Hi guys and especially Amundo 
George is of course right - they are everywhere in the financial markets! This is M15 SUGAR 
George is of course right - they are everywhere in the financial markets! This is M15 SUGAR 
My last post of this lot - promise!
Please look at the three lines I have applied to my last chart of Cotton M15. You can see the lines show the point where the reversal is happening after the cleanout. These lines can be drawn in advance using the other reference points around the herd area etc. Monday morning should see this one going down..... like I said earlier the Cotton needs pickin'......
I believe the overhangs of the lines are "excess price areas."
Please look at the three lines I have applied to my last chart of Cotton M15. You can see the lines show the point where the reversal is happening after the cleanout. These lines can be drawn in advance using the other reference points around the herd area etc. Monday morning should see this one going down..... like I said earlier the Cotton needs pickin'......
I believe the overhangs of the lines are "excess price areas."
My last post of this lot - promise!
Is that an Action/Reaction set you got going there?
"When the facts change, I change my mind"
Hellooo famlay and Amundo!
Great to see you guys still working with each other and achieving a better understanding of what George so kindly and selflessly gave to us.
I was saddened to see the thread frozen, as it was a great experience interacting with other traders and being part of the family. In no way shape or form do I hold that against George as I can only imagine the amount of traders that must have hounded him about his theories and all the lazy ones who wanted a quick fix from him.
I feel I might have missed the biggest opportunity by not having a Skype chat with him as I felt I was not ready to approach him at the time (even if that would have meant I walked away with my head in my hands by realizing how much I did not know). Like many have been there from the start of the thread but felt I had to put work in before I even thought of speaking to the master himself but by then I was too late, because there is a tendency for me to over analyze and maybe over complicate things.
HOWEVER he left us with all the inspiration and knowledge that is required to succeed in this game as well as a sense of community that has even carried over to this thread which made the journey alot more interesting.
STUDY STUDY STUDY has been my mantra for the past couple months and it has been inspirational to see people succeeding with the theory but most of all it is awesome to know that what I am learning now will actually consistently work.
Like George I hate losing a trade and have always known there must be way to get this right on a consistent basis, and like many of you have had a good system and results which where then capped by a loss leading to the cycle of doom we all know about, trying to filter out bad trades and applying new aspects to an already overcrowded strategy and chart, for me I was correct in analysis of price movements but entered too early and fell victim to the HUNT.
Thank you Amundo for creating this thread and allowing us to post here and thanks to all the members who have done so it helps us to collectively learn from each other as stated before this can be a lonely game sometimes.
I have attached a chart I thought I should share of some of my studying about how the MM uses price to form herd conditioning and validation on TF's which forms herds inside bigger herds or traps within larger traps targeting higher TF traders and what I think George means by the fractal nature of the market. It is all on the 1HR chart but that is because there is not enough chart space to detail what is going on if displayed on the M15. Forgive my simple mind trying to express these theories hahaha.
YES this is only 8 days of mental corruption but oh how much information is displayed by the PA and partly the reason why I think George couldn't type all the lengthily explanations of what the MM does and why it would have been easier to just have a conversation about it all. It is AMAZING how the MM does this and how each move is highly calculated/planned (with ulterior motives behind it) and has a relationship to a previous swing and used in conjunction with other swings to form the validations and prepare targets. The foresight the MM must have and how everything is linked together is incredible!!!
Looking at this broken down on the M15 will show the smaller herds/traps that lead into the formation of the overall price action you see on the 1HR, and even going down to M5 you will see even more of this action forming the overall PA.....IT IS EVERYWHERE!!
The grey boxes are for demonstration of how many pips the MM moved the market to take out the 1HR chart traders and some are smaller as they would have been M15 or lower chart traders using smaller stops as their visual interpretation of PA they have trained themselves to see as a certain setup and risk management come into play once they entered their trades.
I did the notes on the chart for myself to better see the explanations without gong back and forth from text to the image, as you can see there is alot more at work here then the theories we have all been taught over the years and honestly a sad awakening to the fact that I have been barking up the wrong trees for the past couple years.
