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  • #4,001
  • Apr 23, 2019 9:21am Apr 23, 2019 9:21am
Quoting trancemitter
{quote} An example of what I meant in the quoted post above, in the screenshot you can see the actual DD being around 17 Euro and the trade still open waiting to be recovered, while if a trade would've been opened only after the market started to go down (from Recovery level 5 to level 4), the BE would've been only 12 pips away and some good the profit could've been made 15 pips away from the recovery trade. The total DD would've been only about 8 Euro with the trade closed in profit. With a more aggressive set like 33 a trade can be closed even...
Hi Trancemitter

Yes, I understand
This condition is in a state of Pause, the problem is that the current condition has not yet had an auto pause release by checking the trend has changed.
(I try for next version)
Temporary solution, if you are in front of a computer, you can do Disable Pause or change the Grid_Release parameter.

** Note: Setfile 33, works after Grid_Release is active. If it isn't already used, use Multiplication 99
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #4,002
  • Apr 24, 2019 8:36pm Apr 24, 2019 8:36pm
Mrg, what magic number does V1.10 manual except?
It can be blank and other numbers?
is "0" okay (I've used 0 and it closes trades but doesn't seem to add trades to initiate martingal)
  • #4,003
  • Apr 26, 2019 2:57am Apr 26, 2019 2:57am
Quoting Anpar
{quote} Bingo!
Hello Anpar,

could you attach a sample to use mrg with the trend, please? i have tried the default manual but it does not create the grid.

thanks
  • #4,004
  • Apr 26, 2019 5:53am Apr 26, 2019 5:53am
Quoting fabio.g
{quote} Hello Anpar, could you attach a sample to use mrg with the trend, please? i have tried the default manual but it does not create the grid. thanks
Hi fabio, do you mind attaching your set file?
  • #4,005
  • Apr 26, 2019 11:14am Apr 26, 2019 11:14am
I am running it on 33 setfile with 25% equitystoploss ore 25% max DD and close all and have gotten hit once in 6 weeks and still up 30% this month even with a stoploss hit i think over time this will profit nicely because the 33 setfile is a good trader nearly in much DD i have just started in on a live cent with same amount as this one and that is up 14% now in some days of trading....
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Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
  • #4,006
  • Apr 26, 2019 4:42pm Apr 26, 2019 4:42pm
I've been testing and trading the micro EAs for the past 6 months, along with a number of other Marti-grid traders. One thing I can say, regardless of the EA, if one trades with the trend and close trade sequences when the trend changes, one can have success. With that said, I find Mrg's EA, the best of the bunch due to the amount of options one has at his/her disposal.

When they say, "trend is your friend", with this EA, this couldn't be more true. I've concluded that the only way I can trade a marti-grid EA and in particular micro, is based on my manual trend system (it's not really a system, just price action and a simple MA). One reason, I decided to look into a marti trader is due to the ever shrinking ranges of forex pairs, it is really hard to pull money out of this market, without scaling multiple position into the direction of the trend, unless you are very good at scalping, which I'm not.

Micro, allows you to build position, by starting with smaller positions and increasing your position size as your trade goes against the direction of your trend, with the hope that at some point the market will resume again in the direction of your prevailing trend. For me these trends last anywhere between 1 to 4 days, which allows me enough time to get in and out of these trends without major risk. The reason for this, is that with micro, your largest lot size is always going to be at the point where a trend might change, which in my mind limits my losses. Even with a trend change, if you only trade one position or sequence per trend, in 90% of the cases, you will still make a profit or come out with minimum losses. My success rate at the start of a new trend, is very high, therefore, even if I only take one sequence of trades per trend change, I believe I can make a good monthly income.

Based on trading Micro manually, I haven't had a losing week in the past 3 months, not one. Will this last, I'm not sure, but I can pull money out of pairs that only move 40 pips a day such as the of the majority of the CHF crosses , it just doesn't matter (but I don't like CND pairs, even though I'm Canadian).

