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  • #1,461
  • May 12, 2019 6:57pm May 12, 2019 6:57pm
Quoting Husky77
{quote} for me to be honest is all about mindset and one particular way to look at market. I tend to believe for most (including me) even if George will give all his indicators + exact settings we will still dont get it,at least for me i didnt had yet that AHA moment, cheer up


BEAUTIFULLY SUMMED UP SIR ! ! ! !

A BOUNDLESS MINDSET ,,,,
WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO START

Cheers
George
LOVE YOUR GAME WITH A PASSION ,,,,, WORK WITH A VISION ! ! ! ! !
  • #1,462
  • May 12, 2019 7:03pm May 12, 2019 7:03pm
nice thread .i always play with market manipulation zone .i am searching and requested so many times ...for manipulation indicator .i am attaching my earlier posted link please check and any master coder create one indicators (if my post against this thread than let me know i wil delete)i think this indicator similar to mm detector.i have no coding knowledge .

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12141658#post12141658

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12231672#post12231672
Say something meaningful or Silence!!
  • #1,463
  • May 12, 2019 7:12pm May 12, 2019 7:12pm
Quoting skyway
{quote} I don't call it manipulation. It's the direction of the order flow. When the direction is down and traders go long they lose vv. Direction of order flow changes regularly inside intraday price activity. The smaller the time frame the shorter this cycle of change. It is possible to write a code to capture this direction in real time. I am proposing this possibility, especially to coders. Btw I am not here to teach. Nor do I claim anything. Just sharing my 2cts since you ask.
What you are explaining is BASICS...I think most with actual real trading experience understand the flow of orders..liquidity...
Brokers A books and/or B books.

What you are missing is beyond the orderflow/market depth....of the traditional MM....

And since Steve has sat with George and seen many examples of this manipulation..HENCE Steves first post and this thread.
What you are missing is that you cant see the forest thru the trees... No im not discrediting you...Im simply pointing out the
truth...

Once one knows..thats it..Its as clear as water.

Now this thread can continue being bombarded with useless information such as darkstar and orderflow...FIBS...GANN...
Pivots etc etc etc,,,,,

All that your doing is diluting the effort of Steves work...

This thread is about manipulation...And until you can let go of your Ego and expand your thinking to accept that...
You will just continue to knock everyone as you do....

But actually I understand your bounded mindset,,, As i was once like you....
Can be tough to break free from...

Good Luck Skyway

Kevin
Markets are Mirrors,,Mastery of craft is mastery of self
  • #1,464
  • May 12, 2019 7:30pm May 12, 2019 7:30pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} What you are explaining is BASICS...I think most with actual real trading experience understand the flow of orders..liquidity... Brokers A books and/or B books. What you are missing is beyond the orderflow/market depth....of the traditional MM.... And since Steve has sat with George and seen many examples of this manipulation..HENCE Steves first post and this thread. What you are missing is that you cant see the forest thru the trees... No im not discrediting you...Im simply pointing out the truth... Once one knows..thats it..Its as clear...
if you allow me i can share my view..FIY as far i know it is called order block and smart money trap bull bear order or some time is occur by broker for stop hunt (specially when market participation low and volatility low.i am trading this system with harmonic pattern long time .

you can check my same view as mm detect .(no advertise only educational purpose any objection just let me know)

https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12234986#post12234986
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  • #1,465
  • May 12, 2019 7:37pm May 12, 2019 7:37pm
Quoting George AUS
{quote} A very good morning to u ,, YOUR MAJESTY ! ! ! ! YOUR QUOTE :::: the use of "filters". To me, a filter is an "indicator" -- i.e. an external computation performed by software to help highlight some aspect(s YOU ARE ,,,,, 100% WRONG ,,, Cheers George
And good morning to you, too, @George.

With regards to addressing me as "Your Majesty", I also answer to Chief and Commander, in case those are easier to type.

"Your Majesty", Chief, Commander -- those are a far cry from how I'm used to be being addressed. Usually it's -- "hey, you!", or "oh, it's you again".

Quote
YOU ARE ,,,,, 100% WRONG
Well -- that would be a first. And I can say that with 100% confidence (since my wife isn't around right now to prove otherwise.)...
  • #1,466
  • May 12, 2019 7:48pm May 12, 2019 7:48pm
Quoting classy
{quote} if you allow me i can share my view..FIY as far i know it is called order block and smart money trap bull bear order or some time is occur by broker for stop hunt (specially when market participation low and volatility low.i am trading this system with harmonic pattern long time . you can check my same view as mm detect .(no advertise only educational purpose any objection just let me know) https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12234986#post12234986

This is not my thread but i think Of course share !