I know it is all after the fact analysis but it helped me link certain parts of the theory together. I hope the text is easy enough to read as it was done with the text label, I am aware there may be some spelling mistakes and that it s a bit repetitive but that is how it plays out over and over and it was done for myself.
Please excuse the long post guys and all the color but in the spirit of the master I had to share!!
I will remove it if you would like me to do so Amundo as I don't want to hamper your thread but I only have 24Hr to do so...
I would like to ask @FXstate if you could be so kind as to share the drawing tool you used to draw those lines as straightening my trendlines has become a pet peeve for me haha.
Lastly, I AM STILL LEARNING so if you guys feel I have missed something it would be great to get some feedback, after all that is why we are all here right?
Hope everyone has a great day or night, depending where everyone is from!!
THE JOURNEY CONTINUES
Cheers.
Codie.
Great to see you guys still working with each other and achieving a better understanding of what George so kindly and selflessly gave to us.
I was saddened to see the thread frozen, as it was a great experience interacting with other traders and being part of the family. In no way shape or form do I hold that against George as I can only imagine the amount of traders that must have hounded him about his theories and all the lazy ones who wanted a quick fix from him.
I feel I might have missed the biggest opportunity by not having a Skype chat with him as I felt I was not ready to approach him at the time (even if that would have meant I walked away with my head in my hands by realizing how much I did not know). Like many have been there from the start of the thread but felt I had to put work in before I even thought of speaking to the master himself but by then I was too late, because there is a tendency for me to over analyze and maybe over complicate things.
HOWEVER he left us with all the inspiration and knowledge that is required to succeed in this game as well as a sense of community that has even carried over to this thread which made the journey alot more interesting.
STUDY STUDY STUDY has been my mantra for the past couple months and it has been inspirational to see people succeeding with the theory but most of all it is awesome to know that what I am learning now will actually consistently work.
Like George I hate losing a trade and have always known there must be way to get this right on a consistent basis, and like many of you have had a good system and results which where then capped by a loss leading to the cycle of doom we all know about, trying to filter out bad trades and applying new aspects to an already overcrowded strategy and chart, for me I was correct in analysis of price movements but entered too early and fell victim to the HUNT.
Thank you Amundo for creating this thread and allowing us to post here and thanks to all the members who have done so it helps us to collectively learn from each other as stated before this can be a lonely game sometimes.
I have attached a chart I thought I should share of some of my studying about how the MM uses price to form herd conditioning and validation on TF's which forms herds inside bigger herds or traps within larger traps targeting higher TF traders and what I think George means by the fractal nature of the market. It is all on the 1HR chart but that is because there is not enough chart space to detail what is going on if displayed on the M15. Forgive my simple mind trying to express these theories hahaha.
YES this is only 8 days of mental corruption but oh how much information is displayed by the PA and partly the reason why I think George couldn't type all the lengthily explanations of what the MM does and why it would have been easier to just have a conversation about it all. It is AMAZING how the MM does this and how each move is highly calculated/planned (with ulterior motives behind it) and has a relationship to a previous swing and used in conjunction with other swings to form the validations and prepare targets. The foresight the MM must have and how everything is linked together is incredible!!!
Looking at this broken down on the M15 will show the smaller herds/traps that lead into the formation of the overall price action you see on the 1HR, and even going down to M5 you will see even more of this action forming the overall PA.....IT IS EVERYWHERE!!
The grey boxes are for demonstration of how many pips the MM moved the market to take out the 1HR chart traders and some are smaller as they would have been M15 or lower chart traders using smaller stops as their visual interpretation of PA they have trained themselves to see as a certain setup and risk management come into play once they entered their trades.
I did the notes on the chart for myself to better see the explanations without gong back and forth from text to the image, as you can see there is alot more at work here then the theories we have all been taught over the years and honestly a sad awakening to the fact that I have been barking up the wrong trees for the past couple years.
I know it is all after the fact analysis but it helped me link certain parts of the theory together. I hope the text is easy enough to read as it was done with the text label, I am aware there may be some spelling mistakes and that it s a bit repetitive but that is how it plays out over and over and it was done for myself.
