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  • #301
  • Mar 28, 2019 12:39pm Mar 28, 2019 12:39pm
Quoting Divergence
yikes brain freeze
That is why I am "staying in my lane"... I cannot believe I am the only one to think this way around the market. There's got to be someone already walked this path before me. Anyone out here?????????????????????????????? Come on out from your hiding and let's crack this market principle!
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  • #302
  • Mar 28, 2019 12:44pm Mar 28, 2019 12:44pm
Quoting FXsniper111
I have a question VEE if you can help me i have a triel period with motivewave and last 2 days i scalped 2-5 ticks pr trade with sl of 10 ticks on sim and made 1225 of a 5k account and 725 today alone,but i had a whole bounch of trades so before pursuing this further what is the commision of say 2 ticks ore 10 dollars is it worth while??? EDIT:And yes i am with AMP. EDIT:And yes was on Nasdaq {image}
Safe to include 1T per contract per Trade towards trading costs.... so 10 trades x 2 contract = 20 T that you should deduct from your daily PnL. I am not sure if Motive allows you to configure this trading cost in the platform to automatically deduct. Be careful and keep track because if you don't, your live daily statement will have some surprises. My trading volume was 170 contracts / day scalping few ticks here and there... not sustainable in the long run because of slippage and fills. Always shoot for atleast 5 T TP would be my advice.

Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Safe to include 1T per contract per Trade towards trading costs.... so 10 trades x 2 contract = 20 T that you should deduct from your daily PnL. I am not sure if Motive allows you to configure this trading cost in the platform to automatically deduct. Be careful and keep track because if you don't, your live daily statement will have some surprises. My trading volume was 170 contracts / day scalping few ticks here and there... not sustainable in the long run because of slippage and fills. Always shoot for atleast 5 T TP would be my advice....
Also, I prefer to sent my demo account balance to what I can afford in live. I suggest starting with $2K and then scale up
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  • #303
  • Mar 28, 2019 12:52pm Mar 28, 2019 12:52pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Safe to include 1T per contract per Trade towards trading costs.... so 10 trades x 2 contract = 20 T that you should deduct from your daily PnL. I am not sure if Motive allows you to configure this trading cost in the platform to automatically deduct. Be careful and keep track because if you don't, your live daily statement will have some surprises. My trading volume was 170 contracts / day scalping few ticks here and there... not sustainable in the long run because of slippage and fills. Always shoot for atleast 5 T TP would be my advice....
Ok so basicly its 5 dollars pr contract pr trade give and take,but then even with 2 ticks you still make 5 dollars then.I am just getting familuar with the platform myself so i have not found out how to put in commisions on sim yet and its last day today of 14 days.Its truly amazing platform,but expencive 995 dollars for lifetime licence and 75 dollars a month lease of pro version even have ultimate thats more than that also,but if i am to transfer i will surely go for it even sierra are free,,Its another game i think atleast.Ok thank you for ansver i tried AMP chat,but its ages to get respond.And i started with only 5 k to yes have simular to live start account,but would be the same on 2k as 5 k because i had very limited DD with 10 tick stoploss,and only traded 1 contract
Insanityoing same ting over expecting different results..Einstein
  • #304
  • Mar 28, 2019 12:52pm Mar 28, 2019 12:52pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} That is why I am "staying in my lane"... I cannot believe I am the only one to think this way around the market. There's got to be someone already walked this path before me. Anyone out here?????????????????????????????? Come on out from your hiding and let's crack this market principle!
you remind me of twoblink. smart guy, but i get annoyed reading his posts

he's gone now. either super rich or super broke..nobody just quits...
  • #305
  • Mar 28, 2019 12:55pm Mar 28, 2019 12:55pm
Quoting hilmy83
{quote} you remind me of twoblink. smart guy, but i get annoyed reading his posts he's gone now. either super rich or super broke..nobody just quits...
Dude... I had mentioned at the very beginning that I am dedicating this thread to TwoBlink. He is (or was?) solid in math and analytics. Probably broke lol
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  • #306
  • Mar 28, 2019 1:03pm Mar 28, 2019 1:03pm
Any suggestions for an industrial/military grade encryption USB or Cloud storage? Part of my 2019 resolution is to go completely digital by year-end and de-clutter my life and record-keeping. I have yet to print a single page this year and soon I am going TurboTax cloud instead of buying CDs. Time has come to embrace cloud.