For me, I'm done trading Micro on full auto, I have set files that can make money, but in the end, I'm a manual trader by nature and as a full time trader, I can't deal with the high drawdown full auto presents. As stated before, Micro is a great trade manager, though I wish, it could trade indexes, gold and minor crosses like EURTRY etc., these instruments produce great trends, but I use other marti's to trade these. If you have a manual set-up, but are unsure of TP/SL, I believe Micro will help you to remove a lot of the emotion out of your trading. By using Micro, I know how much money I can make on every single trade and it's a hard dollar number (I don't deal in percentages, need to pay the mortgage) it can be as low as 10 dollars per trade or up to $500. I can and will trade up to 5 to 10 pairs per day regardless of correlation (Max grid per sequence of trade is around 8 to 10), as all pairs move differently and I don't know which pair will hit or result in a trend change. I don't care about win percentages, just dollars at the end of the day and trading Micro manually allows me to make money.
  • #4,007
  • Apr 27, 2019 3:25pm Apr 27, 2019 3:25pm
You guys just test out settings that bring quick big gaines and that close in profit usually long before serius DD and set a equity stoploss ore use the max DD feature and set it to close all at 20-25%DD.Like my example have been hit once in 6 weeks and recovered that hit within 7-8 trading days,The set i use only opens 3 possisions and then pauses to wait for confitmation of reversal and then opens some big lots.Doesnt work everytime,but 98% of times and thoose other 2% is when your max dd is hit.
Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
  • #4,008
  • Apr 27, 2019 6:13pm Apr 27, 2019 6:13pm
Quoting FXsniper111
You guys just test out settings that bring quick big gaines and that close in profit usually long before serius DD and set a equity stoploss ore use the max DD feature and set it to close all at 20-25%DD.Like my example have been hit once in 6 weeks and recovered that hit within 7-8 trading days,The set i use only opens 3 possisions and then pauses to wait for confitmation of reversal and then opens some big lots.Doesnt work everytime,but 98% of times and thoose other 2% is when your max dd is hit.
You use HR33 setfile with close all at 20%DD, no other modifications?
How many pairs do you trade,
  • #4,009
  • Apr 28, 2019 2:58am Apr 28, 2019 2:58am
i have both dd ocking and hedge activated, the main challenge os to find the rigjr point to activate the two of them.

so far i found that hedge works a bit different from what i expected or as i use it in other system, i would say it is a good way to earn some extra pips.

dd locking more sofisticated, but crucial to find the proper settings for your trading style and risk taking..

i am trying the Anpar way but i cannot seem to find a peoper set to build a grid
  • #4,010
  • Apr 28, 2019 3:46am Apr 28, 2019 3:46am
Hi Anpar

When you position build manually do you open a trade manually say 0.01, then when you open more positions do you open them as 0.01 as well and do the ea manage all the open 0.01 trades on the same chart?

Cheers
  • #4,011
  • Apr 28, 2019 6:51am Apr 28, 2019 6:51am
Quoting Anpar
...I use other marti's to trade these...
Hi Anpar,
can you suggest others EA,pls?

Thanks
  • #4,012
  • Apr 28, 2019 6:55am Apr 28, 2019 6:55am
Hi mrgmrg,
can you help us to understand why you have lost in the last days?
I think If you explain in which pairs you have lost and why, we can help us to optimize our set file.

Because for example I use your V.10 with set 33 and with 4 pairs and I don't lost money and I think is the same of your Micro Martingale 10

Do you have close the position on manual mode?

Thanks
  • #4,013
  • Apr 28, 2019 7:14am Apr 28, 2019 7:14am
Quoting len82
Hi Anpar When you position build manually do you open a trade manually say 0.01, then when you open more positions do you open them as 0.01 as well and do the ea manage all the open 0.01 trades on the same chart? Cheers
Hi len,