Please excuse the long post guys and all the color but in the spirit of the master I had to share!!
I will remove it if you would like me to do so Amundo as I don't want to hamper your thread but I only have 24Hr to do so...
I would like to ask @FXstate if you could be so kind as to share the drawing tool you used to draw those lines as straightening my trendlines has become a pet peeve for me haha.
Lastly, I AM STILL LEARNING so if you guys feel I have missed something it would be great to get some feedback, after all that is why we are all here right?
Hope everyone has a great day or night, depending where everyone is from!!
THE JOURNEY CONTINUES
Cheers.
Codie.
"Discipline Is The Bridge Between Goals And Accomplishment" *Jim Rohn*
Codie - gonna take a bit to get through that...that is a real BIG WALL OF TEXT! Good post by profitfarmer on Anthony's journal - sage advice: https://www.forexfactory.com/showthr...7#post12237687
Thank you once again for allowing us to post here.
Apologies for that monstrous wall of text hahaha but as stated in my reply to @NewSim it was alot even for me but felt it was necessary for my understanding, and there is quite a bit going on within that PA thus all the commentating and trying to break it down and map it out. I guess I have a tendency to go overboard...
I hope it can help some of the members.
THE JOURNEY CONTINUES
Cheers.
Codie.
"Discipline Is The Bridge Between Goals And Accomplishment" *Jim Rohn*
[quote=NewSim;12238906]{quote} While I don't see the market in the same way as your guru (i.e as a 100% manipulated by one party) I think focusing on every tiny little detail may not be helpful in forming a good picture of what you think will happen next, whether it's manipulation or not. If you want to see what the average goober sees and try to think of how the market could move to exploit that then you only need to look for the obvious areas of stops, obvious patterns that everyone knows about on higher timeframes etc.
Hi NewSim.
Thank you for the suggestions it is much appreciated, still working on the overall theory so please dont take what I said as to be done by a professional haha...I can totally understand what you are saying and I do realize that I went a bit overboard with what I did on the chart and probably applied too much focus on the smaller movements, indeed it was in hindsight.
What you are saying does coincide with what George said about focusing on higher TF targets/obvious areas of stops such as the M15, H1 and H4 and slowly I am getting there. Its not that I think every swing high or low is the bad guy taking stops out haha I was trying to drill the theory into my head as the repetition helps me recognize the patterns that are formed to create the "herd mentality" which leads to the obvious areas of stops signifying their possible target - with importance placed on the higher TF's "herds" or obvious areas of stops as you have stated.
I agree with your statement about finding a way to identify a clear "herd mentality" and finding a setup that works systematically which I am working hard piecing together from the original thread which is coming along rather nicely using some of the filters George suggested.
Lastly much respect to you and the passion you must have for this business and thank you once again for the suggestions and kind words I hope we can continue to learn from each other on this thread.
All the best
.
Codie.
Hi NewSim.
Thank you for the suggestions it is much appreciated, still working on the overall theory so please dont take what I said as to be done by a professional haha...I can totally understand what you are saying and I do realize that I went a bit overboard with what I did on the chart and probably applied too much focus on the smaller movements, indeed it was in hindsight.
What you are saying does coincide with what George said about focusing on higher TF targets/obvious areas of stops such as the M15, H1 and H4 and slowly I am getting there. Its not that I think every swing high or low is the bad guy taking stops out haha I was trying to drill the theory into my head as the repetition helps me recognize the patterns that are formed to create the "herd mentality" which leads to the obvious areas of stops signifying their possible target - with importance placed on the higher TF's "herds" or obvious areas of stops as you have stated.
I agree with your statement about finding a way to identify a clear "herd mentality" and finding a setup that works systematically which I am working hard piecing together from the original thread which is coming along rather nicely using some of the filters George suggested.
Lastly much respect to you and the passion you must have for this business and thank you once again for the suggestions and kind words I hope we can continue to learn from each other on this thread.
All the best
.Codie.
"Discipline Is The Bridge Between Goals And Accomplishment" *Jim Rohn*