I find this solution interesting from https://www.apricorn.com/
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  • #307
  • Mar 28, 2019 1:07pm Mar 28, 2019 1:07pm
Vee, once you launch the super duper OC; don't forget your friends at FF.
  • #308
  • Mar 28, 2019 1:15pm Mar 28, 2019 1:15pm
Quoting alphadude
Vee, once you launch the super duper OC; don't forget your friends at FF.
Crap. I just failed in this journey. ALL OC are exactly the same. There is no one OC better than the next ... At least in principle and in theory. What varies is the potential outcome of profit taking or losses. The risk and reward quotient is almost always the same across ALL OCs. This is true regardless of market condition or trading style or strategy or collection of strategies deployed. It is the MARKET CONSTANT GUYS!!!

Quoting VEEFX
{quote} Crap. I just failed in this journey. ALL OC are exactly the same. There is no one OC better than the next ... At least in principle and in theory. What varies is the potential outcome of profit taking or losses. The risk and reward quotient is almost always the same across ALL OCs. This is true regardless of market condition or trading style or strategy or collection of strategies deployed. It is the MARKET CONSTANT GUYS!!!
A circle inside a circle is always going to have the same characteristics. A square inside a square is always going to have the same characteristics. A OC within an OC will always have the same characteristics. A fractal within a fractal will always have the same characteristics. OCs are fractal signatures (like Mandlebrot's image discovered during his tenure at IBM) . OCs are the constant found EVERYWHERE around us in every walk of life and in markets, strategies, structures everywhere !!!
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  • #309
  • Mar 28, 2019 1:50pm Mar 28, 2019 1:50pm
the key word there is structure 123 2b hint hint
  • #310
  • Mar 28, 2019 6:48pm Mar 28, 2019 6:48pm
YIKES!!!!! I discovered a classic flaw in my model. I am embarrassed to even mention it. I should know this by now. CRAP CRAP CRAP. At times, I feel like I am a 2-yr old kid chasing a ball across the street without stopping and looking left or right. Terrible but it also has benefits

All this talk about opportunity and a fundamental element (common sense really) was overlooked at the very beginning on the design.... .I know how to address it but that will make me scratch out my entire test results till date. I have decided not to touch it for now as results are showing some favorable these past couple of days.

Running the same model against 512 volume per bar (earlier was 512 Trades per bar). 512V takes the equity to over 3154T in January alone. Once I address the flaw in my design, max opportunity within an OC is going to be possible when run in DFM and RTM combination mode... exploiting TRENDS and Rangebound. I am guesstimating about 2.5 times the OC Range and over 3 times the current trade volume.
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  • #311
  • Mar 28, 2019 6:56pm Mar 28, 2019 6:56pm
Reminder to self until my return : X Multiple of OC cannot be the same value during trending and ranging markets. That's just stupid. Why would I want to limit growth during strong trending days and why would I want to target astronomical multiple during rangebound days? I needs to be REVERSED i.e. unique multiple for trending and unique multiple of ranging. Current design using only one setting to make it market agnostic. This presents a unique challenge of trying to identify the two market conditions. I addressed this by running all strategies in brute force making the model market condition agnostic. Brute force works well to traversal from Coast line to inland routes avoiding bumps and potholes because I am using only ONE position open at a time so this design absorbs shocks BUT it also limits the potential. This research is all about exploiting the MAX potential opportunity with no regard to drawdown or running trade in 100s of Ticks in loss got to run....
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  • #312
  • Mar 28, 2019 7:27pm Mar 28, 2019 7:27pm
Quoting VEEFX
{quote} That is why I am "staying in my lane"... I cannot believe I am the only one to think this way around the market. There's got to be someone already walked this path before me. Anyone out here?????????????????????????????? Come on out from your hiding and let's crack this market principle!
The Predictors

