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  • #3,981
  • Apr 17, 2019 11:33am Apr 17, 2019 11:33am
Hi Mrgmrg

I have noticed this week trading Eur/Aus that the sequence goes .01 .02 .03, pause then .06 and .07 opens up almost the exact same place then proceeds with the grid .08 and so on. Why .06 and .07 open up 1 pip away from each other?

Cheers
  • #3,982
  • Apr 18, 2019 2:17am Apr 18, 2019 2:17am
Quoting len82
Hi Mrgmrg I have noticed this week trading Eur/Aus that the sequence goes .01 .02 .03, pause then .06 and .07 opens up almost the exact same place then proceeds with the grid .08 and so on. Why .06 and .07 open up 1 pip away from each other? Cheers
Hi Len

I've explained a few times about that
Okay, I'm trying to explain again.
Martingale EA is different from martingale in general.
For example with Grid 10
Grid 1 in the price range - 10 to 20 pips
Grid 2 in the price range of -20 to 30 pips
Grid 6 in the price range - 60 to 70 pips
Grid 7 in the price range of -70 to 80 pips
etc.
In your case (if Grid = 10), then:
Grid 6 in the price range of -60 to 70 pips
Grid 7 in the price range of -70 to 80 pips
It is possible to have a difference of 1- pips or even the same, it can happen if Grid_Time_Minute has been reached

** The grid occurs almost 90% at the end of the M1 candle
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,983
  • Apr 19, 2019 3:28am Apr 19, 2019 3:28am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Hi Len I've explained a few times about that Okay, I'm trying to explain again. Martingale EA is different from martingale in general. For example with Grid 10 Grid 1 in the price range - 10 to 20 pips Grid 2 in the price range of -20 to 30 pips Grid 6 in the price range - 60 to 70 pips Grid 7 in the price range of -70 to 80 pips etc. In your case (if Grid = 10), then: Grid 6 in the price range of -60 to 70 pips Grid 7 in the price range of -70 to 80 pips It is possible to have a difference of 1- pips or even the same, it can happen if Grid_Time_Minute...
hi dear mrg
for keygen or not active expert what we do??
thanks
  • #3,984
  • Apr 19, 2019 7:54am Apr 19, 2019 7:54am
Quoting mohsenfx
{quote} hi dear mrg for keygen or not active expert what we do?? thanks
I have uploaded it for an extension of the expiration date for the Demo account
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,985
  • Edited 8:44am Apr 19, 2019 8:34am | Edited 8:44am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} I have uploaded it for an extension of the expiration date for the Demo account
Thanks.
This new to when have date?
  • #3,986
  • Apr 20, 2019 2:37am Apr 20, 2019 2:37am
Here's another example of the Live Test results with some Real Cent accounts, with different parameter settings
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margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,987
  • Apr 20, 2019 8:54pm Apr 20, 2019 8:54pm
Quoting mrgmrg
Here's another example of the Live Test results with some Real Cent accounts, with different parameter settings {image} {image} {image} {image}
The last one looks very impressive. Which version are you running and with how many pairs?
  • #3,988
  • Apr 20, 2019 9:55pm Apr 20, 2019 9:55pm
Quoting Johannes7
{quote} The last one looks very impressive. Which version are you running and with how many pairs?
Hi Jo

The first image, only 1 EU Pair. Others use 4 pairs (EU, GU, EJ / EJ)
From the examples above, the results are not good because I still often go out of town so I don't have enough control.

Settings using High Risk on VPS, monitoring using Remotedktoptop mobile phone is only for Pause / Release, but focus on ECN accounts (I don't show)

By the way, everything is relatively safe even though sometimes DD reaches 30-40%
Actually the Cent account is quite convenient because the capital is relatively small, it's flexible using parameter settings.

Rgds
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,989
  • Apr 21, 2019 12:52am Apr 21, 2019 12:52am
In this GU setting, there should be no close with loss.

But this happens on a Live account, Why?

