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  • #4,081
  • Apr 17, 2019 6:50pm Apr 17, 2019 6:50pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} For me with the Cycle TS (and Swings in general) with Add-ons Marty I believe it's best to collect profits on a regular basis if possible and reset the Add-on counters, whether you use EL or TP does not matter. If you let the setup run for too long you are in danger of accumulating a number of pairs maxing out their Add-On counters, mostly going the same way, and then only small changes in prices make big moves into the Red or if your lucky Green. Once the large Addons start to go Red it takes a good market move to bring the whole thing...
Thanks for the feedback and wise thoughts, certainly seems to again boil down to law of averages and how often we can get that 1000 pips or $100 or more using 0.01 lot with equal risk in cycle trader by securing regular takes.

But also I wonder how different this model is to targeting the 100 pips from our recent HAS combinations using 0.1 lot. Think I will need to recap our previous results on DD EQ ratios to answer own question.

I do however think regardless of our outcomes in coming days the speed with which cycle trader can accumulate profits (or losses) puts this TS in a league of its own.

Looking forward to converting the joint efforts into some real $$$ for everyone and soon
  • #4,082
  • Apr 17, 2019 6:56pm Apr 17, 2019 6:56pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Nice job, good idea to target particular Groups, rather than the whole market. GBP group is a good volatile grouping.
Using 28 pairs and my computer slows drastically. Maybe windows 10 problem. any suggestions. I am acking in computer skills and knowledge.
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.41GHz
Ram 16 GB
64-Bit operating systyem, x64-based processor
Using Windows 10 Home Version 1809
OS build 17763.437

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Closed setups and setting up V9 S9 cycletrader v2
Earle
  • #4,083
  • Apr 17, 2019 7:03pm Apr 17, 2019 7:03pm
Quoting Earle
{quote} Using 28 pairs and my computer slows drastically. Maybe windows 10 problem. any suggestions. I am acking in computer skills and knowledge. Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.41GHz Ram 16 GB 64-Bit operating systyem, x64-based processor Using Windows 10 Home Version 1809 OS build 17763.437 {image} Closed setups and setting up V9 S9 cycletrader v2
Hi, I also noticed that when there were a lot of trades open the Dashboard slowed right down with updating. I opened the trade window and that was updating fine so it seemed to be the DB that was quite slow to update when there were quite a few trades open and the market was moving around a decent amount.

Matt.
  • #4,084
  • Apr 17, 2019 7:13pm Apr 17, 2019 7:13pm
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Sorry is that Basket Trader TS or Cycle TS you are using?
That's the new Cycle Ts - still on v1 as I am not using addons
  • #4,085
  • Apr 17, 2019 7:19pm Apr 17, 2019 7:19pm
Testing the S9 Cycle Trader v1 at default settings

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So far so good.
  • #4,086
  • Edited Apr 18, 2019 3:55pm Apr 17, 2019 7:35pm | Edited Apr 18, 2019 3:55pm
Hi Eugene,

First off, Great work on the Cycle Trader!!

Looking at the way some of these systems seem to be trading, would be be possible to put in a negative number for the for the Equity Lock setting?

The reason I ask is this: When the system starts trading and depending on your Lot Size and Add-ons etc you could set the ETarget 1 to say $100 with the ELock 1 to say -$400.00. That would give you a $500 buffer to start with. You could also use the EStop Loss at $500 to as that would look after trades from 0 up to $100 then the EL1 would kick in. This would still give you the $500 buffer but it is trailing. It would then trail until you reach your next EL target (if you set one) where if you wanted you could jump the buffer down to say $250.00. ETarget 2 would be set to say $200 and ELock 2 to -50. This would then trail till your next target where you might want to start locking in some profit. You could set ETarget 3 to say 350 and ELock 3 to say 100 to keep the $250 buffer or close it up further. Once your ELock is in the positive settings then it runs just the same as normal and you can set the distance as you normally would.

You can tune the above settings to suit your trading style and what you are trying to achieve from the system as I'm sure many people are happy with a certain number of pips or $ for the day and then reset and start again or start the next day. Essentially you have a trailing SL once the system goes into profit then you have a trailing SL that can reduce your or DD should it change direction and go back into DD or like yesterday it recovered only to go pretty much straight back into DD.

My theory around this is when you are using Add-on's (and Marty) over time your exposure to the market increases greatly so the risk of large DD if the market turns increases as more add-on trades are added. Personally when this happens I would be more than happy to cut my losses or even a small profit and then start again and let it look for better setups and more importantly it then closes the large number of open trades and hence exposure. My pics posted above demonstrate this perfectly (apart from the going back into DD) and there was 70+ and 90+ trades in play!

Fingers crossed this wouldn't be a major or that the way the EL works can accept a negitive input. I have tested it and the EL wont turn on if there is a negative number in there.

Hope that makes sense and look forward to your feedback.

Thanks, Matt.
  • #4,087
  • Apr 17, 2019 11:08pm Apr 17, 2019 11:08pm
Quoting Earle
{quote} Using 28 pairs and my computer slows drastically. Maybe windows 10 problem. any suggestions. I am acking in computer skills and knowledge. Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700 CPU @ 3.40 GHz 3.41GHz Ram 16 GB 64-Bit operating systyem, x64-based processor Using Windows 10 Home Version 1809 OS build 17763.437 {image} Closed setups and setting up V9 S9 cycletrader v2
Could be Windows 10, from my experience MT4 does not work well on Win 10, it's better on Win7 and seems OK on Win8. I use a dedicated Windows 7 box older i7 cpu (4790), I can run at least 8 MT4 terminals on that without difficulty. Also the MT4 terminal will start to use more resources with lot's of open trades to manage.
  • #4,088
  • Apr 17, 2019 11:32pm Apr 17, 2019 11:32pm
Quoting Jstan
Testing the S9 Cycle Trader v1 at default settings {image} {image} So far so good.
If you are using v1 get v2, v1 has major Add-on bug.
  • #4,089
  • Edited 4:12am Apr 18, 2019 2:28am | Edited 4:12am
Because of Easter Weekend, I'm closing my Large DD trades down as near as Break Even that I can, here is the 1st one and it's week's P/L report:

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So 1400pips for the week which is great for one week. No Basket SL was used, my DB screen was accidentally reset so the DB will not look correct, but the weeks max DD was 656 pips.

