, 2019 1:50am May 22, 2019 1:50am
Quoting Hutch
{quote} I agree with you when you state "these forums are for entertainment and nobody should be taken seriously". However, it seems that you take them seriously, cannot take a joke, and ignore everyone you don't agree with. On the other I never ignored anyone because I welcome all comments and ideas even if I don't agree with them.
That is true. sorry for the ignore... these forums drive me nuts lol
  • #193
  • May 22, 2019 3:53am May 22, 2019 3:53am
Quoting HeyYou
{quote} That is true. sorry for the ignore... these forums drive me nuts lol
I must say that ignoring is still better than getting involved in endless debates with obtuse people. it's a reality of trading forums that you find lots of people with black and white views... I guess the trick is to not get too used it

Anyways thank you hutch for giving me a good chance to reflect, you really saved me a lot of time.not kidding.
  • #194
  • May 22, 2019 7:42am May 22, 2019 7:42am
Quoting HeyYou
{quote} I must say that ignoring is still better than getting involved in endless debates with obtuse people. it's a reality of trading forums that you find lots of people with black and white views... I guess the trick is to not get too used it Anyways thank you hutch for giving me a good chance to reflect, you really saved me a lot of time.not kidding.
Never forget that FF is for traders helping other traders. In any case you don't have to debate with anyone.
  • #195
  • May 22, 2019 12:45pm May 22, 2019 12:45pm
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  • #196
  • May 22, 2019 1:27pm May 22, 2019 1:27pm
I can't remember how I voted. I know that most "retail" traders will lose money trading. Otoh, I know some of them will do well consistently and the best will probably be able to make >50% returns on a regular basis.

The question is only meaningful in relation to how one effects risk management, though. If you have a $100k account, how much of that will you put at risk? How much will be marginable? What kind of maximum drawdown will you allow? Etc etc.

In reality, you have to trade for a while to really know what kind of account size you need (to make a living, I'm assuming was the original intent of the question - which is also highly relative....). If you can't practice good risk management and profit consistently on a $10k account, you won't be able to do it on $100k or more. If you are profitable but allow large drawdowns, eventually you will be wiped out.

People I know who are daytrading stocks, futures, and options and deriving their primary income from that and living in the US all have accounts in the $250k - $xx million range.
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  • #197
  • May 24, 2019 12:40am May 24, 2019 12:40am
Quoting The Fool
I can't remember how I voted. People I know who are daytrading stocks, futures, and options and deriving their primary income from that and living in the US all have accounts in the $250k - $xx million range.

By the sound of it, is seems "NO"

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  • #198
  • May 24, 2019 2:02am May 24, 2019 2:02am
Quoting The Fool
I can't remember how I voted. I know that most "retail" traders will lose money trading. Otoh, I know some of them will do well consistently and the best will probably be able to make >50% returns on a regular basis. The question is only meaningful in relation to how one effects risk management, though. If you have a $100k account, how much of that will you put at risk? How much will be marginable? What kind of maximum drawdown will you allow? Etc etc. In reality, you have to trade for a while to really know what kind of account size you need (to...
I posted earlier that with the few trades I made last month my account equity increased by 7% despite a win rate of only 40%. The account size is not important; the only thing that count is money management. Because of the high leverage, trading forex is much easier for making or losing money but with proper money management you should be able to avoid large drawdowns and grow your account steadily. Some of my friends trade stocks with an account of $250,000+ but this is inadequate to make a living in my country since you need a net income of about $6,000 a month to live well while the average is now a little over $4,000 a month. Most people think that Americans are rich but this is not the case.

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  • #199
  • May 24, 2019 1:49pm May 24, 2019 1:49pm
Quoting Hutch
Because of the high leverage, trading forex is much easier for making or losing money
...there is better "leverage" available in options...it's built into the structure of the contracts and isn't something that you get to choose. Margin requirements are set by the exchanges. I know I am talking to an amateur trader when all they know anything about is trading fx...
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  • #200
  • May 24, 2019 10:51pm May 24, 2019 10:51pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote}...there is better "leverage" available in options...it's built into the structure of the contracts and isn't something that you get to choose. Margin requirements are set by the exchanges. I know I am talking to an amateur trader when all they know anything about is trading fx...
My post was about leverage not margin but I guess I have to educate you on margins. I know what I'm talking about when I state that leverage is way higher for forex than it's for trading stocks and options. I can find forex brokers with a leverage of 1:1000 but I never found a stock broker that offers that leverage. Can you? I have an account with E*TRADE since more than 15 years and my leverage is 1:2 and this is only because my account is substantial. This is why I was offered to purchase 2,000 share of Google at the IPO price of $85. If that wasn't the case my leverage would only be 1:1½ and that's it. You show your lack of knowledge when you state that "Margin requirements are set by the exchanges." Margin requirements are set by stock brokers as long as they follow the minimum requirements set by the financial industry regulatory authority. Exchanges can set higher margins but the majority follow the minimum margin rules otherwise they would lose customers. If, unlike me, you did not trade these three asset classes, stocks, options and warrants then I can only conclude that you're an amateur trader.

I know I am talking to a fool when he doesn't know the difference between leverage and margin
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