https://openlibrary.org/works/OL1969798W/The_Predictors
  • #313
  • Mar 28, 2019 7:37pm Mar 28, 2019 7:37pm
Quoting VEEFX
Reminder to self until my return : X Multiple of OC cannot be the same value during trending and ranging markets. That's just stupid. Why would I want to limit growth during strong trending days and why would I want to target astronomical multiple during rangebound days? I needs to be REVERSED i.e. unique multiple for trending and unique multiple of ranging. Current design using only one setting to make it market agnostic. This presents a unique challenge of trying to identify the two market conditions. I addressed this by running all strategies...
Thinking further I know what transpired. It's not really a flaw or an oversight. If anyone recalls, first few days of starting this thread, I had posted a research item related to "How to catch a trend from the start and exit a trend at the end" using the OC principle. That goal was met by using trailing TP study during g the first 2 hours of NY session. Then we progressed the traversals from coast to inland then came the Max potential opportunity principle. Max O is a completely different model in itself which will conflict with the first principle as I am always trying to jump off via trailing TP before the glass ceiling breaks. With the MaxO, model, I want to contineously break the glass ceiling until there is no ceiling left and then Trapell down the range and drive inland. Completely different methodology applies. Certainly doable as an all-in-one solution within the context of "market (or any OC) is Universal and Neutral" principle. But I am one Good Damn 50+ old dude counting my last decade to spend travelling around the world. I have no desire to win a Nobel Price so fuck this shit. I think I have enough work done by far than most could dream of encountering in a life time. Knowing this, I can relax a little and not beat myself too much. Time is my currency. Effort is my currency. Time and Effort is all that matters to me moving forward. I am sure my mind will never want to give up wearing a market researcher hat :-)
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  • #314
  • Mar 28, 2019 7:45pm Mar 28, 2019 7:45pm
Quoting CARP.BLUFFS
{quote} The Predictors https://openlibrary.org/works/OL1969798W/The_Predictors
Thanks. I don't read much by choice so no idea who these dudes are. It's amazing to me how quickly the online world has expanded. Having not much access to books or library into my teens and nowadays, I can look up anything I want with just one click . Amazing! I feel 25 again wanting to learn so much from what's left in my life :-)
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  • #315
  • Mar 28, 2019 9:19pm Mar 28, 2019 9:19pm
Quoting VEEFX
YIKES!!!!! I discovered a classic flaw in my model. I am embarrassed to even mention it. I should know this by now. CRAP CRAP CRAP. At times, I feel like I am a 2-yr old kid chasing a ball across the street without stopping and looking left or right. Terrible but it also has benefits All this talk about opportunity and a fundamental element (common sense really) was overlooked at the very beginning on the design.... .I know how to address it but that will make me scratch out my entire test results till date. I have decided not to touch it for now...
Hi Veefx, good to see your still at it. Despite your issues you keep trying that must be admired. Great to see you realised currency isn’t the way . Good luck.
  • #316
  • Mar 28, 2019 9:37pm Mar 28, 2019 9:37pm
Quoting CARP.BLUFFS
{quote} The Predictors https://openlibrary.org/works/OL1969798W/The_Predictors
BTW: looking at the title of the book... I am not attempting to predict anything. I am also not looking at the past or using indicators that look at the past. Every decision is contained with the start and stop of OC (which for simplicity reasons for everyone to understand, I am sticking with NYSE open as starting point but OCStart can be anything you deem appropriate. it could be your first manual entry position to add positions or during news releases or any other sessions or instruments).

choosing tops/bottoms, market direction, putting SL in place where it won't hit, putting TP in place where it will hit, when to move SL to BE are all ACTIONS pertaining to prediction or anticipating. I do none of that in my automation as I have tried all kinds of models with SL/TP/BE and they have all failed in the long run (within the context of the strategies I have chosen to run)

EDIT: What I find absolutely fascinating about trading is... a slightest alternation to a strategy can have tremendous effects on the overall outcome. Many don't realize this aspect.... it is true even for manual trading. even a pip or tick difference has the potential of different outcome. This is the MAIN reason why consistency is so damn hard. One has to become a emotionless robot to deliver every day with precision.
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  • #317
  • Mar 28, 2019 9:46pm Mar 28, 2019 9:46pm
Some of you might think I am a retard thinking about only profits, being greedy, no SL is a joke blah blah. I reverse-engineer everything to rip things apart for my own understanding. This is the process I am highlighting since december for NQ. we must understand the unknowns even if they remain unknowns. beginning with curve fitting algo to one strategy at a time to adding 4 for TF and then introducing reversion and then adding more reversion.... in a structured and methodical manner. I was criticized for doing too much and not trading live etc etc. Hopefully, this journey reflects how I plan things well in advance before they happen.... this journey is constructed BEFORE I got into Futures. and I am only half-way done! I am not done boring your guys to death lol
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  • #318
  • Mar 28, 2019 11:03pm Mar 28, 2019 11:03pm
phew! Goal Met (well, sort of as I am using standard replay so not 100% accurate results)

Daily 10+T on 512T chart using both DFM and RTM strategies trading during NYSE session

only 3 losing days this year, 2 losing weeks, no losing month

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  • #319
  • Mar 30, 2019 12:38am Mar 30, 2019 12:38am
I have seen Sierra frequently crap like this in SIM mode. Why not in LIVE ???

LOL
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  • #320
  • Mar 30, 2019 2:55am Mar 30, 2019 2:55am
Here I am @ 2:45am just hours away from catching our flight...

Multiple Choice Question:

  1. Am I obsessed with NQ?
  2. Am I Possessed by NQ?
  3. Am I just OCD and can't stop this journey?
  4. All of the Above

Just a minor and silly tweak to HH/LL/LH/HL entry with Profit Target of 80% of OC (or NYSE Session Range for those who don't want to understand the power of OC)

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Standard Market Replay @ 1920 speed (not 100% accurate!)

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