When sending a Close command, then spreads widen so that the Close position with the price has moved up, then a loss occurs.
This case does not occur on the backtest.
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  • #3,990
  • Apr 21, 2019 7:09am Apr 21, 2019 7:09am
Quoting mrgmrg
In this GU setting, there should be no close with loss. But this happens on a Live account, Why? When sending a Close command, then spreads widen so that the Close position with the price has moved up, then a loss occurs. This case does not occur on the backtest. {image}
guess it is normal, in backtest execution is immediate, spread is fixed, that is why i use to add a full pip to the avarage spread on my live to account of spread differences as much as possible
  • #3,991
  • Apr 21, 2019 8:35am Apr 21, 2019 8:35am
Quoting mrgmrg
{quote} Hi Jo The first image, only 1 EU Pair. Others use 4 pairs (EU, GU, EJ / EJ) From the examples above, the results are not good because I still often go out of town so I don't have enough control. Settings using High Risk on VPS, monitoring using Remotedktoptop mobile phone is only for Pause / Release, but focus on ECN accounts (I don't show) By the way, everything is relatively safe even though sometimes DD reaches 30-40% Actually the Cent account is quite convenient because the capital is relatively small, it's flexible using parameter settings....
4 pairs are EU, GU,EJ /EJ?
  • #3,992
  • Apr 21, 2019 8:38am Apr 21, 2019 8:38am
Quoting Johannes7
{quote} 4 pairs are EU, GU,EJ /EJ?
Sorry EU, GU, EJ r/ UJ
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,993
  • Apr 22, 2019 10:20am Apr 22, 2019 10:20am
Quoting Anpar
{quote} Vacationing in Brazil, enjoying life. I haven't seen you post any results yet? Oh, right, you are waiting for folks to fail, one of those. GL, with that!
Hey bro, that's totally false. Anyways youre entitled to your opinion.
  • #3,994
  • Apr 23, 2019 4:41am Apr 23, 2019 4:41am
Great test results and negative on real account. I'm sorry for the bad news
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  • #3,995
  • Apr 23, 2019 5:44am Apr 23, 2019 5:44am
Quoting arteks
Great test results and negative on real account. I'm sorry for the bad news {image}
Hi Arteks

1. Why are Demo and Live different?
2. GU with SL 10 pips is too short
3. What do you use EA for Live? (When viewed from history, not from Micro Martingale V1_10)

Rgds
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,996
  • Apr 23, 2019 7:35am Apr 23, 2019 7:35am
Quoting arteks
Great test results and negative on real account. I'm sorry for the bad news {image}
This is not mrg, mrg do not use stoploss... It martingales along grids ..
  • #3,997
  • Apr 23, 2019 7:38am Apr 23, 2019 7:38am
Quoting jokhiku
{quote} This is not mrg, mrg do not use stoploss... It martingales along grids ..
It can also be with SL, but Comment has its contents (not blank)
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #3,998
  • Apr 23, 2019 8:12am Apr 23, 2019 8:12am
Hi, mrgmrg and Colleagues I do not want to be misunderstood. I like the robotic of mrg, watching them for a long time - not just mrg.v10 but SpeedSkalper, MRG Revo pawer and Joos.... The question is why the test results are super and real-time no. How to improve or what brokers do to confuse them. Or simply their anti-robots are better. If so, we will ,not stop here if not what we do ???
  • #3,999
  • Apr 23, 2019 8:23am Apr 23, 2019 8:23am
Quoting arteks
Hi, mrgmrg and Colleagues I do not want to be misunderstood. I like the robotic of mrg, watching them for a long time - not just mrg.v10 but SpeedSkalper, MRG Revo pawer and Joos.... The question is why the test results are super and real-time no. How to improve or what brokers do to confuse them. Or simply their anti-robots are better. If so, we will ,not stop here if not what we do ???
Hi Arteks

Ok clear
1. About SpeedScalper, it really depends on speed candle, spreads and slippage. Maybe your broker has a lot of different Demo Slipage and Real accounts
2. About Revo, the conditions are the same, depending on Spreads and Slippage, then in conditions of high fluctuations sometime the results are negative, especially for coross pairs.
3. Then Micro Martingale appeared, the result of the development of Revo. But Micro_Martingale can also be run with the Revo setting only slightly different.
4. This EA target, trading in any condition even if the position is misguided, the expectation will be profit, maybe it is not perfect, it needs continuous development.

Rgds
margiyono61 gmail com, Telegr @Margiyono
  • #4,000
  • Edited 9:54am Apr 23, 2019 9:07am | Edited 9:54am
Quoting trancemitter
{quote} A suggestion for the Pause option which I believe it can improve DD and speed up recovery is to use a "dynamic" release to be used only when the market shows signs of reversal instead of a fixed release (level 6 of the grid as it is in your example). Let's take this example: you open a 0.10 buy trade on EURUSD at 1.13500 (to simplify the calcs let's assume the value of 1 pip is 1 USD) and you have a grid set at 10 pips but the market goes against you for 50 pips in the next few hours with no significant pullbacks. With the current settings...
An example of what I meant in the quoted post above, in the screenshot you can see the actual DD being around 17 Euro and the trade still open waiting to be recovered, while if a trade would've been opened only after the market started to go down (from Recovery level 5 to level 4), the BE would've been only 12 pips away and some good profit could've been made 15 pips away from the recovery trade. The total DD would've been only about 8 Euro with the trade closed in profit. With a more aggressive set like 33 a trade can be closed even faster.
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