Another view on MM would be great in my books .
Markets are Mirrors,,Mastery of craft is mastery of self
  • #1,467
  • Edited 8:11pm May 12, 2019 7:56pm | Edited 8:11pm
Quoting classy
{quote} if you allow me i can share my view..FIY as far i know it is called order block and smart money trap bull bear order or some time is occur by broker for stop hunt (specially when market participation low and volatility low.i am trading this system with harmonic pattern long time . you can check my same view as mm detect .(no advertise only educational purpose any objection just let me know) https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=12234986#post12234986
Hey @classy -- I'm in information overload right now, so I can't comment on your methodology.

However, you recently uploaded a video. I hope you don't mind that I'm re-posting it. I could listen to it all day -- the hell with forex...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM
  • #1,468
  • May 12, 2019 8:25pm May 12, 2019 8:25pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} This is not my thread but i think Of course share ! Another view on MM would be great in my books .

Frankly-- I think you owe the Op of the thread and skyway an apology .... Your starting to piss me off.... now go and ban me .. dont give a sh1t
Live today like theres no tomorrow-- Prioritize like you will die today
  • #1,469
  • May 12, 2019 8:30pm May 12, 2019 8:30pm
Quoting iamsovereign
{quote} Frankly-- I think you owe the Op of the thread and skyway an apology .... Your starting to piss me off.... now go and ban me .. dont give a sh1t
@iamsovereign -- thanks.

No apologies necessary -- ever. I've more than gotten my money's worth.

All I can say is if someone can continue carrying on after listening to the video I posted in #1474, then they have no soul.
  • #1,470
  • Edited 8:54pm May 12, 2019 8:41pm | Edited 8:54pm
Quoting bluesteele
{quote} The world's largest market...but no manipulation.. hahahaha ..... Sounds like a dreamworld to.think.
There's only one thing over which I disagree with you. What we call the forex market is not the world's largest market. It's the world's largest bucket shop. It's not a market at all. When it comes to forex, supply demand, support resistance, auction market theory.... are all BS (However, I'm aware some traders might be profitable trading those).
  • #1,471
  • May 12, 2019 9:07pm May 12, 2019 9:07pm
Quoting skyway
{quote} Ofc it's all bs. That explains why all those indicators written based on bs will never work. Forex market is indeed one giant bucket shop. If you traded in one of those bucket shops in the 80-90s when there's us dollar deutsche mark you will know that.
futures has a centralized exchange making mm algorithm more clearly defined. I'm now convinced the algorithm has ADR in it's formula as well.
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  • #1,472
  • May 12, 2019 9:18pm May 12, 2019 9:18pm
Quoting iamsovereign
{quote} Frankly-- I think you owe the Op of the thread and skyway an apology .... Your starting to piss me off.... now go and ban me .. dont give a sh1t
Thank you for your opinion !!!

We all have one .and we are all entitled to share....

Sorry I'm starting to pissed you off.
Wasn't my intention to piss off you IMsoverign ......or anyone else.

Take it as you will....

Cheers
Blue
Markets are Mirrors,,Mastery of craft is mastery of self
  • #1,473
  • May 12, 2019 9:41pm May 12, 2019 9:41pm
Quoting Pip-Miner
{quote} futures has a centralized exchange making mm algorithm more clearly defined. I'm now convinced the algorithm has ADR in it's formula as well. {file}
@Pip-Miner -- please excuse the rookie question -- but how does the ADR prepare you for an upcoming spike? Or do you only open new positions after a spike has occurred (i.e. after the MM has shown its hand)?

I mean, I think I understand how to use ADR in-between spikes while the MM is luring traders. If you know a spike is coming, but not when, then how does the ADR help in your decision making? Or, do you

(a) at first ignore the possibility of a spike
(b) use the ADR to determine whether it's a good point to enter
(c) rely on other clues for a potential, upcoming spike

I guess what I don't get is that a spike is immune to the ADR -- it doesn't care. So why is the ADR so important?