I open the first trade manually and then let the EA handle the trades based on marti_multiplicaion set to 99.
  • #4,014
  • Apr 28, 2019 9:52am Apr 28, 2019 9:52am
Quoting Anpar
{quote} Hi len, I open the first trade manually and then let the EA handle the trades based on marti_multiplicaion set to 99.
so Anpar you don't ise any other settings
  • #4,015
  • Apr 28, 2019 10:04am Apr 28, 2019 10:04am
Quoting Johannes7
{quote} You use HR33 setfile with close all at 20%DD, no other modifications? How many pairs do you trade,
I wont tell you the exact settings because if we use same broker the broker may ...ck up ore trading with spreads and..it if we become many with same settings i dont say they will do that,but why risk it.I have widen gridspace some and increased margin% of auto MM a little to make quicker gains also i have the MACD in play and i trade the 3 most traded pairs.And i have close all somewhere between 20 and 25% and with the one hit i had it was at 25% and it bailed at 19% so take into action that it will close some 4-7% below what its set to.Try it all on demo before going live and you will find the best settings for you.
Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
  • #4,016
  • Apr 28, 2019 1:20pm Apr 28, 2019 1:20pm
Quoting fabio.g
{quote} so Anpar you don't ise any other settings
Grid set to 5 - 12 depending on the pair and the normal profit targets. The thing is profit targets are always going to be impacted by position size and this is something you need to play with based on account size.
  • #4,017
  • Apr 29, 2019 3:16pm Apr 29, 2019 3:16pm
Quoting Anpar
I've been testing and trading the micro EAs for the past 6 months, along with a number of other Marti-grid traders. One thing I can say, regardless of the EA, if one trades with the trend and close trade sequences when the trend changes, one can have success. With that said, I find Mrg's EA, the best of the bunch due to the amount of options one has at his/her disposal. When they say, "trend is your friend", with this EA, this couldn't be more true. I've concluded that the only way I can trade a marti-grid EA and in particular micro, is based on...

Please sir, can you share these set files.... Thank you.
  • #4,018
  • Apr 30, 2019 7:46am Apr 30, 2019 7:46am
Quoting FXsniper111
{quote} I wont tell you the exact settings because if we use same broker the broker may ...ck up ore trading with spreads and..it if we become many with same settings i dont say they will do that,but why risk it.I have widen gridspace some and increased margin% of auto MM a little to make quicker gains also i have the MACD in play and i trade the 3 most traded pairs.And i have close all somewhere between 20 and 25% and with the one hit i had it was at 25% and it bailed at 19% so take into action that it will close some...
I dont think we're using same broker anyway. I'm using ECN broker who get commission on lot size and not if winning or losing. It's alright if you dont won't to share setfile.
  • #4,019
  • Apr 30, 2019 2:05pm Apr 30, 2019 2:05pm
Quoting Johannes7
{quote} I dont think we're using same broker anyway. I'm using ECN broker who get commission on lot size and not if winning or losing. It's alright if you dont won't to share setfile.
I trade UJ,AU and EU i skipped Gu after the equity hit because that pair moves more than AU and EU.I am also testing version 9 at the monent with even higher margin i have it at 0.6% on autolots with pretty much standard detalils because version 9 with signal at 0.1 is such a greate trader,but not using GU on that eihter because GU it bahaves differently than the others not in a good way...I have equity stop on that also.so if that one is producing more profit and not hits equity stop to often i am to go with that one on my live account instead.I am not trading Micro live this week because of the FOMC tomorrow and NFP on Friday.I think FOMC tomorrow will be a huuuge mover because its a thin market do to many countrys around the world have holliday.And even you use ECN account doesnt mean that the broker isnt trading against you because they all do.
Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
  • #4,020
  • Apr 30, 2019 6:44pm Apr 30, 2019 6:44pm
Quoting FXsniper111
{quote} I trade UJ,AU and EU i skipped Gu after the equity hit because that pair moves more than AU and EU.I am also testing version 9 at the monent with even higher margin i have it at 0.6% on autolots with pretty much standard detalils because version 9 with signal at 0.1 is such a greate trader,but not using GU on that eihter because GU it bahaves differently than the others not in a good way...I have equity stop on that also.so if that one is producing more profit and not hits equity stop to often i am to go with that one on my live...
Thanks FXsniper. My experience with Version 9 was also very good and I'll go back with some Demo testing.
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