Update: My other Cyclops setups closed for the Weekend with Profit set to just 250pips today

Cycle (3,0) with Add-ons max DD 2660 pips, total Profit for week 7820 pips

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Cycle (4,0) with add-ons max DD 2910 pips, total Profit for week 9570 pips

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  • #4,090
  • Apr 18, 2019 4:28am Apr 18, 2019 4:28am
A couple more closed setups for Basket Trader TS:

SWGex(2,2,48) forced closure to BE, but still decent profit at 380 pips with max DD 600 pips

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HASe(2,3,3,2)+SWGex(7,2,48)+Addons, forced to close, profit 200 pips, but max DD was 560 pips

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SEMex(3,2)+SWGex(3,2,48)+Addons, forced BE closure, profit 240 pips, max DD 640 pips

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That's it until after Easter.
  • #4,091
  • Apr 18, 2019 5:43am Apr 18, 2019 5:43am
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} Could be Windows 10, from my experience MT4 does not work well on Win 10, it's better on Win7 and seems OK on Win8. I use a dedicated Windows 7 box older i7 cpu (4790), I can run at least 8 MT4 terminals on that without difficulty. Also the MT4 terminal will start to use more resources with lot's of open trades to manage.
Thanks JU. Can we still buy win 7 or 8?
Earle
  • #4,092
  • Apr 18, 2019 6:01am Apr 18, 2019 6:01am
Question for Seller9

Left screen. TW Demo

Add to Trade 5. Marty

Question: GBPJPY Addons - Time and grouping,

Is this the way they work?

Thanks in advance

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Earle
  • #4,093
  • Apr 18, 2019 6:24am Apr 18, 2019 6:24am
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} If you are using v1 get v2, v1 has major Add-on bug.
Hi JustUncleL,

Thanks for the advise. I just installed the v2.0 and it opened 2 trades simultaneously using Marty.
Is this version stable already per your testing?

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  • #4,094
  • Edited 7:26am Apr 18, 2019 7:06am | Edited 7:26am
Quoting Jstan
{quote} Hi JustUncleL, Thanks for the advise. I just installed the v2.0 and it opened 2 trades simultaneously using Marty. Is this version stable already per your testing? {image}
It looked quite stable in my testing across three terminal setups. Also I cannot see your screenshot properly not enough resolution so I cannot comment on what your getting, I advise getting a decent screenshot app like "GreenShot" so you can capture full resolution from the screen to a "png" type file.

PS: This maybe the same issue that Earle was describing in post just before yours.
  • #4,095
  • Apr 18, 2019 7:25am Apr 18, 2019 7:25am
Quoting Earle
Question for Seller9 Left screen. TW Demo Add to Trade 5. Marty Question: GBPJPY Addons - Time and grouping, Is this the way they work? Thanks in advance {image}
Yes that does look a bit strange, a Add-to straight after open trade and then 0.2 trade after 5 trades already, could be something to do with the HM filter interaction with Add-ons. That sort thing was not obvious in my testing although it is harder to see with All 28 pairs trading.
  • #4,096
  • Apr 18, 2019 7:34am Apr 18, 2019 7:34am
Quoting Earle
{quote} Thanks JU. Can we still buy win 7 or 8?
You can buy licences on ebay, for me though been an older computer (Dell 9020 SFF) the licence is built-in to the computer bios, so when I installed Win7 onto my hard drive (erasing Win10) it did not ask for a licence.
  • #4,097
  • Apr 18, 2019 7:53am Apr 18, 2019 7:53am
i started a new one last night (before LO) so i can use both DB v9 and CT v2.
with selected pairs only.

its in red right now.
we'll see if it will recover during US session.
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When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #4,098
  • Apr 18, 2019 7:57am Apr 18, 2019 7:57am
Quoting Jstan
{quote} Hi JustUncleL, Thanks for the advise. I just installed the v2.0 and it opened 2 trades simultaneously using Marty. Is this version stable already per your testing? {image}
Jstan,

When taking a screenshot, try: File> Save as Picture> Active chart (as is) and uncheck 'Post image online in MQL5 blah blah'.
So we can see your picture more beautifuller
When the internal struggle ends, everything becomes easy - Mr. Douglas
  • #4,099
  • Apr 18, 2019 8:33am Apr 18, 2019 8:33am
Quoting JustUncleL
{quote} It looked quite stable in my testing across three terminal setups. Also I cannot see your screenshot properly not enough resolution so I cannot comment on what your getting, I advise getting a decent screenshot app like "GreenShot" so you can capture full resolution from the screen to a "png" type file. PS: This maybe the same issue that Earle was describing in post just before yours.
Here is the screenshot of trades that were triggered. Note the almost simultaneous trades for pairs such as audnzd, euraud, gbpjpy,gbpusd,nzdcad,nzdjpy

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  • #4,100
  • Apr 18, 2019 8:34am Apr 18, 2019 8:34am
Quoting lananpips
{quote} Jstan, When taking a screenshot, try: File> Save as Picture> Active chart (as is) and uncheck 'Post image online in MQL5 blah blah'. So we can see your picture more beautifuller
Hi lananpips, thanks for the advise. was able to do it.
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