Thanks...
  • #1,474
  • May 12, 2019 9:48pm May 12, 2019 9:48pm
thanks for the indi. easy to spot snr
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  • #1,475
  • May 12, 2019 9:55pm May 12, 2019 9:55pm
Quoting vijiragavan
thanks for the indi. easy to spot snr
@vijiragavan -- what's "snr"? Could you explain with a screen shot?
  • #1,476
  • Edited 10:30pm May 12, 2019 10:02pm | Edited 10:30pm
Quoting iamsovereign
{quote} Frankly-- I think you owe the Op of the thread and skyway an apology .... Your starting to piss me off.... now go and ban me .. dont give a sh1t

No no one owes you or anyone else an apology. It’s an open forum. Different opinions.
  • #1,477
  • Edited 10:35pm May 12, 2019 10:16pm | Edited 10:35pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} No no one owes you an apology. It’s an open forum. Different opinions.

I would pay more attention to detail if I were a student of the big G......... I personally did not ask for an apology. nor do I need one.

@ bluesteele -- its IAMsovereign ............... detail guys ..... big G would not approve...... and you talk about ego.... IALMAO

edit--@moodybot I see you changed the original ..... LMAO... you really are not worth the time. look at the original quote.
LOL- detail grasshopper

so sad that good forums go bad.
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  • #1,478
  • May 12, 2019 10:20pm May 12, 2019 10:20pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @Pip-Miner -- please excuse the rookie question -- but how does the ADR prepare you for an upcoming spike? Or do you only open new positions after a spike has occurred (i.e. after the MM has shown its hand)? I mean, I think I understand how to use ADR in-between spikes while the MM is luring traders. If you know a spike is coming, but not when, then how does the ADR help in your decision making? Or, do you (a) at first ignore the possibility of a spike (b) use the ADR to determine whether it's a good point to enter (c) rely on other clues...
-Helpful for setting stop loss and take profits
-estimating the high and low for the day
-MM Target points, liquidity points during the journey.
-If the ADR travelling distance for the day is met a reversal likely as mm target points during the journey have been met.
  • #1,479
  • May 12, 2019 11:00pm May 12, 2019 11:00pm
Quoting iamsovereign
{quote} I would pay more attention to detail if I were a student of the big G......... I personally did not ask for an apology. nor do I need one. @ bluesteele -- its IAMsovereign ............... detail guys ..... big G would not approve...... and you talk about ego.... IALMAO edit--@moodybot I see you changed the original ..... LMAO... you really are not worth the time. look at the original quote. LOL- detail grasshopper so sad that good forums go bad.

Dont worry Sir Soverign.... There was a reason I spelled your name the way i did.
Its called RESPECT.

So sorry no need for me to spell your name correctly..

You still pissed off that you were incorrect about George being commercial ?

Thought so.... guess your DETAILS were a tad off !

Now I apologize to Steve the OP for these complete distractions and bullshit from ImSovern

Please feel free to minimize my posts Steve as this has nothing to do with this thread,,,

IMsovereign is only here to bicker and cause probems...

IMS says So sorry that good forums go bad....HAHA Your the one IMS that is here disrupting some
perfectly good discussions.. Perhaps have a peek in a mirror


You know IMsovereign if you could put your ego aside perhaps George could help you out.

I sense that you are seeking some sort of help...

Cheers

Blue
Markets are Mirrors,,Mastery of craft is mastery of self
  • #1,480
  • May 12, 2019 11:06pm May 12, 2019 11:06pm
Quoting moodybot
{quote} No no one owes you an apology. It’s an open forum. Different opinions.
@moodybot -- you know better. There's a difference between taking what someone says "seriously" vs "literally".

It was his way of letting me know he appreciates the thread and wished we could get past the sniping. And wasn't my response clear enough? I think I said "No apologies necessary", right?

@bluesteele is a big boy -- this isn't his first rodeo and I think he's already responded. Why stick your nose it in? Now we have to trudge through an exchange of immature posts before getting back to the main topic.

To be honest, like most everyone else I find the drama and bickering entertaining -- much more interesting than staring at a candle wick fluctuating up and down. However, someone has to play the role of grownup -- and as the OP I guess that task falls on me. Oh well...

Damn -- I don't get it with you people. Are you like this in real-life or just around fellow traders? Just as it seemed as though things could get interesting, we go back to kindergarten.

@moodybot -- back on @George's thread when a naysayer said something you didn't like you would escort them to the door. You didn't come to their defense with "It’s an open forum. Different opinions." What's with that?

@moodybot -- though it's hard to imagine it could get any better, I'm working on adding some additional features to your popular "rock on a string indicator". Do you think we can stay focused on that?
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